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They coached together at USC

Riley coached at USC from 93-96. Orgeron was from 98-04 and 10-13.

Thought I read somewhere that they knew each other from USC. My apologies, you guise

 

I read that also, but it's incorrect. I heard Riley say he didn't know Orgeron, but they did share an agent.

 

Oil and water don't mix.

They are way too different people to be on the same staff together.

It's not really Bankers fault...everything changed in CFB and especially in the Pac-12 and initially nobody could stop this hurry-up spread stuff.

Hell, USC with Pete Carroll's 5 Star recruits couldn't stop Oregon once they got going.

Then Arizona with Rich Rod and ASU with Graham and Leach being all over the place passing 65 times a game and then you have to regroup and play Stanford which is smash-mouth.

Look at Auburn and Bama this year...look at Baylor and TCU....

And yet Banker has had to deal with a more diverse offensive base than the SEC or Big10. Constant speed it up and spread it all around.

Before 2008 he was considered really good. His defense held the #1 offense in the country to 21 points in a win against USC and to 30 points in another win.

But yeah...he doesn't seem to have solved the new offenses - he's an old sort NFL guy...look how lame Monte Kiffin was at USC...gave up the most points in a season in the history of USC football. (And Monte was supposed to be some defensive genius)

As long as most teams in the Big10 don't adopt Oregon's O - I think Nebraska will be just fine on D.

It seems to me that the persistent whining about Riley is coming from a small contingent, most of which were Bo supporters.

And therefore living in denial...expecting Saban or Malzhan to come here.

It's difficult to coach in the Midwest these days. The talent is in the South and on the Coasts...and that's why the Pac-12 has gotten a bunch of hot coaches flocking to the conference.

Nebraska is lucky to have Riley. I'm surprised he left Oregon State...I think his style of O fits in well with the Big10 while it was starting to not fit in well with the hyper-aggressive Pac-12 (UCLA, Arizona, Oregon, ASU, hell even USC now)

Riley is safe personality-wise and not caustic...and he just might win football games. But there's no way in hell the administration was going to replace Bo with someone like Leach or anyone controversial...and Nebraska wasn't getting a "splash hire" whatever that means. A lot has changed in 20 years in CFB.

Here's what I know....

Academic standards makes recruiting difdifficult in Wisconsin. Now couple that with the fact that there was a lot of speculation surrounding Beleima leaving because Wisconsin wasn't willing to give out fair pay raises to keep assistants.

Wiscy football is going down the tube unless they make some serious changes to their philosophy in the admin.

 

 

Yeah...have fun recruiting to Corvallis with the golden jewel of Nike money right next door. Oregon has the best facilities now in the nation - they are insane and insanely pampered...and OSU has high school stuff.

 

Anderson will find out the hard way...like the Durham Bulls trying to sign players over the NY Yankees.

He got a raise this year from Wisconsin to bump his pay to $2.2M, and I have to think he was in line for more winning the division. I wonder how much OSU is shelling out here.

Well the lifetime contract golden boy was only getting around 1.5M (lowest in the Pac-12) - so Anderson probably took a pay cut.

OSU doesn't have money just laying around. They are great at one sport that doesn't make money (college baseball)

Irregardless of what you guys think, CycloneClyde is a fellow human bean and deserves are respect.

 

Even the Precedent of the United States makes misteaks!

Love it.

You hab to aknowledge his post having had had an affect. It's ironic or myabe just a coincidence, don't ya think?

I came on hear to wish you luck in your bowl game. Good luck. Maybe next year will meet in the finale four! Hope so.

Now you are just trolling.

and for all apeerences, Nebraska is now a revolver door for coaches! Mike Reiley? On the other hand Paul Rhoads has been given the time and support needed to build a championship level progrum at tISU. Will see which strategies work out and which one don't.

Good luck in your bowl game.

Clearly you were not a Rhodes Scholar.

