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Where was the conspiracy? Start with the post following the first occupooper link.

Keystone XL pipeline? Anyone remember that subject? I don't know who it was speaking but I caught just the end of a segment on KFAB and the guys was saying that instead of completely starting over with the route of the pipeline, they may allow Transcanada to change the route only through Nebraska meaning this thing may still get done in a somewhat timely fashion. Good news if indeed true.

LOL! I never thought I would see the day of conspiracy theorists explaining why a guy is taking a dump on the sidewalk! We need to get Mulder and Scully on this ASAP. Please keep defending the occupoopers, this is entertainment at its finest.

http://tv.breitbart.com/caught-on-video-occupy-protester-defecates-in-public-street First there were Teabaggers, now we have occupoopers, awesome.

That's a big win for Nebraska. Now get the new route proposed and done ASAP. If only they had done this in the first place!

If you want to do this experiment, use molasses instead of motor oil. Motor oil is a by-product of refined crude oil and is less dense then crude. Crude oil is so thick that they need to heat it up before it goes into the pipe and continuosly keep the temperature in order for the oil the flow thru the pipeline. That is one of the reasons that the pipeline is to be incased in concrete and buried deeper then usual. That's makes no sense to argue. In it's natural cold state is like molasses. If it is heated to move through the pipeline, it's still heated coming out of any leak and is still going to spread until it cools back down, so I don't get the molasses argument at all. The damage will be done by the time it cools off. To be honest, my biggest fear isn't the pipeline developing a random leak but I could see this being one of the easiest eco-terrorism targets out there. Simply digging down to the line with explosives would be bad enough. How hard would it be for a terrorist to learn how to bypass the safety sensors in the line, put some holes in it leave and see how many days or weeks it take for someone to find out. I bet it would be easier to do that then to learn how to fly a jet liner into a building. Put the thing in good soil, leave it out of the Sandhills and it's a done deal. BTW, can anyone answer me why there are no other pipelines other then natural gas that go through the Sandhills?

Fukishima Daiichi probably had a better safety record than the Fort Calhoun facility. Fukishima was subject to a much more severe threat than Calhoun... and earthquake and a tsunami vs a flood. Calhoun could have been a tremendous disaster with a few more inches of water. Regulations for the oil industry are generally very weak. http://www.csmonitor...-of-regulations http://cornellsun.co...d-stop-pipeline I see a Reuters report that says Canada is planning on selling its energy products to Asia after Washington delayed a decision to approve the Keystone pipeline project. http://www.reuters.c...&rpc=22&sp=true "This does underscore the necessity of Canada making sure that we are able to access Asia markets for our energy products," Harper told reporters on the sidelines of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum. "That will be an important priority of our government going forward and I indicated that yesterday to the president of China." Heck, it was only 20,000 jobs and we really don't need them....right? The pipeline needs to be built to move the oil, the jobs side of the argument isn't really that big of a deal. Almost all of the jobs are temporary and the workers are unionized and come from outside areas and move along the pipeline as it is being built. Sure it might bring a temporary boost to a local economy here or there but in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't mean much, not near as much as having to import that oil from further away locations and keeping fuel prices lower for a longer period of time. As for the the shipping the oil to Asia thing, that was said a long time ago. In the end it wouldn't have surprised me if they ended up shipping to Asia whether our pipeline got built or not.

http://energy.nation.../McCown_map.php This map previously posted explains exactly why the Keystone XL isn't going forward at this point. The fact that the proposed pipeline goes over the Ogallala Aquifer itself has very little to do with the resistance to the pipeline. It's the combination that the pipeline goes over the aquifer THROUGH THE SANDHILLS is where the fight is coming from even those on the Republican side of the aisle. I think that map is very telling in the fact that other then natural gas, there is no pipeline currently dug in ANY part of the Sandhills. The pipeline needs to be built but not through the Sandhills, period. I live so close to the current Keystone pipeline that I could put on my jogging shoes and run to it in about 10 minutes if I wanted to. I have absolutely no problem living that close to it either. At the same time, I absolutely don't want to see this thing run through the Sandhills even if the newer pipelines built today are many times safer then past pipelines. Why do feel this way? If the current pipeline ever had any problems the mess it would make would be minimal because of the soil it is buried in, even at locations close to water sources. Putting a pipeline in the Sandhills is a completely different story. If you want to do a little experiment, take a couple of two liter pop bottles, fill one half full with highly packed topsoil and the other half full with sand and then pour a quart of oil in each one and see how long it takes for that oil to reach the bottom of the sand bottle compared to the topsoil. Now imagine that parts of the XL pipeline is going to be dug in areas where the water table could be a few feet away from it....in sand. There is nobody else to blame than those who planned the current XL route. If you look at the pipeline on that map in SD they to decided to shorten the route and cut it through the Sandhills instead of continuing the straight path which in the end would have allowed it to parallel the current Keystone pipeline through Eastern Nebraska where the first pipeline construction met very little resistance. Had the developers of the XL chosen to do this, I have no doubt construction would already be under way. Whoever decided the Sandhills option was a good choice, well I hope they still don't have a job. The fact that this thing is going to be delayed is a bad thing for future fuel prices, no doubt. What bothers me is why can't they come up with an alternative route in a month when it really seems like common sense on what to do? Why is this going to take months or even years to get the XL done?