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Again guys. If you dont like Sipple's kool-aid? Dont drink it. If you dont like Dirk or Barfneck's sour grapes, dont eat em. If you prefer decent, logical, and honest reporting, I suggest.....................well, there's just no hope for you.

 

HuskerBoard. You get that at HuskerBoard.

 

We're the sane, logical filter through which local and national press coverage becomes understandable. They produce it, we analyze it, comment on it and make it into what it really needs to be.

 

C'mon, rookie. Get your head in the game.

I don't listen or read half the stuff Sipple does do. Not because I don't like the guy, but because I don't believe in a guy who admittedly tried to talk to a wax figurine once, LOL.

It's such a joke when the national media jumps in stuff that then don't cover day to day and pull crap like this out of their butt

 

@YahooForde: Re Pelini: Last coach with comparable lack of composure w refs and media was Bob Knight. He won three national titles. And still got fired.

 

How is he wrong?

Forde is pretty well respected, if I'm not mistaken. He shunned the four letter network a while back to work with Yahoo, and backed up Bruce Feldman when he got slammed by TexPN. Anybody who is willing to stick to their principles that way against TexPN is a +1 in my book right away.

That being said...

He ain't lyin. Winning games, titles and nattys gives you a certain capital that isn't bottomless, but it's pretty damn forgiving. Unless your name is Jim Tressel, and TexPN got it out for you anyways.

I think if we fire Bo we deserve another Bill Callahan. That is the truth. We will become another school like all the others who fire their coaches after six or less years. We still managed to win 8 and possibly 9 games with our backup qbs. Regardless I will back this program no matter what. It is not my decision.

Firing Solich was more than questionable. Not because of the on the field stuff, but because of the sleezeball AD that came in here, along with the fact that Frank is one of the more well respected elder heads in CFB.

Firing Bo at this point is almost a given - if he doesn't show people that he's trying to change some things (staff moves). He's abrasive towards fans and his own leadership, seems to have a problem with self-disipline (which filters down to players), and his hires don't seem to be working well.

Sometimes, one or two changes in the staff can make the staff gel differently. When Bo lost Marvin Sanders and Carl, it was the beginning of the end for him (if he indeed goes).

My questions:

 

If Bo comes back is he in a situation to succeed?

 

If Nebraska moves on, is there steady leadership to hire a new coach? (I am starting to have serious doubts here)

 

Does this whole athletic department need to look itself in the mirror and figure out its mission statements and find ways to modernize while maintaining tradition?

1. Yes. But only if a staff change is made at this time. Offensively, they've been up and down the entire 6 years he's been here. He needs to turn the reins over to an offensive coordinator that knows more about that side of the ball than, quite frankly, he does.

2. Not too sure. But - Eichhorst is the same guy who hired Al Golden down at the U, and they've climbed back into the land of relativity after their years of medocrity.

3. Modernizing is quite necessary. Look at Baylor. They've switched up their image, got a guy who they knew knows the game, and the patience has paid off both on and off the field. Heisman trophy winner, was in the NC hunt this year until a couple weeks ago. Why do places like Oregon and Baylor do so well? Because they know that flashy on the field sells. That being said - a bunch of the fan base around here would never go for those kinds of wholesale changes.

Hey man, don't hate me for using logic. Yes, Nebraska lost the championship game (I'm not arguing that) but they would also be considered a "co-winner" using the Big 12 as the standard which you set out.

What kind of logic are you trying to employ, my friend? LOL

When you LOSE the championship game, there isn't a booby prize. 2nd place means 1st place loser.

He won a share of the Big 12 last year. If that's slipping, I'll take it.

And last year Bo won a share of the Big Ten (since Big 12 doesn't have a title game, Nebraska would be considered a co-winner last year on that standard).

 

No we didn't win a share of anything. We won the Legends division. We lost the game to win the conference championship by a score of 70-31. Wisconsin won the Big Ten Championship. Plain and simple. You're grasping at straws here.

False Junior. My logic is just fine with that argument. Oklahoma was a co-winner. If the Big Ten did not have a championship game (a la Big 12), Nebraska and Wisconsin would have been co-winners.

 

Nope. If we didn't have a championship game NU would have won it outright. How you missed that one for your argument, I have no idea.

 

However, we do have one and we got waxed by 40. When's the last time Bob Stoops lost by 40?

Not sure if he's ever lost by 40, but he did get 29 hung on him a few weeks ago by the Ducks of the Dirty South.

EDIT: He did get beat down by Pete Carroll and USC in 2005 in the Orange Bowl, 55-19.

as long as Bo acts like a f'ing spoiled child, he will be a major distraction here....nice display in front of your recruits...Bo is a f'ing mess...

