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For the 3rd time, hospitals getting money from the CARES Act has nothing to do with getting money for COVID patients. They are getting this money from the CARES Act for a loss of revenue due to reduced utilization as well as to help them ramp up supplies for a surge of COVID patients. And yes, hospitals are being paid for COVID patients. But they are getting paid through their normal process (Medicare, Medicaid, Commercial Insurers). The CARES Act has nothing to do with this.

I would tell him go home and not to come back. But I am not a business owner. Seriously, there are a lot of questions to sort through. Can you pull him to the side, talk to him about it, and express your point of view? Is he a good employee? Do you need that person to have an effective workforce? Can you hire someone else quickly (I hear there are a lot of people looking for work...)? Are you requiring masks or other safety procedures? If you allow him to not do it, how will the others react?

Personal Liberty!!!!

Read what you copied/pasted. This has nothing to do with them seeing COVID patients. They got payments for lost revenue due to people not going to doctors due to many/most states completely banning elective procedures in April. Also the payments were supposed to help cover expenses for them to buy additional PPE and train their workforce for the COVID environment.

Read what you copied/pasted. This has nothing to do with them seeing COVID patients. They got payments for lost revenue due to people not going to doctors due to many/most states completely banning elective procedures in April. Also the payments were supposed to help cover expenses for them to buy additional PPE and train their workforce for the COVID environment.

Jeebus… You are still repeating this today?

Did you read this article? It has nothing to do with hospitals getting money for COVID patients/deaths. This is about hospitals taking money from the CARES Act for lost revenue from people being homebound, just like all businesses were able to do.

Did you actually read this? That article is not related to anything about hospitals getting money for COVID patients/deaths. Its about hospitals taking money from the CARES Act, which any business was able to do due to loss revenue from people being homebound.

You keep saying this, but it is simply not true. Medicare pays hospitals the same amount for a COVID diagnosis of a Medicare patient if they survive or die in their care. Their is no bonus/additional/extra funds for a COVID death. Multiple posters have told you this multiple times. Either you are just ignoring it out of ignorance or you can not read.

You're welcome. You were presented with facts in your status update and your takeaway was "In the mean time there are probably some instance of under-reporting, and certainly a lot of instance of over-reporting (since we have a gov't incentive to over-report)". So yes, it did need to be reiterated to you that there is no "gov't incentive to over-report".

Nope. Medicare/Medicaid are paying for their COVID patients. Private Insurance is paying for their COVID cases.

This is false. It doesn't matter if a person dies or not, but Medicare (aka the government) roughly pays a hospital a $13k flat rate for that hospital having a Medicare member that gets admitted with COVID. I think Medicare pays ~$40k for an admit with a ventilator, death or no. There are no "bonus" payments that hospitals are getting for having a person dies with COVID. Medicare (aka the government) has a fee schedule that they follow for payments to hospitals/doctors. This fee schedule varies based on the severity of the admit/procedure, as well as a couple other factors (the location of the hospital/doctor, etc). If a non-Medicare person gets admitted with COVID, then that hospital gets $0 from the government. They would get the negotiated rate with the insurance company that covers the person admitted.

@NUance I am going to move this discussion here because that status update is going to get nuked sooner or later... If a hospice cancer patient gets hit by a car walking across the street and dies, should that death be classified as getting hit by a car or cancer? In your example, if she had COVID and it accelerated her death over what normally would have happened, then yes, it is a COVID death. And COVID has been shown to have heart complications, as it chokes the oxygen in the blood causing the heart to have to pump harder to get more oxygen rich blood circulated throughout the body. Also, your example is of a 50-some year old woman. If she is in her 50s, she probably is not on Medicare. So Medicare (aka the government) would not have paid a dime. And I am going to repeat this again. Hopefully this time you actually understand it. Hospitals get paid a flat rate from Medicare for admitting a COVID Medicare patient. If that person dies, they do not get any extra money. The get the same amount of money from Medicare if that person walks out of the hospital or leaves in a body bag. This is the same way that Medicare works for any Medicare member admitted to a hospital. They pay a flat rate based on the severity of the service. There is no "bonus payment" from Medicare for having an alive or dead COVID patient.

@NUance In case your status update gets nuked: It doesn't matter if a person dies or not, but Medicare (aka the government) roughly pays a hospital a $13k flat rate for that hospital having a Medicare member that gets admitted with COVID. I think Medicare pays ~$40k for an admit with a ventilator, death or no. Medicare (aka the government) has a fee schedule that they follow for payments to hospitals/doctors. This fee schedule varies based on the severity of the admit/procedure, as well as a couple other factors (the location of the hospital/doctor, etc). If a non-Medicare person gets admitted with COVID, then that hospital gets $0 from the government. They would get the negotiated rate with the insurance company that covers the person admitted.

Maybe the problem was hiring TT with the expectation of getting west coast DL to come? TT or no, we just can't pull west coast linemen on either side of the ball. It seems to be more of a institutional problem than a TT problem. Do west coast linemen leave to go to other Midwest schools? Because they sure as hell don't come to Nebraska very often. You would have thought with Riley's staff (and their west coast connections) they could have pulled some lineman from the west coast, but no. We got Robinson last year, but he had a Husker connection. So lets see if he is the start of a trend or an outlier. Since 2000 high school recruits: West Coast DL - Robinson (AZ 2019), Moss (AZ 2012), Peat (AZ 2011), Meredith (CA 2008), Toailoa (CA 2008), Yancy (AZ 2007), Smith (NV 2006), Suh (OR 2005), Carriker (WA 2002), Thomas (CA 2000) West Coast OL - Gates (NV 2014), Lewis (AZ 2013), Whitaker (CA 2012), Jones (AZ 2007), Hickman (CA 2006), Picou (CA 2005)