What is our record next year?

[Hercules]

We'll see. I think they are nothing more than an average team playing in a horrid confrence. Thier average rivals rating the past 4 years is in the mid to upper 40's. They do NOT have a roster chock full of talent. They have a new qb, 3/5 of an OL, and only return 10 starters overall. They are also big, slow and lack overall team speed. They have a nice home field advantage, and they are coached well. I give them that. They also should have lost to ASU, and Iowa and were beaten by freakin TCU. Again, I fail to see the love, but whatever. If Wisconsin is the toughest team in the Big 101112, NU will own this confrense soon!

I don't know if they should have lost to ASU or Iowa. But they didn't. We, on the other hand, should have beaten Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, and Washington - but we didn't. We also should have smashed Iowa State, but instead we squeaked by because their holder happened to throw the worst pass of the year on a brilliant play call that would have otherwise beaten us in overtime.

When you say that they were beaten by "freakin" TCU, are you forgetting that TCU was a top 5 team? Are you perhaps forgetting that NOBODY beat TCU last year?

When everybody repeatedly says that Nebraska has the best team speed in the conference except for Ohio State, seeing video of Wisconsin absolutely bulldoze the Buckeyes doesn't exactly make me think they're some big, slow team that we're just going to run circles around. (And by the way, "big and slow" is what people called Nebraska in the 1990's. Just because a team likes to run the ball from under center doesn't make them slow. Montee Ball and James White look plenty fast to me).

And seriously? You're coming to this discussion with their "average rivals rating?" Who gives a crap how many stars scout.com gave their recruits? They are the Big 10 Champions until somebody unseats them.

The Big 10 is not going to be that much tougher than the Big 12. It also won't be that much easier. I'm not afraid of Wisconsin, but for God's sake don't take them lightly. They were a better team in 2010 than every one of the four teams that beat Nebraska.

 

[bshirt]

Wisconsin is the defending conference champion. They're a good football team.

There a "nice" team, nothing more. Who cares if they won the confrence last year, its irrelevant to this year. They lost thier QB, 3/5 of the OL, and 2 NFL draft choices on the defense. They are a big, slow, bruising team. Like I said, I just dont see all the love for Wisconsin. I think NU rolls them!

Husker in Oklahoma.......is this the same dude from years ago on HP? If so, GREETINGS old friend! I hope things are well you ......

GBR!!

Yes sir. Things are well bshirt. Hope your doing well to my friend. You should come on over and check out huskermax. Its all good. Dont post here much, but do read the board from time to time. I really do not understand all this Wisconsin love. It makes me laugh. :lol:

Great to see ya, compadre'!

Well, if nothing else things are lot better for NU then when I last saw ya. Oh boy, those Clownahan years were brutal. :angry: Oh sure, HuskerMax is a fine forum too.

We're getting close, HIO, I can feel it. Our offense gets halfway straightened out we're gonna be big fun for the Big10. Can't wait!

GBR!!

 

[Saunders]

We'll see. I think they are nothing more than an average team playing in a horrid confrence. Thier average rivals rating the past 4 years is in the mid to upper 40's. They do NOT have a roster chock full of talent. They have a new qb, 3/5 of an OL, and only return 10 starters overall. They are also big, slow and lack overall team speed. They have a nice home field advantage, and they are coached well. I give them that. They also should have lost to ASU, and Iowa and were beaten by freakin TCU. Again, I fail to see the love, but whatever. If Wisconsin is the toughest team in the Big 101112, NU will own this confrense soon!

I don't know if they should have lost to ASU or Iowa. But they didn't. We, on the other hand, should have beaten Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, and Washington - but we didn't. We also should have smashed Iowa State, but instead we squeaked by because their holder happened to throw the worst pass of the year on a brilliant play call that would have otherwise beaten us in overtime.

When you say that they were beaten by "freakin" TCU, are you forgetting that TCU was a top 5 team? Are you perhaps forgetting that NOBODY beat TCU last year?