 

Maybe you'd like years of stupid questions? I sure as he'll wouldn't and love how Bo responds. I mean how many times are they going to ask the same questions?

 

It's. Part. Of. The. Job.

Maybe he should have responded like this:

In hindsight , the way Bo was acting suggests to me that there may have been some things said before the game about expectations.....like "we'd fire you if not for all the money we'd have to pay". Knowing that he's a handshake kind of guy and probably not liking the feeling that he may be dealing with a snake, maybe he purposely gave them the room to do what they wanted? All pure speculation based on how he just told it like it is today.

 

The team made huge strides throughout the year despite being injured almost everywhere. They play hard for this staff , don't give up and have nothing to apologize for...like he said. To me it's about how you play and I like this team and the way they play. I probably couldn't coach for two weeks because I'd be much more likely than Bo to tell them to kiss my ass if they don't like it. I won't even get into the reality show that the announcers and refs are trying to pull off.

 

Don't kid yourself..

 

Lack of money for a buyout ain't keeping Bo here.

 

In hindsight, it just appears the higher ups were giving Bo the rope to hang himself. I just don't think anyone expected Bo to weave the rope, tie the noose, throw it over the second deck of the lounge in North Stadium and kick the chair out.

 

Like I said...pure speculation. You gotta admit, it's been a weird day. Sure seems like something toxic is going on between the staff and the admin.

 

Hey, how did you feel after the two interceptions? Could you do me a favor and have all your friends call the ESPN sportstalk shows with the answer to that?

Can't wait for Bill King on Wednesday, lol.

Maybe they've saved 50 million dollars to pay Nick Saban 8 - 10 millie a year?

Bo shouldve taken the Tim Miles approach. Jeebus, that guy hasnt done a damn thing and the entire state would already lay down in front of an armored truck for him. I feel so betrayed. Bo's presser was really not that bad on a whole. Blunt honesty. Why cant he do that? But the one thing I have yet to see mentioned is when asked about all the fans in the tunnel saying "we love you Bo" and so, all he could muster was a snide and snappy "it's great". Meh. So long Bo. Thanks for rebuilding our program from the brink of toiletry, but it's time we both part ways and you can get on with your career as a DC or position coach in the NFL.

 

I'm done with this. Chalk another one up for the Bo-flippers.

You know, this is a good perspective. Sometimes the guy that comes in isn't going to be the guy that is THE GUY.

You have some point in there? I can't find it.

 

Bo, as a head coach, has lost games since UNL has been in the B1G by an average of 20 points per game.

My point...stop b***hin about the refs.

 

Oh. Because I wasn't aware of our losses? Thanks. Real eye opening stuff.

No - but it seems like you're more trolling the refs instead of getting back to the real issues. Refs are part of the game, and they're human as well. The ref that flagged Bo - human reaction to what was probably happening all game. Guy got fed up with lunatic head coach screaming at him, and he flagged the guy.

Notice Bo didn't blow up after that...LOL

Instead of people whining about the refs, whine about the product being displayed on the field. Cause that guy is getting 3 millie a year for that.

You have some point in there? I can't find it.

Bo, as a head coach, has lost games since UNL has been in the B1G by an average of 20 points per game.

My point...stop b***hin about the refs.

Six pages on a thread called "Bo post game presser" and not a single link to the actual press coverage? This is why I rarely come to this site anymore. It's all about the circle jerk and enormous over reactions. You can't get actual info here, just hearsay and innuendo. Good job Huskerboard.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=NU+head+coach+Bo+Pelini+after+loss+to+iowa

The pass interference was actually not a terrible call

 

Robert Wadlow couldn't have caught that ball.

 

Right......because he was being tackled by our defensive back.

 

It wasn't a bad call. If Bo is going to start using expletives and losing his sh#t over officiating, pick something better to meltdown about.

 

You're right, it wasn't a bad call. But the call that we didn't get in the first half certainly falls under the same category as that call.

Folks...let's stop worrying about the refs. Any time you argue a call with the refs, you're subject to the ref's call. All in all, however, should any call by the ref be a factor in this game?

The refs didn't turn the ball over 3 times.

The refs didn't get act like an arse on the sideline and cost his team 15 more yards.

The refs didn't call a fake punt that was woefully executed.

The refs didn't have 89 yards rushing in the game.

The refs didn't put themselves into the position of having to win to save jobs.

This is alllllll on the coaching staff, my friends. Bo said, "Let's call a spade a spade...." Let's do that for a second...

All you need to do is listen to the press conference after this game.

All you need to do is watch the offensive playcalling on the field. Poor RKIII was getting BLASTED back there...on senior day.

