grandpasknee

Take football out of it. If a corporate entity fails to perform, is the CEO on the line or worker on the line that gets held accountable? In the military, if the company fails to produce, who is held accountable? The PFC's, CPL's? No the CO, XO and senior NCO's.

 

It is the inability of this staff to develop talent. For example. This is year 4 under Bo. How many returning players did we have return this year at the skilled positions?

 

QB-1

RB-1

WR-1

PK/PNT-0

TE-1.5

KO Return-0

Cntr-1 (no back up time this yr either

CB-1

Safety-2 (former Blackshirt MIA)

 

Gilleyen moved to RB and lost, SJB 1 game and then gone MIA, Mitchell, Osborne, Cooper etc on D.

 

Prior to the season all the talk about depth on the line and nada.

 

An O line that now has 3 coaches.

 

Inability to translate on the field is a direct result of poor coaching, poor recruitment or playing the wrong kids. All of this is on the coaches. If it was year 1 with a new system/staff etc....I would assume the kids would make mistakes, but not year 4, game 11.

 

I even look at the hiring of Raymond as an issue. Coached CB's at Utah State last year. Look at their pass D rating. IIRC, 111th. That was the best DB coach we could find? Mike Minter chilling in Charlotte, sons in Lincoln. Ralph Brown, Booker.....Just naming Huskers to troll! I really think we could have found a guy with a proven track record of success. Couple this with the comments from Evans and Dennard pre=season and I have concerns. Comments from Carl about wanting a more physical DB play. The fact Denard was beat like a drum today.

 

Beck-RB coach who developed no talent or depth at the RB position is given the keys to the car. Again, maybe he wil be great, but there wasn't a more qualified person around. Hell game 11 and besides inconsistency, I have no idea what type of O we run. None.

 

Our D line has never played well against the run save SUH. Year 4 we should be able to adjsut to a team that simply lines up and punches us in the mouth or a mobile QB.

 

No, to quote the Who, the kids alright. This is the staff.

That is the kind of commentary I wanted. Hard to argue with your points.

Do we really need a shame ball?

I really do have an occasional week at work where I don't perform well, glad I don't have total strangers, with little or no experience in my line of work singling me out as "shamefull"

Hard to tell. Coaches do what they can with the talent they get. Bo has been consistent with his record, and tends to have a few games a year when the players just don't compete like they do the rest of the year. This isn't a rare thing for Bo or any other coach; you rarely see a football team that doesn't get tripped up once in an entire season, and those are usually done by outstanding top-5 coaches.

 

Is Bo a top 5 coach? Not right now, but he's keeping Nebraska competitive and learning, getting personnel around him he likes while also recruiting to try and handle a brand new conference. Okie State just lost to Iowa State yesterday... does that make their coach suck? No, it just means they had a bad week, and it happens.

 

I think you can blame either one and be correct, but you're talking about a grown man in his 40's trying to motivate and coach a bunch of college kids that want to drink and party just as much as they want to play football probably. Getting 19-23 year old students to concentrate for an entire year is clearly tough, otherwise you'd see every football team with 9 win seasons.

 

Bo's a young coach in the grand scheme of thing... coaches that consistently succeed tend to have decades of experience and be in their 50's or 60's. I can't get mad at college kids that have an off week, though I can get mad if a coach calls a bad game, or leaves his players unprepared too many times a season. Bo's doing fine, so are the players. This is an off season, and transitional season both with the offense and with Bo changing the defensive scheme to play against Big 10 teams.

 

You can be disappointed in the season, even pissed off, but don't go calling for the heads of staff when you're still getting 9 and 10 win seasons.

Great post, thanks for your input. I agree with most of what you've said. I'm old enough (barely) to remember early Devaney years when a winning season was a great thing, so I'm never about firing a winning coach. Just curious.

That is just plain funny...thanks

Bottom line is that, despite what Bo says, he is not a disciplined coach, and his staff and team reflect that. Some games they plan well, practice well, hold each other accountable and play well. Other games.... not so much.

Definitely agree....can this be fixed in your opinion? If so,how...more direct input from Tom?

Well, one of the problems I see is that we had to play 8 different teams this year than we had to last year. For the most part the upperclassmen that get the majority of play were recruited to play in the big 12 rather than the big 10, and yes they both have different styles of play so require a different style of player. We all knew, even if we didn't want to admit it that this year was going to be a transition year. 9-4 (if we beat Iowa) is not a coach firing type season. Last time we did that look what happened. We need time to adjust to new teams and new types of play.