When everybody repeatedly says that Nebraska has the best team speed in the conference except for Ohio State, seeing video of Wisconsin absolutely bulldoze the Buckeyes doesn't exactly make me think they're some big, slow team that we're just going to run circles around. (And by the way, "big and slow" is what people called Nebraska in the 1990's. Just because a team likes to run the ball from under center doesn't make them slow. Montee Ball and James White look plenty fast to me).

And seriously? You're coming to this discussion with their "average rivals rating?" Who gives a crap how many stars scout.com gave their recruits? They are the Big 10 Champions until somebody unseats them.

The Big 10 is not going to be that much tougher than the Big 12. It also won't be that much easier. I'm not afraid of Wisconsin, but for God's sake don't take them lightly. They were a better team in 2010 than every one of the four teams that beat Nebraska.

I agree with most of what you said, except the last line. Last year's Wisky team may have been better than those teams, but not this year. White and Ball are damn good, but as we have seen first hand, two good RB's don't matter when your passing game isn't a threat. IIRC, the heir apparent for Wisky isn't playing (injury I believe) and now they're going to the third or fourth string guy from last year. That's got to be a concern for them.

I'm not concerned about our switching defensive styles though. If we can remain relatively healthy, we should still be the #1 or #2 D in the conference. Remember, LSU was a top 5 D all 3 years BO was there, and the SEC is more run/power based than the Big 10 is now.

Is it September yet?

 

[robsker]

We'll see. I think they are nothing more than an average team playing in a horrid confrence. Thier average rivals rating the past 4 years is in the mid to upper 40's. They do NOT have a roster chock full of talent. They have a new qb, 3/5 of an OL, and only return 10 starters overall. They are also big, slow and lack overall team speed. They have a nice home field advantage, and they are coached well. I give them that. They also should have lost to ASU, and Iowa and were beaten by freakin TCU. Again, I fail to see the love, but whatever. If Wisconsin is the toughest team in the Big 101112, NU will own this confrense soon!

I don't know if they should have lost to ASU or Iowa. But they didn't. We, on the other hand, should have beaten Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, and Washington - but we didn't. We also should have smashed Iowa State, but instead we squeaked by because their holder happened to throw the worst pass of the year on a brilliant play call that would have otherwise beaten us in overtime.

When you say that they were beaten by "freakin" TCU, are you forgetting that TCU was a top 5 team? Are you perhaps forgetting that NOBODY beat TCU last year?

When everybody repeatedly says that Nebraska has the best team speed in the conference except for Ohio State, seeing video of Wisconsin absolutely bulldoze the Buckeyes doesn't exactly make me think they're some big, slow team that we're just going to run circles around. (And by the way, "big and slow" is what people called Nebraska in the 1990's. Just because a team likes to run the ball from under center doesn't make them slow. Montee Ball and James White look plenty fast to me).

And seriously? You're coming to this discussion with their "average rivals rating?" Who gives a crap how many stars scout.com gave their recruits? They are the Big 10 Champions until somebody unseats them.

The Big 10 is not going to be that much tougher than the Big 12. It also won't be that much easier. I'm not afraid of Wisconsin, but for God's sake don't take them lightly. They were a better team in 2010 than every one of the four teams that beat Nebraska.

I agree with most of what you said, except the last line. Last year's Wisky team may have been better than those teams, but not this year. White and Ball are damn good, but as we have seen first hand, two good RB's don't matter when your passing game isn't a threat. IIRC, the heir apparent for Wisky isn't playing (injury I believe) and now they're going to the third or fourth string guy from last year. That's got to be a concern for them.

I'm not concerned about our switching defensive styles though. If we can remain relatively healthy, we should still be the #1 or #2 D in the conference. Remember, LSU was a top 5 D all 3 years BO was there, and the SEC is more run/power based than the Big 10 is now.