All you need to do is look at the losses since he got into the B1G:

The average point differencial in wins and losses since being in the B1G is right around 20 points. Meaning that when he loses, he's losing BIG (or B1G, LOL).

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<span style="color: rgb(48, 48, 53);"><span style="font-family: Tahoma,;">Remember that these are college kids, many of whom are on their own for the first time in their lives. To many, Pelini is a father figure and it actually says a lot about the team that the players feel this way.<strong> </strong>That concept is actually parallel to Tom Osborne with a number of his players so it should not be overlooked.</span></span>

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<p>I see what you're trying to say here, but please don't attempt parallels between Pelini and Dr. Tom. It's a tad disrespectful.</p>

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<p>Not meant to be disrespectful in any way. <strong>Since many fans compare Pelini's attitude to T.O's, I believe it is fair to point out the similarities in other aspects as well.</strong> I don't recall hearing any players in Callahan's days being as loyal to him... and certainly not to the level that these coaches have seen.</p>

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<p>Never heard that before. Ever. I've heard Pelini more compared to Bob Devaney, not Doc Tom. </p>

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<p>As far as Cally's players being loyal to him...there was this one...</p>

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<p>New Jets Guard Matt Slauson <a href="http://huskerextra.com/articles/2009/04/30/football/doc49f4d1829b34e824400196.txt" target="_blank"><strong><font color="#083f2c">spoke to a reporter this week</font></strong></a> about his excitement to play for the Jets and for his old coach, Bill Callahan.</p>

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<p>“I got drafted to a team that actually has a need (at guard),” Slauson said. “I’m going to get a shot at playing and I’m going to make the most of this opportunity.”</p>

<p>Crazy day. The kind of crazy day that at one point found Slauson having a brief conversation with his former Husker head coach, Bill Callahan.</p>

<p>Now an offensive line and associate head coach for the Jets, Callahan spoke briefly with Slauson, saying he was glad to work with him again.</p>

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The pass interference was actually not a terrible call

What game were you watching? That ball didn't even land inbounds,

Besides, I can't rightfully call Bo out on his behavior in these situations, I'm ten times worse, I get way more pissed, it'd be hypocritical.

 

But you are not a public figure and the highest paid employee of the state who represents the state and the university

 

It's irrelevant anyways. If we were any other program this wouldn't be that big of a deal, but no, we keep pursuing this hilarious idea that we need to remain the "class acts of football", well, it may have worked a while ago, but nice guys don't win anymore.

 

So are you saying that if any other coach in football got an unsportsmanlike, was a jerk to the sideline guy and called a call "chicken sh#t" in the span of 3 hrs it wouldn't be all over?

 

I would disagree, I think it would be just as prevalent if Saban or urban or anyone did it

I disagree.

And then there's Les Miles...LOLZ

There's only one Les Miles! LOLZ

Hey, we have a lot of areas to improve but RB has been consistently good. Helu, Burkhead, Abdullah...all these guys improved as backs for us and have done a hell of a job. Abdullah wasn't always the starter. I wish we'd have some of the success in other units as we have had with RB's.

Shouldn't Beck get the credit for Helu, and some (most) of the credit for Burkhead, if that's how you're going to play it? Why there is such a lack of depth with such perceived talent and so many fumbles, is what I want to know.

 

And why is it a guarantee our punt returner will be awful, no matter who we put back there?

Roy Helu was a Callahan recruit, if I'm not mistaken.

I think it would be bad form to fire a coach before we know if we are going to a bowl game.

 

Fire Bo:

1. Inconsistent defense over the years with some inexplicable blowouts against good and bad team. Apparent cause is usually schemes and prepartion IMO.

2. Turnovers high every year with no apparent improvement coming.

3. Sometimes poor special teams play this year particulary for punts. Some issues in previous years.

4. Bo's temper and loose mouth at times.

5. Loss of Husker tradition for excellence and very disappointing conference championship runs. Loss of the Blackshirts reputation.

6. Six years of mediocre performances.

7. Husker offensive line play has not improved to our standards and needs.

8. The game announcers remarked about his job being on line several times and also about his behavior. Lou Holtz's comments about the state of the program were not good at all. Perlman and Eichorst did not have favorable or supporting statements for Bo when given the chance.

 

Keep Bo:

1. Winning seasons every year.

2. Stadium is still filled every game and the fans still travel.

3. Academic excellence still good.

4. Keeps the team motivated to play despite some heartbreaking and embarrassing losses.

5. Does not tolerate bad or criminal behavior from the players or coaches.

6. The coach and assistants contract buyout would be costly.

7. Firing would send a signal to perspective coaches that you must win championships or get fired- temperamental fan base and revolving coaches door.

