Paradoxical Seasons

husker_99 said:
RedDenver said:
husker_99 said:
RedDenver said:
Still evading. What point are you making/defending?
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that there were no dual threat qb's in the Big 12 as good as robinson, miller, and kolter. I said McCoy, Griffin, Klein which had put up comparable numbers.
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So your point is that McCoy, Griffin, Klein are comparable to robinson, miller, and kolter (I assume as runners based on the rest of the thread). Given that you've said stats don't lie, how do you explain this:

EZ-E said:
Alright stats boy:

I will break down the rushing attempts, YPC, and total yards based on Sports-Reference.com from each QB we are talking about in the years we played them:

Klein in 2011

317 attempts, 1100 yards at 3.47 per carry

McCoy in 2011

129 attempts, 348 yards at 2.7 YPC

RG3 we saw in Bo's first season as HC. I'm not going to even include him.

Colter

2011) 135 attempts - 654 yards at 4.84 YPC

2012) 170 attempts - 894 yards at 5.25 YPC

Miller

2011) 159 attempts - 715 yards at 4.49 YPC

2012) 227 attempts - 1271 yards at 5.6 YPC

Robinson

2011) 221 attempts - 1176 yards at 5.32 YPC

2012) 177 attempts - 1266 yards at 7.15 YPC

As you see from the data above, the QBs that we have faced twice in two years have all averaged more per carry than both of the QBS you named and all three had more attempts than one of the QBs you named. By these numbers, I am going to conclude that as a whole, The Big Ten Spread Option QBs in the conversation are better runners and more explosive runners. They also get to carry the football a lot more than we saw QBs do in the Big 12.
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look at totals and previous two seasons McCoy rushed for more than 500 yards. I already posted all my stats. Average's don't matter when total is comparable.
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So the fact that Miller, Robinson, and Kolter absolutely dominate McCoy and Klein in yards per carry isn't convincing to you? YPC is probably the best indicator of a backs running threat. That's where you've lost the argument IMO.

 
Mr. Accountability said:
I thought I would just be agreed with.
What have I done?
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If you are referring to me, you a fine. You made your point, along with MANY others. He won't listen and it is so damn frustrating because he won't give up even when he is made to look a fool. He just changes what he is arguing about to make his point valid.

I have never ignored anyone for more than a week because they are usually banned by that point. I think he might be a candidate, but he is quoted so much in arguments you would wind up reading his posts anyway.

T minus 25 days....

 
Total yards aren't comparable, because they ignore how many attempts went into that total yard amount. I could tell you that I rushed for 1000 yards, and while that may look impressive, it certainly becomes less impressive when I tell you that I ran the ball 1000 times for 1000 yards.

That's what yards per carry does. It standardizes everyone on the number of rushing attempts and offers a much more accurate comparison of their running effectiveness.

If I asked you which job you would prefer, based solely on weekly salary, a job that requires you to work 60 hours a week and pays $1,500/wk or a job that requires you to work 40 hours a week and pays $1,250/wk, which one would you choose and why?

 
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Bye Bye Big XII said:
If I asked you which job you would prefer, based solely on weekly salary, a job that requires you to work 60 hours a week and pays $1,500/wk or a job that requires you to work 40 hours a week and pays $1,250/wk, which one would you choose and why?
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He would choose whichever one you didn't, just for the sake of arguing.

 
The Dude said:
I'd take Klein over Miller or Robinson, easily. He might not have been as explosive or agile a runner as those two guys, but that didn't prevent him from being more effective. He was a tank. 50 rushing TDs in 2 years? Get outta here.
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I'd rather prepare for Klein than I would Miller or Robinson.

 
EZ-E said:
The Dude said:
I'd take Klein over Miller or Robinson, easily. He might not have been as explosive or agile a runner as those two guys, but that didn't prevent him from being more effective. He was a tank. 50 rushing TDs in 2 years? Get outta here.
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I'd rather prepare for Klein than I would Miller or Robinson.
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Seriously. Klein makes Martinez look like Tom Brady in throwing the football.

 
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