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    Not quite the whole story Headley. He made Osborne the AD, not the interim AD. Then when Osborne wouldn't get rid of Pelini he started looking for TO's replacement without his knowledge. When Osborne found out he announced his retirement. Harvey is a snake in the grass.

     

    What proof of this do you have? I ask because this sounds like Osborne was forced out and Osborne himself has gone on record to say he wasn't forced out.

    osborne went on record saying the only possible thing he could say in that sitatuation. pelini was on record saying something different.

     

    not saying either is true, but i don't think pelini would just make that crap up, and i wouldn't expect osborne to every confirm it as fact.

    Some people here have trouble reading between the lines. Osborne was probably brought in to "right the ship" after the Steve Peterson experiment ran off the rails probably less so then he was brought in to save Perlman's ass from all the pitchfork wielding fans and boosters for making that hire, giving everyone contract extensions, etc. Then once things calmed down and Perlman decided Bo had to go in comes another puppet that was hired without consulting or any involvment by the current interim AD, who is a living legend in that place, and he gets phased out so HP could push his agenda without someone above football who could actually push back at all.

     

    So no, the Chancellor shouldn't be judged on Athlectics usually excepting that he keeps sticking his nose in them. That's why if Coach Riley ends up with a similar record here to his long history of mediocrity in Corvalis Perlman will need to get canned along with the rests of the staff and AD. Nobody is rooting for that, but that'll be the reality of the situation if the program needs saving again. Otherwise we'll just keep letting Perlman repeat the same cycle that's already kept the program down for over a decade now.

    Osborne was "probably brought in to right the ship"? Really? That's exactly why he was brought back in as interim AD after Pedersen was fired.

     

    Again, I'll ask why Osborne needs to be consulted for every decision concerning the football team? And exactly what is this agenda Perlman is pushing?

     

    Perhaps because he was in the job that was being filled and has a long history in athletics and had basically been running that part of the job in football since before devany left, because he built the thing to what it was when it was at it's best, or because he calmed the boosters that would've taken HP down too by coming back. Not saying he should have had final say, but you know getting his opinion of candidates during the process wouldn't have been a bad thing, even if it was ignored at least it would be respectful.

     

     

     

     

     

    Not quite the whole story Headley. He made Osborne the AD, not the interim AD. Then when Osborne wouldn't get rid of Pelini he started looking for TO's replacement without his knowledge. When Osborne found out he announced his retirement. Harvey is a snake in the grass.

     

    What proof of this do you have? I ask because this sounds like Osborne was forced out and Osborne himself has gone on record to say he wasn't forced out.

    osborne went on record saying the only possible thing he could say in that sitatuation. pelini was on record saying something different.

     

    not saying either is true, but i don't think pelini would just make that crap up, and i wouldn't expect osborne to every confirm it as fact.

    Some people here have trouble reading between the lines. Osborne was probably brought in to "right the ship" after the Steve Peterson experiment ran off the rails probably less so then he was brought in to save Perlman's ass from all the pitchfork wielding fans and boosters for making that hire, giving everyone contract extensions, etc. Then once things calmed down and Perlman decided Bo had to go in comes another puppet that was hired without consulting or any involvment by the current interim AD, who is a living legend in that place, and he gets phased out so HP could push his agenda without someone above football who could actually push back at all.

     

    So no, the Chancellor shouldn't be judged on Athlectics usually excepting that he keeps sticking his nose in them. That's why if Coach Riley ends up with a similar record here to his long history of mediocrity in Corvalis Perlman will need to get canned along with the rests of the staff and AD. Nobody is rooting for that, but that'll be the reality of the situation if the program needs saving again. Otherwise we'll just keep letting Perlman repeat the same cycle that's already kept the program down for over a decade now.

    It's ironic that your user name is methodical when your logic is anything but. What agenda are you talking about? If you're going to make accusations you need to articulate Pearlman's vision. Since you can't, maybe you should just stop posting or get over your feelings being hurt. The words in bold seem like exactly what you're rooting for.

    The adhominem attacks for anyone that doesn't go along with the groupthink on this site is why the posters with good info have left this site years ago. Mine's second hand because I've been around long enough to know who to listen to.

