The Oscar Boycott

[Landlord]

So when all the MVP's in the NBA are black, should white people boycott the NBA?

While there is no objective statistical way to prove this, because art is subject, implying that black people aren't getting nominated because they aren't as good of actors, directors, filmmakers, etc., is a pretty bad look.

There's plenty of black people that were worthy of oscar contention. Michael B. Jordan got a ton of critical praise for Creed, as well did the (black) director, yet Stallone is the only one to get a nomination. Straight Outta Compton, with a black main cast and director, only got nominations for the screenplay, coincidentally written by two white dudes. Will Smith in Concussion, Idris Elba in Beasts of No Nation, Tessa Thompson, Benicio Del Toro, Oscar Isaac and Samuel L Jackson are just a handful of minority actors that have gotten comparable level of praise for roles they did with no nominations.

Some of this is politics, some if it is campaigning/strategy, some of it is subjective taste, but two straight years with zero minorities of any kind when there are very clearly several great performances, should at least raise eyebrows. And since the Academy board voted unanimously to increase it's diversity, admitting it's own problem, it's weird that so many people still seem to think it's non-existent.

 

[StPaulHusker]

Just to add to this:

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Charlie Hunnam as La Barbie in "American Drug Lord". Who is gonna play El Chapo? Ben Affleck?
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— Maiah Ocando (@MaiahOcando)
https://twitter.com/MaiahOcando/status/691786299267751937January 26, 2016
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Charlie Hunnam is a very white, very British actor. He is being cast to play a drug kingpin of Mexican heritage.

 

[Mierin]

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Charlie Hunnam as La Barbie in "American Drug Lord". Who is gonna play El Chapo? Ben Affleck? https://t.co/0Yckucfxb6 Maiah Ocando (@MaiahOcando) January 26, 2016

Charlie Hunnam is a very white, very British actor. He is being cast to play a drug kingpin of Mexican heritage.

If this is him Hunnam actually looks a lot like him, heh. And without looking I wonder if he's called La Barbie because he looks caucasian. Edit: looked it up. " Valdez's nickname, La Barbie, came from his American football coach at United High School; because of his light skin, green eyes, and facial features, he was compared to a Ken doll,[13][14] but he had little hair."

There are definitely a lot of examples that are much worse though. Landlord already posted a bunch.

 

[B.B. Hemingway]

Most of my favorite actors are white....

 

[StPaulHusker]

The point is that they went after a white British dude for the role.

I mean, Netflix made an entire series about Pablo Escobar and had all sorts of Latino's cast in it. These execs couldn't find one more?

 

[Mierin]

The point is that they went after a white British dude for the role.

I mean, Netflix made an entire series about Pablo Escobar and had all sorts of Latino's cast in it. These execs couldn't find one more?

I edited the post. I understand the point but I don't think it applies well here. I have no problem with them picking a white actor for this guy. He was named La Barbie for looking like a Ken Doll. Probably much easier to find a caucasian man that actually looks like him to play this part. And do you know that they didn't try to find a Hispanic actor?

 

[RedSavage]

So when all the MVP's in the NBA are black, should white people boycott the NBA?

While there is no objective statistical way to prove this, because art is subject, implying that black people aren't getting nominated because they aren't as good of actors, directors, filmmakers, etc., is a pretty bad look.

There's plenty of black people that were worthy of oscar contention. Michael B. Jordan got a ton of critical praise for Creed, as well did the (black) director, yet Stallone is the only one to get a nomination. Straight Outta Compton, with a black main cast and director, only got nominations for the screenplay, coincidentally written by two white dudes. Will Smith in Concussion, Idris Elba in Beasts of No Nation, Tessa Thompson, Benicio Del Toro, Oscar Isaac and Samuel L Jackson are just a handful of minority actors that have gotten comparable level of praise for roles they did with no nominations.

Some of this is politics, some if it is campaigning/strategy, some of it is subjective taste, but two straight years with zero minorities of any kind when there are very clearly several great performances, should at least raise eyebrows. And since the Academy board voted unanimously to increase it's diversity, admitting it's own problem, it's weird that so many people still seem to think it's non-existent.

I won't disagree with any of that. I like many of those actors personally but haven't had time to see most of those movies so I can't comment on that. I think the lack of diversity should raise some eyebrows but nothing more at this point. If this continues to be the trend after this year, then you make a big deal about it (I know this has been an issue for awhile but years where it's predominately white are bound to happen). All the other worthy nominees were left out purely because of their skin color? If so, that's very sad but I'm not sure I buy that.

First of all, Spike lee is an idiot and nobody should listen to anything that comes out of that man's mouth. But to go with this same line of thinking, so when all the MVP's in the NBA are black, should white people boycott the NBA? Have the people who are boycotting this even stopped to think, maybe, just maybe, this has nothing to do with race and that better nominees this year just all happen to be white?

You are wrong on all of your sentences on so many levels.

If you listen to a bigot like Spike Lee, I have nothing more to say.

 

[StPaulHusker]

So when all the MVP's in the NBA are black, should white people boycott the NBA?

While there is no objective statistical way to prove this, because art is subject, implying that black people aren't getting nominated because they aren't as good of actors, directors, filmmakers, etc., is a pretty bad look.