Is it September yet?

A question for you... were you afraid of Washington before the bowl game? What happened there? I'll tell you what happened --- NU, as we have tended to do 3-4 times a season under Pelini --- showed up flat, uninspired, unprepared and played a listless and passionless game. No intensity. And, this happened as well --- again as happens fairly often for NU the past years --- we could not adjust quickly enough. And so... we lost.

Until NU plays every down of every game with focus and intensity --- until the fumbles are cut by 60-70%, until the dropped passes go away, until the penalties drop by 50-60% --- until that happens... well, any teams Washingtons caliber and up are toss-up games for the Huskers --- and we have 8 of them next year. Wisconsin is one of them.

You never know what NU team will show up... the crappy one or the good one. Until that stops, do not expect 1 or 2 loss seasons.. expect more losses that that. If NU hits on all cylinders, we have a great shot at putting Wisconsin down. If we come in unprepared (which often happens) we get killed. Its that simple.

I am more inclined to say that the Wisconsin running game or passing game (lack thereof) is not nearly as big a factor as is what NU team will show up. Will NU be prepared? Or will they be the flat, unfocased team that we saw in oh... 4-5 games last year. Who knows?

 

[huskerscott]

We'll see. I think they are nothing more than an average team playing in a horrid confrence. Thier average rivals rating the past 4 years is in the mid to upper 40's. They do NOT have a roster chock full of talent. They have a new qb, 3/5 of an OL, and only return 10 starters overall. They are also big, slow and lack overall team speed. They have a nice home field advantage, and they are coached well. I give them that. They also should have lost to ASU, and Iowa and were beaten by freakin TCU. Again, I fail to see the love, but whatever. If Wisconsin is the toughest team in the Big 101112, NU will own this confrense soon!

I don't know if they should have lost to ASU or Iowa. But they didn't. We, on the other hand, should have beaten Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, and Washington - but we didn't. We also should have smashed Iowa State, but instead we squeaked by because their holder happened to throw the worst pass of the year on a brilliant play call that would have otherwise beaten us in overtime.

When you say that they were beaten by "freakin" TCU, are you forgetting that TCU was a top 5 team? Are you perhaps forgetting that NOBODY beat TCU last year?

When everybody repeatedly says that Nebraska has the best team speed in the conference except for Ohio State, seeing video of Wisconsin absolutely bulldoze the Buckeyes doesn't exactly make me think they're some big, slow team that we're just going to run circles around. (And by the way, "big and slow" is what people called Nebraska in the 1990's. Just because a team likes to run the ball from under center doesn't make them slow. Montee Ball and James White look plenty fast to me).

And seriously? You're coming to this discussion with their "average rivals rating?" Who gives a crap how many stars scout.com gave their recruits? They are the Big 10 Champions until somebody unseats them.

The Big 10 is not going to be that much tougher than the Big 12. It also won't be that much easier. I'm not afraid of Wisconsin, but for God's sake don't take them lightly. They were a better team in 2010 than every one of the four teams that beat Nebraska.

I agree with most of what you said, except the last line. Last year's Wisky team may have been better than those teams, but not this year. White and Ball are damn good, but as we have seen first hand, two good RB's don't matter when your passing game isn't a threat. IIRC, the heir apparent for Wisky isn't playing (injury I believe) and now they're going to the third or fourth string guy from last year. That's got to be a concern for them.

I'm not concerned about our switching defensive styles though. If we can remain relatively healthy, we should still be the #1 or #2 D in the conference. Remember, LSU was a top 5 D all 3 years BO was there, and the SEC is more run/power based than the Big 10 is now.

Is it September yet?

A question for you... were you afraid of Washington before the bowl game? What happened there? I'll tell you what happened --- NU, as we have tended to do 3-4 times a season under Pelini --- showed up flat, uninspired, unprepared and played a listless and passionless game. No intensity. And, this happened as well --- again as happens fairly often for NU the past years --- we could not adjust quickly enough. And so... we lost.