     

    And we're all Nebraska fans here, nobody is rooting for the team to take a step back. Some of us are just pointing out that should it become necessary to rid ourselves of another Peterson/Callahan level f-up, the problems will have started from the top down and that's where the cutting will need to start.

    Who were the posters with good info who left?

    ADS and PaulCrewe both used to post all the time. Now, not much. da skers along with a few others.

    I haven't noticed a drop off in super secret insider posts.

    Plus I'm never much for "cool" posters holding the board hostage because they have a bee in their bonnet about some unimportant thing in an internet board.

    Im not talking about people with super secret inside info. Im talking about good, well respected posters that make the board better when the post. Especially ADS in the recruiting forum (yeah, I know you think anyone who goes in there is stupid, but you gotta get through the offseason somehow).

     

    And I don't think its any secret that they don't post as much because of all the crap that went on during the season. Every thread turning into a bitchfest between boliever and boleaver...

    Well that's over, they could pull the string out and post again.

     

    And you said it all about the recruiting section.

  2. Must be something more to it. Ron brown is a guy you keep. Whichever position he had coached in the past that unit always thrived. Hell he could have been the WR coach and would have done just fine. Really disappointing.

    I'm ok with draining the swamp. The new staff isn't bound to keep any old guard around and frankly that "rule" is part of the reason why Nebraska is in the mess it's in.

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    Not quite the whole story Headley. He made Osborne the AD, not the interim AD. Then when Osborne wouldn't get rid of Pelini he started looking for TO's replacement without his knowledge. When Osborne found out he announced his retirement. Harvey is a snake in the grass.

     

    What proof of this do you have? I ask because this sounds like Osborne was forced out and Osborne himself has gone on record to say he wasn't forced out.

    osborne went on record saying the only possible thing he could say in that sitatuation. pelini was on record saying something different.

     

    not saying either is true, but i don't think pelini would just make that crap up, and i wouldn't expect osborne to every confirm it as fact.

    Some people here have trouble reading between the lines. Osborne was probably brought in to "right the ship" after the Steve Peterson experiment ran off the rails probably less so then he was brought in to save Perlman's ass from all the pitchfork wielding fans and boosters for making that hire, giving everyone contract extensions, etc. Then once things calmed down and Perlman decided Bo had to go in comes another puppet that was hired without consulting or any involvment by the current interim AD, who is a living legend in that place, and he gets phased out so HP could push his agenda without someone above football who could actually push back at all.

     

    So no, the Chancellor shouldn't be judged on Athlectics usually excepting that he keeps sticking his nose in them. That's why if Coach Riley ends up with a similar record here to his long history of mediocrity in Corvalis Perlman will need to get canned along with the rests of the staff and AD. Nobody is rooting for that, but that'll be the reality of the situation if the program needs saving again. Otherwise we'll just keep letting Perlman repeat the same cycle that's already kept the program down for over a decade now.

    Osborne was "probably brought in to right the ship"? Really? That's exactly why he was brought back in as interim AD after Pedersen was fired.

     

    Again, I'll ask why Osborne needs to be consulted for every decision concerning the football team? And exactly what is this agenda Perlman is pushing?

     

    Perhaps because he was in the job that was being filled and has a long history in athletics and had basically been running that part of the job in football since before devany left, because he built the thing to what it was when it was at it's best, or because he calmed the boosters that would've taken HP down too by coming back. Not saying he should have had final say, but you know getting his opinion of candidates during the process wouldn't have been a bad thing, even if it was ignored at least it would be respectful.

     

     

     

     

    Not quite the whole story Headley. He made Osborne the AD, not the interim AD. Then when Osborne wouldn't get rid of Pelini he started looking for TO's replacement without his knowledge. When Osborne found out he announced his retirement. Harvey is a snake in the grass.

     

    What proof of this do you have? I ask because this sounds like Osborne was forced out and Osborne himself has gone on record to say he wasn't forced out.

    osborne went on record saying the only possible thing he could say in that sitatuation. pelini was on record saying something different.

     

    not saying either is true, but i don't think pelini would just make that crap up, and i wouldn't expect osborne to every confirm it as fact.