On that "other" husker board I predicted a 4-5 loss season based exactly on your observation here. A new conference with 8 new, unfamiliar foes. I'm trying hard to hope that is our issue an not so much our players or coaches.

This was a complete collapse by players and coaches. My faith in this staff is about gone. The team is consistently undisiplined and we get out-coached on both sides of the ball in most games.

One of the things I remember most about Dr Tom was the ability of his coaching staff to adjust at halftime, especially during tough games. I just don't see that a lot this year and that makes me think your "outcoached" observation may be correct.

I am one of the biggest koolaid swilling fans you'll meet. I wasn't turned off by this game until we got down 28 points in the 4th quarter.

Wins like Penn State and Michigan State and Washington all make it seem like we've to the players on the team that can make it happen and coaches that can call a good game. But games like NW, Wisconsin and Michigan today make it seem like we have high school coaches and mediocre players at best.

Please give me your honest, un-biased opinions on where are problems lie. Logical, specific please, I'm not interested in hearing generalities like "Pelini sucks", etc. As hard as it may be right now, approach this discussion from a positive aspect.

Thanks

I believe that caboose was chartreuse....best philly steak sandwiches ever....only Pepperjax even comes close....mmmmmmm. Around 14/15th and O on the corner, south-west corner of the intersection, anglewise from the Denney Building.....now I'm hungry...

Huskers above and beyond any and all other teams always.....always.

In the past three years I've started following the Arkansas Razorbacks because my daughter and her husband live down there and are fans. It's a good fit because they are a decent team and seldom conflict with Husker interests.

Was a Houston Oilers fan for a long time (the Bummer , Walt Garrison and Earl Campbell)....have adopted the Saints as my son is a huge Saints fan. I was an official member of the Johnny Unitas fan club when I was very young...had the autographed pic (high top black football shoes in the classic throwing motion), membership letter and membership card....wish I still had that stuff now...$$$$$$!!!!!! My buddy was a member of the Bart Starr fan club....(dang I'm old).

Have been a Boston Celtics fan forever, never a fan of any other team. Never.....even though my mother has always been a Lakers fan???

We are a "just win baby" offense....

September 10th, 1977 - Washington State

I had just entered UN-L as a freshman after doing a stint in the Army. I was in East Stadium, 25 yardline (South) about 40 rows up. My second Husker game ever in person and my first as a student. I sat in stunned silence after the game while the place cleared out. I could not believe it had happened. More shell shocked than most of the Nam holdovers I had served with.

The next week made up for it though.... :-) Look it up.....

it will be michigan beacuse i think it will be a shootout, i love how the defense played today but the fact that msu had played an absolute brutal 3 games before us helped, and im just not quite ready to drink the kool aid on our defense just yet, if they show over the next couple games they have figured it out and play with the intensity and swagger they did today then i think we walk thru the rest of our schedule until the conference championship game, but if not we have our hands full with michigan, thankfully they dont play outstanding defense either and i think our offense has showed us that they can win us games and will outplay michigans offense and we win that game anyways

C'mon....drink the koolaid....it's delicious!!

My brother is at every home game (sells soda). He texted me that the entrance was one of the best he's every seen. Can anyone that was at the game elaborate?

My son is back on leave from the Air Force. He and I were in the NorthWest corner of the stadium and we stood the whole game and hollered full volume on every defensive play...and it sounded like most others were too! But there were some folks just on the other side of the fence that separates NW from North Stadium....they asked us to set down...and they weren't blue hairs..probably 40ish...I replied "Hey...I'm at a live game...I get to one game a year....it's a beautiful day....big game....why don't you get up and cheer!!!!" Then I hollered at everyone over there to get up and cheer...and most of them did...made a bleeping fool of the dude!!! Sheesh...unless you are physically unable to stand up....sell your ticket and stay home to watch it on TV...but don't ask me to sit down!!!!

Oh wow, that's sweet! I am hoping we (as a stadium and host) can start elevating our Gameday experience.

 

We treat opposing teams/fans with respect, but I'd like to see us elevate our band performances like other B1G teams, and bring on more fan involvement (positive involvement) in the whole experience.

Ugh don't even get me started on the bands half time performance. I know I'll get flamed by the old balls that I'm just too young to treasure 'West Side Story,' but it wasn't the choice in material. It was the performance. It seemed so lifeless, western Nebraska high school bands put more excitement into their halftime shows.

Now come on...that music really took me back to my days as a Jet in my small, central Nebraska high school....LOL

I'm in...will keep this and HP if we aren't kicked off there....I love me some Husker football chat...