Until NU plays every down of every game with focus and intensity --- until the fumbles are cut by 60-70%, until the dropped passes go away, until the penalties drop by 50-60% --- until that happens... well, any teams Washingtons caliber and up are toss-up games for the Huskers --- and we have 8 of them next year. Wisconsin is one of them. You never know what NU team will show up... the crappy one or the good one. Until that stops, do not expect 1 or 2 loss seasons.. expect more losses that that. If NU hits on all cylinders, we have a great shot at putting Wisconsin down. If we come in unprepared (which often happens) we get killed. Its that simple.

I am more inclined to say that the Wisconsin running game or passing game (lack thereof) is not nearly as big a factor as is what NU team will show up. Will NU be prepared? Or will they be the flat, unfocased team that we saw in oh... 4-5 games last year. Who knows?

8 "toss up" games??????? You cant be serious. Im curious to see which games you are counting as toss up games. I just dont see where you can get 8.

 

[Husker In Oklahoma]

When you say that they were beaten by "freakin" TCU, are you forgetting that TCU was a top 5 team? Are you perhaps forgetting that NOBODY beat TCU last year?

When everybody repeatedly says that Nebraska has the best team speed in the conference except for Ohio State, seeing video of Wisconsin absolutely bulldoze the Buckeyes doesn't exactly make me think they're some big, slow team that we're just going to run circles around. (And by the way, "big and slow" is what people called Nebraska in the 1990's. Just because a team likes to run the ball from under center doesn't make them slow. Montee Ball and James White look plenty fast to me).

And seriously? You're coming to this discussion with their "average rivals rating?" Who gives a crap how many stars scout.com gave their recruits? They are the Big 10 Champions until somebody unseats them.

The Big 10 is not going to be that much tougher than the Big 12. It also won't be that much easier. I'm not afraid of Wisconsin, but for God's sake don't take them lightly. They were a better team in 2010 than every one of the four teams that beat Nebraska.

TCU was a nice team, they beat no one, except Wisconsin. There were no GREAT teams last year, none. Wisconsin has a lack of team speed. Yes, they do a nice job of running down hill. After the first quarter of the OSU game, OSU outplayed them. Wisconsin got off to a good start. ASU missed 2 extra points, yes they should have lost that game. The Big 10 has been weak for decades. I give you Wisconsin has a good home field advantage, but they are nothing special. And yes, NU used to be big and slow, just like most everyone else, notw, that is just in the Big 10, thats why they get smoked every year in bowl games.

Rivals ratings are not the end all, but your not gonna win a National Championship with an average star rating around 2.90 and a 4 year ranking in the mid to upper 40's. Wisconsin would have NOT beat OU last year, and they would have had there hands completely full with A&M. They are slow on defense and quite simple on offense. I dont take them lightly, but they are nothing special, period. Suggesting they are some terrefic powerhouse is nonsense!

 

[Saunders]

We'll see. I think they are nothing more than an average team playing in a horrid confrence. Thier average rivals rating the past 4 years is in the mid to upper 40's. They do NOT have a roster chock full of talent. They have a new qb, 3/5 of an OL, and only return 10 starters overall. They are also big, slow and lack overall team speed. They have a nice home field advantage, and they are coached well. I give them that. They also should have lost to ASU, and Iowa and were beaten by freakin TCU. Again, I fail to see the love, but whatever. If Wisconsin is the toughest team in the Big 101112, NU will own this confrense soon!

I don't know if they should have lost to ASU or Iowa. But they didn't. We, on the other hand, should have beaten Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, and Washington - but we didn't. We also should have smashed Iowa State, but instead we squeaked by because their holder happened to throw the worst pass of the year on a brilliant play call that would have otherwise beaten us in overtime.

When you say that they were beaten by "freakin" TCU, are you forgetting that TCU was a top 5 team? Are you perhaps forgetting that NOBODY beat TCU last year?