    Some people here have trouble reading between the lines. Osborne was probably brought in to "right the ship" after the Steve Peterson experiment ran off the rails probably less so then he was brought in to save Perlman's ass from all the pitchfork wielding fans and boosters for making that hire, giving everyone contract extensions, etc. Then once things calmed down and Perlman decided Bo had to go in comes another puppet that was hired without consulting or any involvment by the current interim AD, who is a living legend in that place, and he gets phased out so HP could push his agenda without someone above football who could actually push back at all.

     

    So no, the Chancellor shouldn't be judged on Athlectics usually excepting that he keeps sticking his nose in them. That's why if Coach Riley ends up with a similar record here to his long history of mediocrity in Corvalis Perlman will need to get canned along with the rests of the staff and AD. Nobody is rooting for that, but that'll be the reality of the situation if the program needs saving again. Otherwise we'll just keep letting Perlman repeat the same cycle that's already kept the program down for over a decade now.

    It's ironic that your user name is methodical when your logic is anything but. What agenda are you talking about? If you're going to make accusations you need to articulate Pearlman's vision. Since you can't, maybe you should just stop posting or get over your feelings being hurt. The words in bold seem like exactly what you're rooting for.

    The adhominem attacks for anyone that doesn't go along with the groupthink on this site is why the posters with good info have left this site years ago. Mine's second hand because I've been around long enough to know who to listen to.

     

    And we're all Nebraska fans here, nobody is rooting for the team to take a step back. Some of us are just pointing out that should it become necessary to rid ourselves of another Peterson/Callahan level f-up, the problems will have started from the top down and that's where the cutting will need to start.

    Who were the posters with good info who left?

    ADS and PaulCrewe both used to post all the time. Now, not much. da skers along with a few others.

    I haven't noticed a drop off in super secret insider posts.

     

    Plus I'm never much for "cool" posters holding the board hostage because they have a bee in their bonnet about some unimportant thing in an internet board.

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    Not quite the whole story Headley. He made Osborne the AD, not the interim AD. Then when Osborne wouldn't get rid of Pelini he started looking for TO's replacement without his knowledge. When Osborne found out he announced his retirement. Harvey is a snake in the grass.

     

    What proof of this do you have? I ask because this sounds like Osborne was forced out and Osborne himself has gone on record to say he wasn't forced out.

    osborne went on record saying the only possible thing he could say in that sitatuation. pelini was on record saying something different.

     

    not saying either is true, but i don't think pelini would just make that crap up, and i wouldn't expect osborne to every confirm it as fact.

    Some people here have trouble reading between the lines. Osborne was probably brought in to "right the ship" after the Steve Peterson experiment ran off the rails probably less so then he was brought in to save Perlman's ass from all the pitchfork wielding fans and boosters for making that hire, giving everyone contract extensions, etc. Then once things calmed down and Perlman decided Bo had to go in comes another puppet that was hired without consulting or any involvment by the current interim AD, who is a living legend in that place, and he gets phased out so HP could push his agenda without someone above football who could actually push back at all.

     

    So no, the Chancellor shouldn't be judged on Athlectics usually excepting that he keeps sticking his nose in them. That's why if Coach Riley ends up with a similar record here to his long history of mediocrity in Corvalis Perlman will need to get canned along with the rests of the staff and AD. Nobody is rooting for that, but that'll be the reality of the situation if the program needs saving again. Otherwise we'll just keep letting Perlman repeat the same cycle that's already kept the program down for over a decade now.

    Osborne was "probably brought in to right the ship"? Really? That's exactly why he was brought back in as interim AD after Pedersen was fired.

     

    Again, I'll ask why Osborne needs to be consulted for every decision concerning the football team? And exactly what is this agenda Perlman is pushing?

     

    Perhaps because he was in the job that was being filled and has a long history in athletics and had basically been running that part of the job in football since before devany left, because he built the thing to what it was when it was at it's best, or because he calmed the boosters that would've taken HP down too by coming back. Not saying he should have had final say, but you know getting his opinion of candidates during the process wouldn't have been a bad thing, even if it was ignored at least it would be respectful.

