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I probably went a little too far with 10.5, but I’ll stand behind 10.8

Yeah, 11.20 isn't slow. What separates an 10.5 from an 11.2 is your ability to maintain top speed longer. Track stats very similar to John Gibson from the late 90's.

So I lied...no tap out yet. i could care less if smoked weed or stole a car. I certainly can’t speak for those that agree with me, but I’d venture to say most are the same. This program has a culture problem and it has for a while. I think it’s fair for people to show concern over behaviors that could perceived a chinks in the armor. 1. A player is currently facing charges in California for some odd sexting thing (I’m on record saying I think this is bogus). What really bothers me is that he still has that cloud over his head and then he puts himself in another poor situation. 2. A second player only a few days later makes a similar mistake. These are two high profile players and they are looked up to by both teammates and fans. If they are allowed to slip others will follow and that’s how your culture is determined. im not the morality police. I don’t make the rules and I don’t care what you do. But your thoughts on marijuana use are irrelevant when it comes the law and ncaa rules. Just a few months removed from getting worked by Iowa and missing a bowl game, two potential starters have weed issues to deal with. Not where I’d want to be just a few weeks from fall camp. That being said, it may be a good catalyst to set the tone for the rest of the summer.

I’m not sure what your point is..... you pick one one player and say “See, this is what you do”. Im tapping out. At this point My original post has as many +1s as I do eyerolls, so I must not be totally in left field. GBR

We can do that all day both ways. Bandares stopped stealing bikes too. A few days ago a similar situation happened to another high profile player. Is there a problem? I have no idea. But I think you’d want to make sure there isn’t one.

My mind could be changed. I just grow tired of meaningless suspensions for the first half of the first game. How about the entire team does stadium stairs X amount of times? Be the same if a player gets suspended...you’re screwing your teammates.

Dude, I don’t even know you. Let alone your marital status. The “you” wasn’t directed at you. But you you do sound like a helicopter parent.

Sound like a helicopter parent

Just like you’re only cheating on your wife if you get caught. I have never said he was issued a violation or caught violating. I said he is/was likely violating.

If you go 65 in a 45, but you don’t get pulled over did you violate the law?

GBR

Let’s just say that is accurate, which I believe it is.....how about you work your way to the top before you start ‘F’ing off? The tone will be set if this is ignored. I can’t even compare them to a 7 win program let alone an NC team.

You’re splitting hairs. I guarantee you there is no goodie on the team saying “Hey bro, we really should really skip Mellow Mushroom today” or “You should probably give that Hudl shirt back”. The NCAA tests you for marijuana and they all know it. I went to a D2 school and it was made very clear. It is difficult to build a program with individuals and I believe there will be discipline in this situation.

Still confused as to why everyone is turning this into a legalize weed issue. Last time I checked weed isn’t allowed in the NCAA or NFL. You can debate all you want, but his “possession” means he’s likely violating NCAA rules. Me before team for both him and Washington. I’d sit em both the first 4 games. Cant wait for the eyerolls

I don’t really think he will be kicked off the team, but Frost doesn’t seem like the kind of guy that will put up with a “Me over Team” guy for a long time. Teams win championships and change culture. You can have all the individual talent in the world, but going against the grain hurts the cause.