When everybody repeatedly says that Nebraska has the best team speed in the conference except for Ohio State, seeing video of Wisconsin absolutely bulldoze the Buckeyes doesn't exactly make me think they're some big, slow team that we're just going to run circles around. (And by the way, "big and slow" is what people called Nebraska in the 1990's. Just because a team likes to run the ball from under center doesn't make them slow. Montee Ball and James White look plenty fast to me).

And seriously? You're coming to this discussion with their "average rivals rating?" Who gives a crap how many stars scout.com gave their recruits? They are the Big 10 Champions until somebody unseats them.

The Big 10 is not going to be that much tougher than the Big 12. It also won't be that much easier. I'm not afraid of Wisconsin, but for God's sake don't take them lightly. They were a better team in 2010 than every one of the four teams that beat Nebraska.

I agree with most of what you said, except the last line. Last year's Wisky team may have been better than those teams, but not this year. White and Ball are damn good, but as we have seen first hand, two good RB's don't matter when your passing game isn't a threat. IIRC, the heir apparent for Wisky isn't playing (injury I believe) and now they're going to the third or fourth string guy from last year. That's got to be a concern for them.

I'm not concerned about our switching defensive styles though. If we can remain relatively healthy, we should still be the #1 or #2 D in the conference. Remember, LSU was a top 5 D all 3 years BO was there, and the SEC is more run/power based than the Big 10 is now.

Is it September yet?

A question for you... were you afraid of Washington before the bowl game? What happened there? I'll tell you what happened --- NU, as we have tended to do 3-4 times a season under Pelini --- showed up flat, uninspired, unprepared and played a listless and passionless game. No intensity. And, this happened as well --- again as happens fairly often for NU the past years --- we could not adjust quickly enough. And so... we lost.

Until NU plays every down of every game with focus and intensity --- until the fumbles are cut by 60-70%, until the dropped passes go away, until the penalties drop by 50-60% --- until that happens... well, any teams Washingtons caliber and up are toss-up games for the Huskers --- and we have 8 of them next year. Wisconsin is one of them.

You never know what NU team will show up... the crappy one or the good one. Until that stops, do not expect 1 or 2 loss seasons.. expect more losses that that. If NU hits on all cylinders, we have a great shot at putting Wisconsin down. If we come in unprepared (which often happens) we get killed. Its that simple.

I am more inclined to say that the Wisconsin running game or passing game (lack thereof) is not nearly as big a factor as is what NU team will show up. Will NU be prepared? Or will they be the flat, unfocased team that we saw in oh... 4-5 games last year. Who knows?

Wait. So you're comparing a game which nobody wanted in the washington rematch (I thought we would lose) to our first Big 10 game against the previous conference champion.

Seriously?

Other than Washington, what games were we "flat" last year? SDSU?

2009? We had ISU and..... um.... ???

I think you're confusing "flat" and having a highly inconsistent offense.

 

[bigg10]

When you say that they were beaten by "freakin" TCU, are you forgetting that TCU was a top 5 team? Are you perhaps forgetting that NOBODY beat TCU last year?

When everybody repeatedly says that Nebraska has the best team speed in the conference except for Ohio State, seeing video of Wisconsin absolutely bulldoze the Buckeyes doesn't exactly make me think they're some big, slow team that we're just going to run circles around. (And by the way, "big and slow" is what people called Nebraska in the 1990's. Just because a team likes to run the ball from under center doesn't make them slow. Montee Ball and James White look plenty fast to me).

And seriously? You're coming to this discussion with their "average rivals rating?" Who gives a crap how many stars scout.com gave their recruits? They are the Big 10 Champions until somebody unseats them.

The Big 10 is not going to be that much tougher than the Big 12. It also won't be that much easier. I'm not afraid of Wisconsin, but for God's sake don't take them lightly. They were a better team in 2010 than every one of the four teams that beat Nebraska.