 

In the end, the new AD must consider if Bo would produce improvement next year or just more of the same from the past 6 years. Will a change be worth the cost in program funds? is there someone better who would take a chance after two coaches were fired after having all winning seasons?

 

My guess because of the money situation, Bo gets one more year to prove himself.

Maybe, I could see one more year. But I can't see this entire staff escaping the offseason unscathed at this point.

Sick of Damon Benning's delusional self-entitled complex thinking he's some white knight savior of our program with his insider knowledge every time we lose. Whether it's accurate or not.

 

You are sick of a former player that is level-headed and calls it like it is?

 

There are people who think Jason Peter calls it like it is.

 

And there are people sick of Jason Peter.

 

Opinions vary.

Personally, I think that a former player like Tommie can say whatever the hell he wants to. He's an alum, as well as a hall of famer that loves the school he played for.

I just don't even know what to say anymore. Year six and this is the product on the field. Sure, there have an obscene amount of injuries that we have had to deal with. However, this is year six. We should have depth built. Whether that falls on recruiting misses, inexperience, etc, it still falls on the shoulders of the head football coach.

 

The hallmark of the Pelini regime has been undisciplined football. How many nationally televised turnover laden meltdowns are we going to have to endure? It's like clockwork, almost to the point where we are becoming numb to it. It's embarrassing and we should expect more. We are 107th in the nation in turnovers/game, averaging 2.3 turnovers/game and that's not factoring in the 4 today. Last season, we were 112th in the nation, averaging 2.5/game. That is, in a word, embarrassing.

 

I've been off the Bo bandwagon since last season, but I do think that he is going to end up sticking around another year just because of the unusual number of injuries that have plagued this team. He will, without a doubt, be on a short leash.

Aint a team in the country that doesn't deal with injuries. Hell, Missury lost James Franklin for most of the year and they didn't miss a beat.

Buckeyes lost their starting QB for a quarter of the season and they're still undefeated.

“[The ref] said I got too close to him. I thought that was a chicken s*** call. Excuse my language on that, but I had never seen anything like that before. I’ve done a lot worse than that. I saw [iowa head coach] Kirk Ferentz on the other side acting a lot worse than I act. I didn’t see a flag come out on him. The bottom line is they knew they blew the call. They blew it. They blew that call over there on that third down. Everybody in the stadium knew it. They just didn’t man up enough to pick that flag up.”

 

 

 

This is the full quote for Pelini in the presser guys.

 

 

Tired of people picking out only one or two sentences to make things seem a lot worse than they are. I agree with him...Ferentz went off more than he did with less cause.

He can whine about that all he wants to. Difference is, Ferentz is a 3 time COY in the conference and has been to a BCS bowl game. Bo doesn't have any capital in the bank to get away with stupidity right now.

Here's one man's take on this...

Bo lost me after the audio leaked out. I was already leaning away from him, but that solidified my decision.

It wasn't the fact that he went off on the fans. It wasn't the fact that he used foul language (come on, he's a football coach, LOL). It wasn't the fact that he's animated on the sidelines, or any of that. All of that I can forgive, excuse, and even understand. We as fans are fickle at times.

But what lost me with Bo was the one comment he made in that audio that sums up the post-game presser today - and it came back out (not surprising).

He made the comment, "Wait till I'm gone, then we'll see where they're at." (para).

That, ultimately, will seal his fate here, one way or the other.

Is he a frustrated man? Yep, anybody can see that.

Is he being unfairly treated? Of course, but it's part of the job as the 3 million dollar a year guy.

Are many of the issues on the field due to execution, preparation, and injury? Stevie Wonder could see, yes, it is.

BUT

When you put yourself out there by saying basically that Nebraska is nothing without Mark Pelini....and that it's nothing unless you're here....you've driven the final nail in your own coffin with me.

Husker football been around for an entire century. Good times, bad times, lean times, strong times....it's been here. One man does not make a tradition. Those five nattys in the trophy case say other wise.

I liken it to something my Pastor says all the time about unruly church leadership that doesn't follow instruction of those who have appointed them leaders:

"If you think that the church won't go on without you...mess around and pass away. We'll wheel you down in your coffin...put roses on your coffin...shut that thing, have a funeral. We'll take you down to the cemetary, put you six feet under....throw the dirt on your grave and say Ashes to Ashes, dust to dust. Then, life will continue on WITHOUT you."

If Coach Pelini things we're better off without him, maybe we are. Maybe he'd be better off without us as well. But something HAS GOT to be done at this point.

Apparently, he had to one up himself from this interview by going off in the post game, LOLZ

Nebraska has a scholarship QB who turned the ball over 3 times today. Texas Tech has a walk on freshman and Baylor is down two scores now.