People who fall into this category scream ignorant to me. People who stayed isolated in the Big10 and didn't stay up to watch any Pac-12 football the last 10 years and don't understand how good and diverse that conference is and didn't watch Riley knocking off #1 USC in consecutive years...and didn't watch his physical teams with smart run games and future all-pro running backs.

The only people who hate the Riley hire are ignorant fans with a small college football TV watching history...if you didn't know Mike Riley before this hire, you are not a true fan of CFB but an insular and sheltered idiot and your opinion doesn't matter.

Since my update was moved out of the staff hire thread, I'll try to see is it will stick here.

 

The radio guy said that the WR & LB coaches are solid.

 

Said the ST guy sucks and is a bad recruiter. (Total waste off staff space, imo) .

 

Said the DC isn't very good. Can stop staight ahead running teams but sucks against spread teams (the anti Bo).

 

Said the OL coach hasn't done well, but hasn't had much to work with, which led him to the assumption that he is a bad recruiter, too.

It's not easy being a DC in the Pac-12 as the offenses are so diverse...and he was not a good fit in the Pac-12. He could work in the Big10 - but won't stop Ohio State.

Oregon State played Stanford really tough on D and kept it low scoring in 2012-2013. Built to handle Wisky.

Steve Sarkisian on playing Nebraska in the Holiday Bowl:

“We are excited to go play in the Holiday Bowl and be the first USC team to do so. We get to play close to home and our fans will show up in force. They’ll get to see a pair of Top 25 teams with storied football heritages. Having been to the Holiday Bowl when I was at Washington, I know this bowl experience will be a good one for our players and fans.

“We are hungry and determined to finish our season off well. We hope to use the momentum we have coming off our win over Notre Dame. But we’ll face a real challenge against a very good Nebraska team. Although they have made a coaching change, teams in transition like that usually band together and play well, as we saw last year here at USC and at Washington.

Steve Sarkisian’s only bowl victory as a head coach was the 2010 Holiday Bowl, a 19-7 victory over Nebraska.

This is a twofer possibility here. Avenge the losses to USC and smack down Sarkisian one more time. I like the matchup, need to send this class out with some dignity and a bowl win. GBR

Might be one of the best bowl games.

USC is better than their record...allowed three onside kicks and a hail mary to give them two extra losses.

USC could easily be 11-2.

 

Playing USC in San Diego...This is why I hate bowl games.

There won't be more than 3,000 USC fans there...that might even be pushing it.

 

Uh...no.

That's the easiest road trip...and San Diego is a popular road trip regardless at USC. I think USC fans show up...b/c of name brand opponent. If USC had been playing Fresno State...then yes, not much attendance. USC fans get the bigotry that is really ignorant sometimes.

It could have been worse, the Sun Bowl.

Great excuse for Nebraska fans to go to Cali - San Diego is great.

 

 

 

2014 Nebraska Total Defense Rank - 50th

 

2014 Oregon State Total Defense Rank - 76th

 

 

 

OSU Opponents Total Offense:

Hawaii- 72nd

SDSU- 67th

USC- 31st

Colorado- 41st

Utah- 87th

Stanford- 77th

Cal- 15th

WSU- 6th

ASU- 34th

Wash- 49th

Oregon- 1st

 

Nebraska Opponents Total Offense:

Flor Atlantic-96th

Fresno- 54th

Miami- 45th

Illinois- 101st

MSU- 14th

NW- 105th

Rutgers- 84th

Purdue- 109th

Wisc- 20th

Minnesota- 104th

Iowa- 69th

 

Stats aren't everything but overall OSU played against better Offenses.

 

EXCELLENT POST SIR! +1

 

 

Are Big10 defenses better than Pac12 defenses?

 

No.

Also for the posters who keep saying very little talent at OSU. They've had more talent then Nebraska. They've played in a BCS bowl In last decade. They beat both UCLA and Winny in 2012. We lost both those games. Oregon State is not the arm pit all you trying to claim to justify this hire and believe.

Corvallis is an armpit.

I was at the Fog Bowl against USC. Cold, rainy...fans wearing beanies drinking Natty Light...huddling around burning trash cans trying to get warm like homeless people before the game.