TCU was a nice team, they beat no one, except Wisconsin. There were no GREAT teams last year, none. Wisconsin has a lack of team speed. Yes, they do a nice job of running down hill. After the first quarter of the OSU game, OSU outplayed them. Wisconsin got off to a good start. ASU missed 2 extra points, yes they should have lost that game. The Big 10 has been weak for decades. I give you Wisconsin has a good home field advantage, but they are nothing special. And yes, NU used to be big and slow, just like most everyone else, notw, that is just in the Big 10, thats why they get smoked every year in bowl games.

Rivals ratings are not the end all, but your not gonna win a National Championship with an average star rating around 2.90 and a 4 year ranking in the mid to upper 40's. Wisconsin would have NOT beat OU last year, and they would have had there hands completely full with A&M. They are slow on defense and quite simple on offense. I dont take them lightly, but they are nothing special, period. Suggesting they are some terrefic powerhouse is nonsense!

Really another arguement over B12/B10? Lets look at last year. Iowa a 7-5 team gets Missery and OK gets who?? Those in charge know exactly who's who.

 

[Hercules]

When you say that they were beaten by "freakin" TCU, are you forgetting that TCU was a top 5 team? Are you perhaps forgetting that NOBODY beat TCU last year?

When everybody repeatedly says that Nebraska has the best team speed in the conference except for Ohio State, seeing video of Wisconsin absolutely bulldoze the Buckeyes doesn't exactly make me think they're some big, slow team that we're just going to run circles around. (And by the way, "big and slow" is what people called Nebraska in the 1990's. Just because a team likes to run the ball from under center doesn't make them slow. Montee Ball and James White look plenty fast to me).

And seriously? You're coming to this discussion with their "average rivals rating?" Who gives a crap how many stars scout.com gave their recruits? They are the Big 10 Champions until somebody unseats them.

The Big 10 is not going to be that much tougher than the Big 12. It also won't be that much easier. I'm not afraid of Wisconsin, but for God's sake don't take them lightly. They were a better team in 2010 than every one of the four teams that beat Nebraska.

TCU was a nice team, they beat no one, except Wisconsin. There were no GREAT teams last year, none. Wisconsin has a lack of team speed. Yes, they do a nice job of running down hill. After the first quarter of the OSU game, OSU outplayed them. Wisconsin got off to a good start. ASU missed 2 extra points, yes they should have lost that game. The Big 10 has been weak for decades. I give you Wisconsin has a good home field advantage, but they are nothing special. And yes, NU used to be big and slow, just like most everyone else, notw, that is just in the Big 10, thats why they get smoked every year in bowl games.

Rivals ratings are not the end all, but your not gonna win a National Championship with an average star rating around 2.90 and a 4 year ranking in the mid to upper 40's. Wisconsin would have NOT beat OU last year, and they would have had there hands completely full with A&M. They are slow on defense and quite simple on offense. I dont take them lightly, but they are nothing special, period. Suggesting they are some terrefic powerhouse is nonsense!

Get real. If TCU and Wisconsin were just "nice" teams last year, what the heck was Nebraska or Oklahoma? Nebraska who had to get lucky to beat IOWA STATE, and got outclassed in its bowl game against Washington, one of the laughingstocks of the PAC 10. Nebraska who only beat SDSU by two touchdowns, and who then became the only team in the Big 12 that couldn't beat Texas. Oklahoma who looked unimpressive against UCONN, in their bowl game, who got completely outclassed by Missouri and Texas A&M.

Oklahoma wasn't a particularly good team last year. Nebraska was the best team in every game it played in, and yet we still lost 4 times.

To say, "and yes, Nebraska used to be big and slow," when you're referring to the 1990's is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Nebraska was big, strong, bruising, and lightining fast. Not even remotely slow.

