What Did We Learn - Bowl Edition

[Vince R.]

Invest heavily in the trenches on both sides and at LB. Start there and let the rest fill out however it may. We would win a lot more games.

 

[PaulCrewe]

So if he's beating all those Top 25 teams but not getting a lot of wins overall, he must be losing to more than his share of bad teams.

Campbell beat Rhule the first two years after Rhule took over a program coming off the closest thing to the death penalty. Doesn't seem like that much of an apples-to-apples comparision.

I was comparing Campbell's nine seasons at Iowa State to Rhule's three here. I never said anything about Rhule's wins at other places.

So since he can't beat Top 25 teams Rhule has only losing to good teams??? Got it. 66 wins in 10 years. 77 wins for campbell in the years Rhule was a college coach so pretty close to same amount of wins except when playing ranked teams

As fucked as the culture around Baylor football and BBall were with what some did, there was nothing remotely close to the death penalty other than the conference withholding a % of their shared revenue. SO YES fucked up situation, but NO not even close to SMU/death penalty situation. And let's not pretend Campbell was so established. His second year was the first meeting after ISU had won 11 games the previous 4 years. And of course it's easy to flip a team fast in Ames as it is a recruiting hotbed.

Then maybe compare the same amount of years of the coaches when trying to compare.

Again Mav you are a smart cat, but sometimes you just spout crap about certain things that some posters post that make you look real douchy

And yes for the record I believe Campbell's last three ISU teams would have beaten RHule's NU teams by double digits each year

 

[Archy1221]

I hate Iowa State with a passion but you're wrong about Campbell being a mediocre coach. Ames is one of the hardest places in the country to recruit players and win at. What he did with that doormat of a program is nothing short of miraculous. I'm not saying he is necessarily going to be better than James Franklin but he could coach/develop circles around Matt Rhule.

He turned an average of 4 win a year team into an average 7 win a year team. That’s the easy part of a turnaround. The hard part of a turnaround and getting into the “miraculous” territory is getting to the 9/10 win a year program

 

[Mavric]

So since he can't beat Top 25 teams Rhule has only losing to good teams??? Got it. 66 wins in 10 years. 77 wins for campbell in the years Rhule was a college coach so pretty close to same amount of wins except when playing ranked teams

As fucked as the culture around Baylor football and BBall were with what some did, there was nothing remotely close to the death penalty other than the conference withholding a % of their shared revenue. SO YES fucked up situation, but NO not even close to SMU/death penalty situation. And let's not pretend Campbell was so established. His second year was the first meeting after ISU had won 11 games the previous 4 years. And of course it's easy to flip a team fast in Ames as it is a recruiting hotbed.

Then maybe compare the same amount of years of the coaches when trying to compare.

Again Mav you are a smart cat, but sometimes you just spout crap about certain things that some posters post that make you look real douchy

And yes for the record I believe Campbell's last three ISU teams would have beaten RHule's NU teams by double digits each year

You're missing the point. The statement I contested was that Campbell was 10 times the coach Rhule was. You're trying to nit-pick whether he's better at all.

But somehow you're calling me out for being douchy.