It's so high schoolish.

I've been trying to tell all you back in my great State of Nebraska this is a complete joke. All I've gotten is hate comments tossed my way and various name calling. I've watched this guy and his teams for over ten years in Oregon. Very soft!!!! I wish him the best, but if he remains loyal and brings most of his staff you'll be thankful for a 9 win season. This hire was solely made because coach Riley has positive energy and he fits the nice guy imagine Nebraska is trying to restore. I hope for the best, but I'll believe when I see it.

I have watched them too.

Soft? Only the last two years. Yes, Riley and Co. has regressed.

But they were not soft in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 when #1 USC had dogfights on their hands.

Oregon rising to unreal levels under Kelly really hurt Riley and his efforts. But his teams were always a blue-collar Boise-esque team that punched above their weight.

So Riley is going to saddle this team with his DC from Oregon State? I'm okay with the LB coach and Special Teams coach...but he had an opportunity to get someone of quality in this position and failed--if the Beavers were ready to run him out on a rail for fielding a poor Defense, what will happen when the same s**t show to Lincoln?

 

It's like the Callahan s**t all over again, but with more Brylcream, AARP discounts, and pockets full of s****y hard candies

Yeah...OSU's D has been horrid. Cal, Wazzu and Colorado are the only ones who can claim to be worse. 59 points given up to Eastern Washington?????

Banker...

Only Cal, Wazzu and Colorado were worse on defense than Oregon State the last few years.

Riley needs to dump this guy despite his loyalty.

Frost said his dream would be to bring Oregon's offense to Nebraska but with bigger bodies.

Chip Kelly invented a system and philosophy that just works (and is still working in the Pros) - Frost was lucky to mentor under that...and now he has the blueprint to carry it wherever he goes. It's not just the offense or gameplanning...it's the entire method of approaching football and practice, etc.

Helfrich is just carrying on...how often do you see that, where new head coaches come in and don't change anything...but stick with the old blueprint...well, you used to see it at Nebraska.

I've watched a few of Oregon's games this year and last year. Two major offensive trends I've noticed are that their o-line is getting bigger, but keeping the athleticism that made them so dangerous under Chip Kelley. I've also noticed that, especially this year, their RB is larger, they're using a TE in a Wing Back position to act as a FB on power runs between the tackles, and they're using some clever WR motion to run some triple option. Frost has definitely made his mark on Oregon's offense and it seems to be working pretty damn well.

Since my sis went to UO, I follow the Ducks.

Frost said his goal early on was to make the Ducks more physical...keep the speed but be like old Nebraska physical.

Oregon was never going to beat an SEC team for the title playing small and fast.

 

 

Personally could care less one way or the other.

 

I see a guy that wants to be here, wants to coach Nebraska, with no stepping stone mentality..

 

We will get more from him than the previous two.

 

He fits for me, that is all I care about. Make the players better, play the game to their strength, make it a team for Nebraska, not against Nebraska, who could ask for more.

Just so you don't make this mistake again.

 

It's..."I couldn't care less"

 

As you stated, you still care...

Correcting him is far more annoying.

 

I know it's annoying to be that internet grammar guy.

But...as I said, for his sake...just so he knows the difference in the future. It's not just him. I used to do it...and most Americans tend to get that wrong. Nothing wrong with a little education.

Personally could care less one way or the other.

 

I see a guy that wants to be here, wants to coach Nebraska, with no stepping stone mentality..

 

We will get more from him than the previous two.

 

He fits for me, that is all I care about. Make the players better, play the game to their strength, make it a team for Nebraska, not against Nebraska, who could ask for more.

Just so you don't make this mistake again.

It's..."I couldn't care less"

As you stated, you still care...

Lived in Oregon for 8 years.

Canzano is known as garbage "Us Weekly" troller up in in Oregon. The Oregonian is hurting like all newspapers...he's been try to sell his bit for years. He would rag on the Ducks when they were rolling just to get views.