2011 Wisconsin might have some issues to work on, but so does 2011 Nebraska. 2011 Wisconsin might not be as good as 2010 Oklahoma, or maybe even 2010 Texas A&M. But they sure as hell are going to be better than 2010 Texas, 2010 Washington, and 2010 Iowa State.

If we had spent the last decade dominating the Big 12, then I'd be right there with you, thinking that we were going to roll right through the Big 10. I do think the Big 12, with Nebraska in it, was a stronger conference than the Big 10. But it's not that much better, and we didn't spend the last decade dominating the Big 12. We spent the last decade futzing through three coaches without a single conference championship, struggling to win the Big 12 north division.

If you think Wisconsin isn't that good, that's fine, but I've got news for you: By those standards, neither are we.

 

[huskerscott]

Mizery doesnt "outclass" anybody.

Since when is beating a team by 4 TDs "unimpressive." Even if it was from the BigEast.

 

[Hunter94]

When you say that they were beaten by "freakin" TCU, are you forgetting that TCU was a top 5 team? Are you perhaps forgetting that NOBODY beat TCU last year?

When everybody repeatedly says that Nebraska has the best team speed in the conference except for Ohio State, seeing video of Wisconsin absolutely bulldoze the Buckeyes doesn't exactly make me think they're some big, slow team that we're just going to run circles around. (And by the way, "big and slow" is what people called Nebraska in the 1990's. Just because a team likes to run the ball from under center doesn't make them slow. Montee Ball and James White look plenty fast to me).

And seriously? You're coming to this discussion with their "average rivals rating?" Who gives a crap how many stars scout.com gave their recruits? They are the Big 10 Champions until somebody unseats them.

The Big 10 is not going to be that much tougher than the Big 12. It also won't be that much easier. I'm not afraid of Wisconsin, but for God's sake don't take them lightly. They were a better team in 2010 than every one of the four teams that beat Nebraska.

TCU was a nice team, they beat no one, except Wisconsin. There were no GREAT teams last year, none. Wisconsin has a lack of team speed. Yes, they do a nice job of running down hill. After the first quarter of the OSU game, OSU outplayed them. Wisconsin got off to a good start. ASU missed 2 extra points, yes they should have lost that game. The Big 10 has been weak for decades. I give you Wisconsin has a good home field advantage, but they are nothing special. And yes, NU used to be big and slow, just like most everyone else, notw, that is just in the Big 10, thats why they get smoked every year in bowl games.

Rivals ratings are not the end all, but your not gonna win a National Championship with an average star rating around 2.90 and a 4 year ranking in the mid to upper 40's. Wisconsin would have NOT beat OU last year, and they would have had there hands completely full with A&M. They are slow on defense and quite simple on offense. I dont take them lightly, but they are nothing special, period. Suggesting they are some terrefic powerhouse is nonsense!

Get real. If TCU and Wisconsin were just "nice" teams last year, what the heck was Nebraska or Oklahoma? Nebraska who had to get lucky to beat IOWA STATE, and got outclassed in its bowl game against Washington, one of the laughingstocks of the PAC 10. Nebraska who only beat SDSU by two touchdowns, and who then became the only team in the Big 12 that couldn't beat Texas. Oklahoma who looked unimpressive against UCONN, in their bowl game, who got completely outclassed by Missouri and Texas A&M.

Oklahoma wasn't a particularly good team last year. Nebraska was the best team in every game it played in, and yet we still lost 4 times.

To say, "and yes, Nebraska used to be big and slow," when you're referring to the 1990's is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Nebraska was big, strong, bruising, and lightining fast. Not even remotely slow.

2011 Wisconsin might have some issues to work on, but so does 2011 Nebraska. 2011 Wisconsin might not be as good as 2010 Oklahoma, or maybe even 2010 Texas A&M. But they sure as hell are going to be better than 2010 Texas, 2010 Washington, and 2010 Iowa State.