     

     

     

     

     

    Not quite the whole story Headley. He made Osborne the AD, not the interim AD. Then when Osborne wouldn't get rid of Pelini he started looking for TO's replacement without his knowledge. When Osborne found out he announced his retirement. Harvey is a snake in the grass.

     

    What proof of this do you have? I ask because this sounds like Osborne was forced out and Osborne himself has gone on record to say he wasn't forced out.

    osborne went on record saying the only possible thing he could say in that sitatuation. pelini was on record saying something different.

     

    not saying either is true, but i don't think pelini would just make that crap up, and i wouldn't expect osborne to every confirm it as fact.

    Some people here have trouble reading between the lines. Osborne was probably brought in to "right the ship" after the Steve Peterson experiment ran off the rails probably less so then he was brought in to save Perlman's ass from all the pitchfork wielding fans and boosters for making that hire, giving everyone contract extensions, etc. Then once things calmed down and Perlman decided Bo had to go in comes another puppet that was hired without consulting or any involvment by the current interim AD, who is a living legend in that place, and he gets phased out so HP could push his agenda without someone above football who could actually push back at all.

     

    So no, the Chancellor shouldn't be judged on Athlectics usually excepting that he keeps sticking his nose in them. That's why if Coach Riley ends up with a similar record here to his long history of mediocrity in Corvalis Perlman will need to get canned along with the rests of the staff and AD. Nobody is rooting for that, but that'll be the reality of the situation if the program needs saving again. Otherwise we'll just keep letting Perlman repeat the same cycle that's already kept the program down for over a decade now.

    It's ironic that your user name is methodical when your logic is anything but. What agenda are you talking about? If you're going to make accusations you need to articulate Pearlman's vision. Since you can't, maybe you should just stop posting or get over your feelings being hurt. The words in bold seem like exactly what you're rooting for.

    The adhominem attacks for anyone that doesn't go along with the groupthink on this site is why the posters with good info have left this site years ago. Mine's second hand because I've been around long enough to know who to listen to.

     

    And we're all Nebraska fans here, nobody is rooting for the team to take a step back. Some of us are just pointing out that should it become necessary to rid ourselves of another Peterson/Callahan level f-up, the problems will have started from the top down and that's where the cutting will need to start.

    Who were the posters with good info who left?

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    People are so caught up with this shortsighted notion of needing to "make a statement" with a "splash hire". All that stuff wears off after the first kickoff of the season. We needed a good coach who runs a solid progrum and will get the most out of his players for the next 5+ years. I have no doubt we got that.

     

    I didn't want a coach that "made a statement" or a "splash hire". I think there a lot of us that just wanted a HC hire that "made sense". It makes me wonder how many people had to google "MIke Riley"...

    So, the average fan has to kow who they are for it to make sense? Hardly.

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    Before anyone says what Moss did was so horrendous, how many of you have mooned someone? Alot of you guys act holier than thou, so let the non sinner cast the first stone. Teenagers/college aged kids do dumb sh#t. But he did ghoose to come here, doesnt the university have some sort loyalty to him tongive him a second chance?

    I haven't mooned anyone, and this is probably the most ridiculous defense of Moss yet. Which is truly saying something.

    How weird, i was specifically thinking of you. Ok, so you havent mooned anyone. Have you ever done anything wrong? Nm, dont answer, i already know the answer. Its not about have you mooned someone, its about people crucifying him and acting as if they are perfect which you are a great example of. I spose you never needed a second chance huh??

    So, Moss was given a second chance....

  7. Before anyone says what Moss did was so horrendous, how many of you have mooned someone? Alot of you guys act holier than thou, so let the non sinner cast the first stone. Teenagers/college aged kids do dumb sh#t. But he did ghoose to come here, doesnt the university have some sort loyalty to him tongive him a second chance?

    I haven't mooned anyone, and this is probably the most ridiculous defense of Moss yet. Which is truly saying something.

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    I don't care what his "disadvantages" were. He had losing seasons in 3 of his last 5 years and lost to two FCS schools. That he is not highly regarded as someone to become the head coach at the University of Nebraska is hardly surprising.

