**** The Official "O-linemaggedon" Thread ****
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mrandyk
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ladyhawke
All-Conference
I started another topic similar to this because I didn't see this one-sorry for the repeat-Knap you can take my original one off. Here is what I wrote:
Ok, lots of talk about the ineffectiveness of our current O-Line coach, but what would you consider the characteristics of an effective O-Line coach? Also, if our current O-Line coach gets the sack after this year, who would you consider the top choice to take his place? Would that person also get to choose who his assistants would be?
I don't think our O-Line has been effective for awhile. I know that our team has looked good at times but against lesser opponents. The other thing that bothers me is this: If an O-Line is effective that means that we should be able to have less 3 and out plays-right? Or is that all on the quarterback? My thinking is that if your O-Line is effective then you should be able to move the ball up the field more effectively.
Thanks!
Ok, lots of talk about the ineffectiveness of our current O-Line coach, but what would you consider the characteristics of an effective O-Line coach? Also, if our current O-Line coach gets the sack after this year, who would you consider the top choice to take his place? Would that person also get to choose who his assistants would be?
I don't think our O-Line has been effective for awhile. I know that our team has looked good at times but against lesser opponents. The other thing that bothers me is this: If an O-Line is effective that means that we should be able to have less 3 and out plays-right? Or is that all on the quarterback? My thinking is that if your O-Line is effective then you should be able to move the ball up the field more effectively.
Thanks!
I had a decent response going in the other thread before I realized it was locked, but here's basically what I said - as far as characteristics are concerned, it really comes down to knowledge of the game, how well you relay the knowledge, and your motivational skills. Some people are simply better than others.
The o-line has been very ineffective, and the evidence is in the stats and in the film. We have exceptional success against weaker opponents, and marginal success against better ones. The best team we beat last year was Michigan State, and we had 190 yards rushing with a 3.3 yards per rush average. While that may seem high to most other universities, it doesn't look nearly as good when you see we had only 80 yards passing, finishing the game with 270 total yards of offense. Although Michigan State is a good team, that kind of rushing performance is not good enough if that's what you're going to rely on, and a lot of these problems come down to the offensive line. Missed blocks, players not making correct pre-snap reads, confusion, bad technique, penalties etc., are all prevalent in our game film. It's not like we're making huge mistakes every single play, but it's enough mistakes to make you scratch your head.
Everything starts up front on both sides of the ball, and if you're not getting it done when it matters, which we often don't, that's the first place you have to look.
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'SkersRule
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Stumpy1
All-American
Iowa has had better lines then we have over the last 5-6 years. They have had 13 olinemen drafted since 2003 and 2 first rounders in back to back years (2010 and 2011)
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walksalone
Heisman Trophy Winner
Sipple has written a piece about the rise in Cotton scrutiny over the last few days.
Cotton's problems can go away if his line has a successful season. Until then, I think most of the criticisms directed his way are fair.
Is it just me or do you think he got the idea of his story from all of us?
http://journalstar.com/sports/columnists/sipple/steven-m-sipple-fair-or-not-scrutiny-on-cotton-intensifies/article_e8e6c603-8b0d-5dda-8525-adeb05c711c7.html
Cotton's problems can go away if his line has a successful season. Until then, I think most of the criticisms directed his way are fair.
Is it just me or do you think he got the idea of his story from all of us?
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walksalone
Heisman Trophy Winner
zoogs
Assistant Coach
The part in bold likely refers to what happened with Tyler Moore last season. I think there was an incident with a false start in the Wisconsin game - an issue which has plagued the OL well beyond Moore, and has been a big problem notably since Cotton took over - and Moore saw his playing time drop off since then.
Decked may also be getting at inconsistency in application of that, something da skers expanded on at one point recently, but I'll try to avoid embarrassing myself by attempting to recollect exactly what he said.
If the bolded part were even remotely true then Cotton would have to pull our entire offensive line. As individuals and as a unit, they make mistakes all the time. Although I'm critical of Cotton, few have stopped to think that maybe this kid has an attitude problem. Maybe there were things we weren't seeing on film or in the meeting room that caused Cotton to pull Moore. This is pure speculation on my part, of course, but I doubt anyone here really knows for sure. Cotton has a knack for pulling and rotating linemen, no doubt about that, but I seriously doubt he's a "one mistake and you're pulled" kind of guy. I think decked is exaggerating with that statement but even so, that entire post is extremely bold and very presumptuous given he knows as much as we do, which isn't a lot.
ADS
Heisman Trophy Winner
Yeah, he def read the entire Tyler Moore thread. He had a few laughs, a few tears and decided that his journalism career needs a lift only that thread could give it. But I ahve always imagined Steve was a poster on HB, but who would it be?
Knapp? No, Sipple isnt that smart.
Enhance? No, Ehance actually knows how to write.
EZ? No, once again too smart.
PaulCrewe? I highly doubt it.
Walksalone? I think we all know that answer.
Po? Once again we all know that answer.
Me? Hahahaha, no.
Nuance? Maybe...
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