I respect that. Truly. I should know what that is like. I graduated from K-State, and from the time I enrolled for my first class to the day I graduated, we had won a total of.... 12 games. (In four years.) Going out to the stadium for gameday was really like watching a road game with all of the visiting team's fans there with us. You just sat there and took it from the opposing team's fans. The difference is that we NEVER expected to win, ever. For many, saturdays were just an excuse to get wasted and act like idiots, not rabid football fans who love their alma mater and their teams. That is why we hold Coach Snyder in the highest regard, forever. I would not be here talking football with you if that man did not devote his whole life to Kansas State. He gave us something we never, ever thought would be possible. Winning football. And now for true fans here in Kansas, the last couple of years have been stunning to the whole fanbase. It will truly bring out the fans, like yourself, who wear their pride on their sleeve and support the team like no other. I totally understand where you are coming from man.