Serious List of New Head Coach

Born N Bled Red said:
If the belief is that he is getting paid for on-the-job training, then wouldn't it make sense for Nebraska to benefit from the results of that training? - Yeah man, I'm going to pay you a butt ton of money to learn how to do a job, and then just as you seem to be "getting it." I'm going to cut you loose so that someone else can benefit from all the training I paid for, and then I'm going to start training someone else and see if they "get it," just a bit quicker. Cool? 

Seems like a GREAT business model. 
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Well for starters, I am not sure Moos or anyone believed Frost would struggle as he has. Regarding Frost's potential future success, I am not sure we can continue to invest in him unless he starts producing results now.  When I said he could be successful down the road, that could be many years away and I don't think this program can afford to be strung along.  Thus, when looking at a new coach, I think prioritizing proven P5 experience should be the top criteria.

 
HuskerNation1 said:
I am not sure Moos or anyone believed Frost would struggle as he has.
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Nobody, anywhere, did. If you'd have told anyone across the country this is where we'd be four years in, they wouldn't have believed you.

He was considered a home run hire, and the prevailing thought was that Nebraska did well winning Frost from other teams. 

 
BigRedBuster said:
If Frost would leave and take one of those jobs only to have the same success he had at UCF, that would be a huge indictment of if anyone can be successful here.  Top coaches would start wondering can anyone recruit to Nebraska to be successful in a P5 conference and win the way fans expect.
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Idk, it would hardly be the first example of this. Some coaches have systems built for the group of 5 that they can't replicate at the P5. Sonny Dykes won at La Tech, Lost at Cal, winning at SMU. Taggert won at USF, Lost at FSU, Winning at FAU. Hoke won at Ball St, Lost at Michigan, Winning at SDSU. 

 
HuskerNation1 said:
Well for starters, I am not sure Moos or anyone believed Frost would struggle as he has. Regarding Frost's potential future success, I am not sure we can continue to invest in him unless he starts producing results now.  When I said he could be successful down the road, that could be many years away and I don't think this program can afford to be strung along.  Thus, when looking at a new coach, I think prioritizing proven P5 experience should be the top criteria.
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I could build a huge list of P5 guys who tanked at a new place after success at another. There just aren't many Sabans or Meyers out there. 

Lets start with Riley, Miles, Beliema, Anderson, etc.  

 
knapplc said:
Nobody, anywhere, did. If you'd have told anyone across the country this is where we'd be four years in, they wouldn't have believed you.

He was considered a home run hire, and the prevailing thought was that Nebraska did well winning Frost from other teams. 
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I fully agree. Our fan base was united when Frost was hired and nearly everyone thought he would be successful.  I think that is why there is so much division now related to Frost as it's hard for some to acknowledge he has not gotten the job done and therefore to admit being wrong. 

I know I was personally overjoyed when he was hired and I wanted him to succeed, and still do hope he can finish this season strong.  

 
FrantzHardySwag said:
Idk, it would hardly be the first example of this. Some coaches have systems built for the group of 5 that they can't replicate at the P5. Sonny Dykes won at La Tech, Lost at Cal, winning at SMU. Taggert won at USF, Lost at FSU, Winning at FAU. Hoke won at Ball St, Lost at Michigan, Winning at SDSU. 
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Yep. However my hunch is that it wouldnt be the same as what happened at UCF. Frost captured lightning in a bottle in year 2 at UCF. 

 
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Whenever I read the title, this pops into my head...I can't be the only one...

 
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HuskerNation1 said:
I fully agree. Our fan base was united when Frost was hired and nearly everyone thought he would be successful.  I think that is why there is so much division now related to Frost as it's hard for some to acknowledge he has not gotten the job done and therefore to admit being wrong. 

I know I was personally overjoyed when he was hired and I wanted him to succeed, and still do hope he can finish this season strong.  
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I was more excited for the Frost hire than any hire we have had in my life at NU. I thought we were bringing home a true offensive guru that could turn us around and take us back to battling for conference championships. I would have told you by year 2 I was expecting 8+ wins from NU and by year 4 and 5 to be flirting with 10+ wins and taking control of the West. Instead we find ourselves with .500 or less win percentages against all teams in the B1G West. 