    Thank you.
    Not examining the whole situation usually makes one look the fool.

    After all, The Sker was all too eager to point what disadvantages the previous coach had to deal with.

    I've not claimed Pelini had any disadvantages......nor do I have any concern for Pelini. I'm sure he's doing just fine in Ohio on a predominantly Nebraska paid salary.
    eichorst was willing to pay a lot to get rid of bo. and now he has his guy in riley.

    Well that and he's insinuating that this was some sort of master plan, to have NU pay him while he does his dream work at Podunk U.

     

    Classic long con. And we all fell for it.

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    I don't care what his "disadvantages" were. He had losing seasons in 3 of his last 5 years and lost to two FCS schools. That he is not highly regarded as someone to become the head coach at the University of Nebraska is hardly surprising.

    Thank you.
    Not examining the whole situation usually makes one look the fool.

     

    After all, The Sker was all too eager to point what disadvantages the previous coach had to deal with.

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    Well, if our admin handles this situation like they do most it will get totally f'd up!! Yes, I'm looking at you Harvey.

     

    Again, what situations were botched?

    Maybe hiring an AD with no previous experience at hiring coaches.

    I assume you mean Tom Osborne, or you've let your sad butthurt agenda walk you into saying something incorrect about Eichorst.

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    Was this thread created solely so you could crack on the personal life of Taylor Martinez?

     

    No not really. I am glad he and Bo are gone.

    I doubt Riley would ever force a guy like him on Nebraska for four years. The fact he is not even close to pro football says a little why NU was so erratic. The fact that our former QBs do not get a sniff of the NFL is one reason we are also rans in the top 10.

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    Coach Riley is looking to consult with coach Oz- very cool.

    Riley said that when he was first hired. It apparently hasn't happened yet. Interesting.

    Why is that so interesting? They both lead busy lives, and with the holidays it's even more hectic. Sounds like they are playing phone tag.

    It's been over a month. If you want to get in touch with someone, and they want you to be in touch with them.......well, you know........

     

     

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    I've talked to Taylor several times. He was never anything but pleasant, down-to-earth and engaging.

     

    I have a really, REALLY hard time believing Shatel's story about Martinez snubbing his daughter as Shatel describes it. I've watched Taylor give autographs before, and he was not stingy with his time. I've watched him go out of his way to make sure he treated fans right.

     

    I've also watched Shatel spew garbage from his bully pulpit at the OWH for umpteen years. When it comes to credibility, I'll take Taylor Martinez over Tom Shatel eight days a week.

    I'm not a scientist, but I think there's only 7 days in a week.

    When I met him he just seemed really shy. So from my perspective I might understand Shatel mistaking that shyness as "snubbing" her or whatever. Although, this is my first time hearing about this. I'm not ruling out the possibility he (Shatel) was just talking out his ass.

    Yo bro, you sure about them days of the week?

     

    http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/how-many-days-are-in-a-week-internet-steakheads-go-to-1677492703

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    I don't care what his "disadvantages" were. He had losing seasons in 3 of his last 5 years and lost to two FCS schools. That he is not highly regarded as someone to become the head coach at the University of Nebraska is hardly surprising.

    He's only not highly regarded by those afflicted with acute butthurt.

    While I can appreciate your tact in the use of the word "butthurt", I didn't write the article.......which certainly doesn't hold Riley in high regard for what he, and others, think Nebraska should be able to do.
    he was who shawn eichorst wanted.

    We all know Eichorst wanted Polo but they couldn't agree to a bold flavor compromise.

    I come with quite the demand list, kimosabe.

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    Whose job, exactly, was it to get those inferior players at OSU? The fact that some people use that point to defend MR is baffling. Inferior players with inferior record.

     

    Apparently context has no bearing in a discussion like this. Riley either did or did not do better than Pelini at his last gig, and both situations are 1:1 equal in every way, so if he didn't do better, that's a failure on Riley's part.

    Orrrr........

    We could recognize that Nebraska doesn't have a larger, better-funded, better-positioned D1A school in their state, who gets free or near-free marketing aimed directly at the demographic the two schools are recruiting year in and year out. Nebraska isn't in an after-thought city in this state with no major airport for recruits to fly into. Nebraska isn't dealing with the worst athletic facilities in their conference. Nebraska isn't dealing with the smallest athletic department budget in their conference.

