Scott Frost's downfall

XtraXtra said:
"...didn’t really want to do it.". --Frost

That became more obvious with each year's sad results. NU was under great pressure to get Frost here as he was a former player and was the hottest coach out there at the time. Ended up not working out for anybody.

I don't think Frost is doing himself any favors in the coaching profession by dredging this stuff up.
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Seems like it is not much of an issue for him. He is the HC, again, at UCF and making millions and will retire in 5-10 years with millions.
 
Decked said:
Scott has nobody to blame but himself & himself alone in why he failed here. Dude has an ego the size of Texas
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Bingo!!!

If you didn't want the job, then don't take it. BUT....if you're going to take the job being paid millions...do the F'ing job well.

I honestly really haven't ever commented much on Scott because I just wanted to move on like any other coaching change and focus on what we have now. But, now.....FU Scott!!! I'll be rooting against UCF in every single game.

The guy definitely likes burning bridges.
 
PasstheDamnBallGuy said:
Did I miss where he said anything about where Frost was hungover?
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We could probably rent an excavator if you want to lower the bar further.

The point is, the problem wasn’t Frost taking the wrong job like he said. The problem was, he wasn’t up to the task. He wasn’t even close to doing the things a guy getting paid millions to coach should do. Was he hungover? Likely based on all of the stories but who knows. But it’s pretty much been confirmed he missed meetings, showed up late often etc. And the results sort of speak for themselves. Instead of saying he took the wrong job out of some sense of duty to his alma mater he should just stfu and realize he and he alone was the problem.
 
JJ Husker said:
We could probably rent an excavator if you want to lower the bar further.

The point is, the problem wasn’t Frost taking the wrong job like he said. The problem was, he wasn’t up to the task. He wasn’t even close to doing the things a guy getting paid millions to coach should do. Was he hungover? Likely based on all of the stories but who knows. But it’s pretty much been confirmed he missed meetings, showed up late often etc. And the results sort of speak for themselves. Instead of saying he took the wrong job out of some sense of duty to his alma mater he should just stfu and realize he and he alone was the problem.
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Ok but if you don't know that something is true don't add it on. You still can't even help yourself but say it's likely that he was hungover.
 
PasstheDamnBallGuy said:
Ok but if you don't know that something is true don't add it on. You still can't even help yourself but say it's likely that he was hungover.
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I think it is likely. 🤷‍♂️
And I also happen to think it’s one of the only possible excuses for a $5M per year head coach at a P5 school to be missing and late for meetings. But sure, it could just be that he was lazy instead of hungover. I guess it doesn’t matter to me what the reason was. He didn’t come close to getting the job done and that’s the bottom line.
 
I don't think lazy is the right diagnosis with Frost.

It seems clear to me that he was struggling with severe depression. The Frost that came into Lincoln and the Frost that left couldn't have been any different. I think things not going to plan (from the very beginning with a weird omen thunderstorm), followed by the intense pressure, followed by his dad passing, followed by things still not going to plan sent him into a depressive spiral he couldn't or wouldn't get out of. All the money in the world can't save you from spiraling into the despair in your own mind.

It's a shame that it doesn't seem like he's been able to process and reflect on that, which makes it all the more likely that it'll happen again. I hope he can figure it out for himself.
 
Lorewarn said:
I don't think lazy is the right diagnosis with Frost.

It seems clear to me that he was struggling with severe depression. The Frost that came into Lincoln and the Frost that left couldn't have been any different. I think things not going to plan (from the very beginning with a weird omen thunderstorm), followed by the intense pressure, followed by his dad passing, followed by things still not going to plan sent him into a depressive spiral he couldn't or wouldn't get out of. All the money in the world can't save you from spiraling into the despair in your own mind.

It's a shame that it doesn't seem like he's been able to process and reflect on that, which makes it all the more likely that it'll happen again. I hope he can figure it out for himself.
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I also think depression was highly likely. And that’s probably a better take than lazy. For sure his mind wasn’t in a good place the last year or two. Also why I don’t think drinking or being hungover is a big stretch. Where there’s that much smoke, there’s usually at least a bit of fire. I have no direct knowledge of what it was exactly but it wasn’t good and it definitely impacted the job he was doing. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem like he has it figured out yet based on his recent comments.
 
Lorewarn said:
I don't think lazy is the right diagnosis with Frost.

It seems clear to me that he was struggling with severe depression. The Frost that came into Lincoln and the Frost that left couldn't have been any different. I think things not going to plan (from the very beginning with a weird omen thunderstorm), followed by the intense pressure, followed by his dad passing, followed by things still not going to plan sent him into a depressive spiral he couldn't or wouldn't get out of. All the money in the world can't save you from spiraling into the despair in your own mind.

It's a shame that it doesn't seem like he's been able to process and reflect on that, which makes it all the more likely that it'll happen again. I hope he can figure it out for himself.
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I think this could have been the case. But, I think the depression/pressure greatly intensified every time he tried to do something fun and exciting in a game, it seemed to backfire. The big glaring one was the on side kick in Ireland. If it had worked, he had fun calling it and nobody is complaining about it. But...it didn't and he had to answer to that. Those types of situations just seemed to keep building which didn't allow him to have the "fun" he thought he could have.
 
Can reflect on all the things Scott did and said, but my concern is the success of Husker football and athletic dept. I hope the movers and shakers who convinced and supported Frost are less influential.
 
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