 
Born N Bled Red said:
I could build a huge list of P5 guys who tanked at a new place after success at another. There just aren't many Sabans or Meyers out there. 

Lets start with Riley, Miles, Beliema, Anderson, etc.  
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Riley has always been a .500 coach, and he finished Nebraska at .500 so I don't think it's accurate to claim he "tanked" when coming to Nebraska. He performed up to expectations that were established over many years.

Les Miles did well at Okie State before MANY years of success at LSU.  I am not sure you can count 2 years at a dismal Kansas program to claim he was not successful.

Bielema did well at an established Wisconsin program and then had 3 winning seasons in 5 years at Arkansas which competed in arguably the toughest division in all of football.  If you feel 3 winning seasons in 5 years is tanking, then how would you describe zero winning seasons in 4 years which Frost is on track to do?

 
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Born N Bled Red said:
Some recognize the state of the team when he got here and the unforeseeable circumstances he's had to work through while trying to rebuild. 
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what unforeseeable circumstances had he had to work through that any other coach hasnt? How was the state of our team any different than another program who fired a coach after 3 years who sucked? 

 
Let me ask this, if the Huskers had completed their original, regular season last year, went 8-4 and went bowling and this season was going the same. Would we be having this same conversation? 





09/05


Purdue


@Rutgers


No fall season


 


 




09/12


Central Mich.


Illinois


No fall season


 


 




09/19


S. Dakota St.


Wis­con­sin


No fall season


 


 




09/26


Cincinnati


@Iowa


No fall season


 


 




10/03


@North­western


Minne­sota


No fall season


 


 




10/10


Illinois


@Ohio State


No fall season


 


 




10/17


IDLE


IDLE


 


 


 




10/24


@Rutgers


@North­western


No fall season


@Ohio State


@Ohio State




10/31


@Ohio State


Penn State


No fall season


Wis­con­sin


Canceled




11/07


Penn State


IDLE


 


@North­western


@North­western




11/14


@Iowa


@Purdue


No fall season


Penn State


Penn State




11/21


@Wis­con­sin


@Mich. St.


No fall season


Illinois


Illinois




11/27


Minne­sota


 


 


@Iowa


@Iowa




12/05


 


 


 


@Purdue


@Purdue




12/12


 


 


 


Minne­sota


Minne­sota




12/19


 


 


 


TBD


TBD




BOWL


TBD







We beat Penn St., Purdue, and Rutgers. 

Would have beat S. Dakota State, and Central Michigan. Easy to see at least one more win on that schedule. 

 
Hedley Lamarr said:
Yep. However my hunch is that it wouldnt be the same as what happened at UCF. Frost captured lightning in a bottle in year 2 at UCF. 
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Yep, he was gifted a roster with a few NFL guys. And hit an absolute home run at the QB spot. I think he could still build a dang good offense being able to recruit Florida again, and playing in a lesser league. The formula just hasn't worked in the B1G. 

 
Xmas32 said:
The best I've ever seen the NU offense for 4 quarters in the past decade was the 2014 Holiday Bowl against USC that Tim Beck called.  Beck was masterful that game.
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Yep. Tommy Armstrong came alive and the whole unit clicked in a hurry up offense they mastered in just weeks, against some of the top physical talent in the nation. The Husker D couldn't quite hold up its end of the bargain.

That was the first game Tim Beck got to draw up an offense without the oversight of Bo Pelini.

 
HuskerNation1 said:
I fully agree. Our fan base was united when Frost was hired and nearly everyone thought he would be successful.  I think that is why there is so much division now related to Frost as it's hard for some to acknowledge he has not gotten the job done and therefore to admit being wrong. 

I know I was personally overjoyed when he was hired and I wanted him to succeed, and still do hope he can finish this season strong.  
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I don't think there is one Husker fan that thinks he's gotten the job done.  It's the "yet" part that comes after that people disagree with.

 
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