There's plenty of black people that were worthy of oscar contention. Michael B. Jordan got a ton of critical praise for Creed, as well did the (black) director, yet Stallone is the only one to get a nomination. Straight Outta Compton, with a black main cast and director, only got nominations for the screenplay, coincidentally written by two white dudes. Will Smith in Concussion, Idris Elba in Beasts of No Nation, Tessa Thompson, Benicio Del Toro, Oscar Isaac and Samuel L Jackson are just a handful of minority actors that have gotten comparable level of praise for roles they did with no nominations.

Some of this is politics, some if it is campaigning/strategy, some of it is subjective taste, but two straight years with zero minorities of any kind when there are very clearly several great performances, should at least raise eyebrows. And since the Academy board voted unanimously to increase it's diversity, admitting it's own problem, it's weird that so many people still seem to think it's non-existent.

I won't disagree with any of that. I like many of those actors personally but haven't had time to see most of those movies so I can't comment on that. I think the lack of diversity should raise some eyebrows but nothing more at this point. If this continues to be the trend after this year, then you make a big deal about it (I know this has been an issue for awhile but years where it's predominately white are bound to happen). All the other worthy nominees were left out purely because of their skin color? If so, that's very sad but I'm not sure I buy that.

First of all, Spike lee is an idiot and nobody should listen to anything that comes out of that man's mouth. But to go with this same line of thinking, so when all the MVP's in the NBA are black, should white people boycott the NBA? Have the people who are boycotting this even stopped to think, maybe, just maybe, this has nothing to do with race and that better nominees this year just all happen to be white?

You are wrong on all of your sentences on so many levels.

If you listen to a bigot like Spike Lee, I have nothing more to say.

I listen to everyone. Just because I don't agree with one thing they have said doesn't mean I won't agree with them on the next thing.

It's close minded individuals that you portray yourself to be that hurts conversation and understanding.

 

[The Dude]

Wouldn't have hated seeing Ryan Coogler get a Best Director nomination for Creed. But let's not kid ourselves, that movie was carried by Stallone's stellar performance.

Saying Will Smith deserved a nomination is laughable at best. His nomination for The Pursuit of Happiness was well-deserved however. Methinks someone is just butthurt.

Robert De Niro was more deserving of a nomination than Will Smith.

People get snubbed all the time, and the Academy Awards has nothing to do with diversity. It's an awards show, not an exercise in diversity. I bet not very many Inuits have gotten awards.

 

[B.B. Hemingway]

Wouldn't have hated seeing Ryan Coogler get a Best Director nomination for Creed. But let's not kid ourselves, that movie was carried by Stallone's stellar performance.

Saying Will Smith deserved a nomination is laughable at best. His nomination for The Pursuit of Happiness was well-deserved however. Methinks someone is just butthurt.

Robert De Niro was more deserving of a nomination than Will Smith.

People get snubbed all the time, and the Academy Awards has nothing to do with diversity. It's an awards show, not an exercise in diversity. I bet not very many Inuits have gotten awards.

 

[Landlord]

People get snubbed all the time, and the Academy Awards has nothing to do with diversity. It's an awards show, not an exercise in diversity. I bet not very many Inuits have gotten awards.

How many Inuits never even get auditioned or cast because of Hollywood's propensity to whitewash characters

 

[JJ Husker]

A few things some of you might want to consider.

Hollywood and the entertainment industry is not some poster child for equal opportunity. Their purpose is to make money. Period. If they are going about it so wrongly, then somebody needs to step in and show them how to do it better. More POC, with more awards to show for it......how does that translate to making more money? Their job isn't to get a black person an Oscar.

And, for those of you saying there must be a problem because they are talking about fixing it, well, maybe it's as simple as the squeaky wheel gets the oil. That doesn't necessarily mean there is a problem. It just means there is a group complaining. When the percentages get out of whack, then come tell me about it. 10%, 12.5%, 13%. Those are the percentages the industry is supposed to cater to? bullsh#t. If they picked a white British guy to play a Latino drug lord, so what? It's their money, their movie, and their best guess at how to make the most money. If you don't think it's right, put your money where your mouth is and make your own damn movie. They don't owe anybody d!(k squat except for their investors.

If 12.5% of the awards is not enough, what do you propose that percentage should be and why? How can you say they are underrepresented?

The things people choose to get upset over.......

 

[Red Dead Redemption]

I've boycotted the Oscars ever since "Happy Feet" won Best Animated Film over "Cars"

That was a travesty of injustice of insurmountable magnitude.

 

[The Dude]

Just to add to this:

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Charlie Hunnam as La Barbie in "American Drug Lord". Who is gonna play El Chapo? Ben Affleck? https://t.co/0Yckucfxb6

Maiah Ocando (@MaiahOcando) January 26, 2016


Charlie Hunnam is a very white, very British actor. He is being cast to play a drug kingpin of Mexican heritage.

That's just an incredibly stupid thing to whine about. The whole thing with actors is they're not playing themselves, they're portraying characters. It would be like whining because a non-transgender actor played a transgender character. Sure there's transgender actors out there, but if Walton Goggins is a better actor he should get the part.
If you think casting directors are casting parts based on race over talent and/or potential profit, you're missing the whole point of these enterprises.

 

[Landlord]

If you think casting directors are casting parts based on race over talent and/or potentially profit, you're missing the whole point of these enterprises.

Plenty of time, casting directors cased based on race because it will generate more profit.