If we had spent the last decade dominating the Big 12, then I'd be right there with you, thinking that we were going to roll right through the Big 10. I do think the Big 12, with Nebraska in it, was a stronger conference than the Big 10. But it's not that much better, and we didn't spend the last decade dominating the Big 12. We spent the last decade futzing through three coaches without a single conference championship, struggling to win the Big 12 north division.

If you think Wisconsin isn't that good, that's fine, but I've got news for you: By those standards, neither are we.

word.........

 

[GMoose]

Some of you guys who talk about Wisconsin losing a QB and OL and etc. to the draft - we lost 7 guys to the draft. Roy Helu was just as valuable to us as Scott Tolzien was, same with Prince to Carimi, and so on. Confidence is good, but saying Wisconsin will fall off and we'll get better is blind homerism and ignorance

 

[ADS]

Some of you guys who talk about Wisconsin losing a QB and OL and etc. to the draft - we lost 7 guys to the draft. Roy Helu was just as valuable to us as Scott Tolzien was, same with Prince to Carimi, and so on. Confidence is good, but saying Wisconsin will fall off and we'll get better is blind homerism and ignorance

Very underrated post. People saying that Wisconsin is going to to get rolled by Nebraska have another thing coming in October. That WILL be the toughest game on the dock, no doubt about it.

 

[Husker In Oklahoma]

To say, "and yes, Nebraska used to be big and slow," when you're referring to the 1990's is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Nebraska was big, strong, bruising, and lightining fast. Not even remotely slow.

NU was big and slow, although faster than what Wisconsin is now up until 1993, when the staff made a change for the better and installed speed and smaller LB's and DE's. I'm not stupid. Keep on livin your Wisconsin dream. They are average. And yea, OU or Okla State would have laid the wood to them last year. Pointless to argue this. I believe the entire Big 10 in fairly weak on a regular basis, less OSU, its why they constantly get rolled in bowl games. Nebraska has not been great, we all know as much. They have the potential to be great and IMO, Wisconsin does not. Wisconsin gets as much as possible out of the talent they have. Credit them for that, but they are nothing special.

 

[bigg10]

To say, "and yes, Nebraska used to be big and slow," when you're referring to the 1990's is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Nebraska was big, strong, bruising, and lightining fast. Not even remotely slow.

NU was big and slow, although faster than what Wisconsin is now up until 1993, when the staff made a change for the better and installed speed and smaller LB's and DE's. I'm not stupid. Keep on livin your Wisconsin dream. They are average. And yea, OU or Okla State would have laid the wood to them last year. Pointless to argue this. I believe the entire Big 10 in fairly weak on a regular basis, less OSU, its why they constantly get rolled in bowl games. Nebraska has not been great, we all know as much. They have the potential to be great and IMO, Wisconsin does not. Wisconsin gets as much as possible out of the talent they have. Credit them for that, but they are nothing special.

My god, use your head. It is a shame when capable people do not use what was given them.

Conference with most BCS bowl appearances Big Ten (21)

Conference with most BCS bowl game wins SEC (15)

Conference with most championships SEC (7)

Again I point out to you the B10 does not give a rat crap about the B12, they are after the sec.

On the whole Nebraska leaving the B12 and going to the B10. Yes it does hurt the B12 and strengthen

the B10. But to sit there and claim that even before that move the B12 was a better conf is retarded. Everything from bowls to the way they split up money was a fail in the B12. The only reason the B12 has had any recent sucess against the B10 in bowls is due to the fact way over half the time the b10 is fielding a midlevel team against one of the better b12 teams. I would also suspect in the next 5 years you will really start to see that gap open up even more (the have's and have not's is how they worded it). Joe P brought up a point and it was looked into by the B10 that YES not having a conf champ game does hurt the teams in bowls, due to the long lay off.

There are alot of smart people on this fourm, if ya sit down a listen, mabey they will be nice enough to share some of that knowledge.