    Nebraska wasn't dealing with most of the disadvantages Riley was dealing with at Oregon State, but let's completely ignore all of that, let's ignore that the PAC-10/PAC-12 has been a tougher conference than the Big Ten these past four/five years, let's ignore everything and just look at the bottom-line numbers alone.

    Because context doesn't matter. Right?

    Mike Riley was competing with Nike U in Oregon, it is very difficult for any school to compete with Oregon these days. Not to mention he was out spent in the PAC 12 by major schools in the recruiting pipelines of the PAC 12.

    Oregon state ranked 11th in the PAC 12 for athletic facilities which is one of the major selling points to recruits and crucial to developing your players. Oregon is ranked 1st. the only team that was behind Oregon State was Washington State. So that fact right there shows how amazing it was that Riley had any success in the PAC 12.

    Nebraska is ranked 2nd in the Big 10 in athletic facilities, the number one team is Ohio State.

    The best example that I can give regarding the importance of athletic facilities to coaching and recruiting is Nick Saban at Michigan State, between 1995-1997 his best finish was a 7 win season, in '98 Saban upset #1 Ohio State but still finished 6-6. His best season at Michigan state was in '99 where he finished 9-2 (10-2 with the bowl game that he did not coach), Riley had similar numbers at a weaker school. It wasn't until he went to LSU where Saban's worst season was an 8 win season. Today, LSU's athletic facilities ranked 2nd in the SEC where Michigan State is ranked 5th in the Big 10.

    So, you are giving a coach who had success against top ranked teams at a bottom of the barrel power 5 school better facilities and better recruiting pipelines in a softer conference than the PAC 12. I am not saying that he will be our Nick Saban but at least look at the bigger picture and give the guy some support, he hasn't even coached a game yet.

    This,

     

    The disconnect that the butthurt brigade has when they mew, "but Riley hasn't been any good since 08!" Just proves they have no idea what happened in 09 to now.

     

    Oregon seriously kicked into high gear.

     

    People say. Nebraska was stuck in schools like Oregon's wake, Riley literally got blown out of the water. He was trying to recruit kids to Ore. st when you literally land and drive right by UO when you fly a kid to see your campus.

     

    And people wonder why he was struggling of late.

     

    And now he is coaching the premier program in the area, with the money that he wished he had for the past six years.

     

    But whatevs.

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    You want a kid to shutdown the operation? Yell at him for making mistakes in practice. It's funny how coaches think yelling is the answer, yet most of the time it's the coaches who don't coach efficiently.

     

    I played hockey thru the college level & have had many different types of coaches. I could easily say I don't remember ever having a coach who didn't yell. The really good coaches did both teach & yell. They knew when they needed to yell & when they needed to teach.

     

    One of the problems today is kids seem very emotional these days. It might sound wierd, but I really think it has to do with all the stuff that is put into food & all the extra hormones put into milk & meat.

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  17. How old is Saben? Snyder?

     

    I posted a World Senior games record of a 90 year old man running a 100 meters in 17 seconds. How many of you guys can do that at 35 to 40? Riley looks fit, does quite a bit of exercise. Age hits when you decide it hits, or if you never prepared for it for your whole life. I know many people in their 70's 80's and 90's that still have a full life, run major businesses and do quite well at it.

     

    Let him die before you kill him.

     

    But you could be right, but know one knows until the time passes. I would much rather hope he does a great job, lives out his lifetime ambition at Nebraska. He chose to come here for a reason, not a great pay raise, not an easy job. He wanted the challenge and felt up to it. I admire that in him, see nothing wrong with his age, hell he's still a kid to me and some others that post on here.

     

    My guess is 90% on this board can not keep up with me for a day, let alone a week. That's with two heart attacks and both knees replaced. I weigh 8 pounds more than when I graduated from Marine Corps boot camp.

     

    Sick of hearing he is too old, sorry for the rant!

     

    I know you all hate blue hairs, but your coming, faster than you think!!

    I could run 100 meters in 17 seconds......

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