Not since 97

We're going out of our way to hand South Carolina the game.

You mean right after they went out of their way to hand us the game?

NU was the 3rd best team in Nebraska in 2007, but would've lost to the 2004 NU team by 6 pins, or 3 shuttlecocks.

They would have gave the 02 squad a run for their money, maybe

It also speaks to the need for patience and consistency. Devaney wins NC's in his last two years (years 9 and 10 I believe). TO wins 3 in 4 years but not until over 20 years into his tenure.

 

There is no 71 or 95 team if we go the "fire the coaches" route every 4 years.

Indeed it takes at least 10-20 years to become competitive and even make a run at the Title game. Just like Bama, LSU, OU, USC, Texas, tOSU, Miami, Oregon............

We never go after a punt.... When was the last time we tried to block one?

We don't play special teams anymore, we used to thrive on the block punt and return game, but Notre Dame had the 4 horsemen and OU had Bud Wilkinson too

sigh,

And, I am so impressed with my own posts, that I am now just ignoring what anyone else says. I will be content to just comment on what I have said. Nobody else is making much sense anyway.

 

Every time I get drunk and post that is the mindset.

I sorry that you have to get drunk to impress yourself...I fear that is the case for some of the other posters on here as well. Badgerfan is pretty much a troll, and the "Nebraska fans" that come on the Huskerboard to slam Nebraksa are really pretty pathetic.

And those same ones that slam the Huskers here are the same ones that made it known we were tired of being choke artists back in The Osborne days. The Boosters sent a clear message that it was getting tiresome getting blown out by legit teams year after year after year and thats when McBride and Osborne grabbed them some speedy crimminal thugs like the Florida teams had. Holier than Thou fans are hysterical and full of themselves in dictating what a fan is. Most of these now were probably the lowlifes threatening Cosgroves children. Seems it depends who the coach is, and who selected said coach as to the importance of pointing out the flaws and worthlessness of staff

Lols.

 

 

Do you guys think Papuchis will actually be calling any plays in the near future? If so I have one thing to say.

 

 

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

Papuchis was promoted and put in a token position. He has the title but he won't actually run the defense. Bo will be doing that.

 

 

The DL coach hire wasn't a bad hire. They have put out some very good lineman in the last few years.

 

It's amazing how little knowledge some people have. Quit freaking out.

That's what I was thinking when I read your post. No offense but, what do you know about John Papuchis?

 

I understand JP has been around Bo since LSU but that doesn't mean Bo is going to allow JP to start calling the plays the first year into the job. Carl Pelini seemed to do a fine job of that didn't he?

No

In the past six years Wisconsin has gone 60-18, won its conference twice, been to two BCS bowls and finished the regular season ranked #9, #5, #16, NR, #24 and #5

 

While NU has gone 52-27, hasn't won its conference, hasn't been to a BCS bowl and finished the season #21 #18, #14, NR, NR, and NR

 

I think its fair to say Wisconsin has been superior lately, our meeting in October kind of proved that one. I'm not saying UW is a national power, that would take decades and decades to happen but right now we are better.

 

Oh and I wouldn't say that I'm trolling, I didn't come into this thread to make this argument. Look through the previous pages and you'll see California was the first to bring up Wisconsin and yea I'm going to defend my team.

 

No one can argue with you Badgerfan, Nebraska has fallen from grace and will continue to stay there as long as Osborne continues to protect his "Legacy" with his terrible coaching hires and meddling with the program. I've heard mentions of the Huskers being in the second tier here, second tier teams don't get blown out several times a year, and lose at home to -.500 non bowl teams and then proceed to lose to a barely bowl eligible team they hammered earlier in the season. In saying that, Wisconsin has become a second tier team which is commendable being in the Big Ten which is historically a second tier conference in Football prowess. Other than an occasional tOSU National Championship of merit, mainly their claim to fame is beating a seriously weak PAC10 team in the Rose Bowl (Mich97, PSU94) and then claiming they should be respected. Nebraska without a doubt holds Brand more than Wisconsin will in most of our lifetimes but you are correct in the Huskers becoming Minnesota slowly but surely in our terrible coaching staff selections since 97. Mainly Head coaching and their buddy hiring ways, Gillispie, Cotton, Jamrog, Golf Pros, etc.

 

Even our fan base has become apathetic and cherishes mediocre-terrible performance at the sake of thinking 9 wins a year means something playing laughing stock schedules. We spent decades slamming the Big Ten for being weak and hiding in the Rose bowl as to not have to face the Miamis, Bamas, FSUs, UFs, LSU, OUs and even Nebraska of ghosts past. Now all of a sudden the Big Ten is supposedly a "tough" conference even though its at its lowest point in a century with the loss of tOSUs, PSU and Michigans top tier status so to brag about either Wisconsin or Nebraska at this point shows just how much we're both grasping for straws. Wisconsin is without a doubt on its way up but will never be competitive for the National Championship against a powerhouse team which is still something to cherish, we did from 73-94 and that turned out pretty good in 94,95,97. Keep your head up though, your headed in the right direction with a good AD and head coach! I wish I could say the same about my beloved Huskers.

Badgerfan, that post had no substance at all. Quit blowing smoke up peoples' rears

Actually it didn't and was ridiculous in every sense of the word

Pot meet kettle. You're black.

 

Kinda like Pelinis only had 2 bad games right?...........grain of salt instead of kettle IMHO

We get it, we will only win games when we have easy schedules. We will never beat teams that are actually good.

 

Not like in '77 (Osborne's 5th year) when we lost in Memorial Stadium to Washington State and Iowa State and went 9-3.

Or '78 when we lost at home to Mizzou and went 9-3.

or in '92 when we lost to a 4-7 Iowa State team and went 9-3.

 

Osborne won 9 games in 6 of his first 9 seasons. Fire Osborne!

 

All jokes aside, TO would have been fired if he was coaching in today's generation. If he didn't get the axe in the 70's, it would have come during the 7-8 bowl game losses. Thankfully, TO is the AD. This is why Bo will be safe as long as TO continues to be the AD.

Not likely, its exactly the same as it ever was, Tom was losing to National Champions and the occcasional close loss to someone he should have beat. Bo gets beat and blown out consistently by teams we should beat

 

We should've beaten Wisconsin in Camp Randall? We should've beaten Michigan in the Big House? We got blown out by Northwestern at home? We got blown out by Texas at home? We got blown out by a talented Virginia Tech team at home in 2008? We got blown out by Virginia Tech in Blacksburg in 2009? Do you think OT against your so highly held Mike Leach's Texas Tech team in Lubbock in 2008 is a blowout? We should've beaten the national champion runner up Oklahoma in Norman? We should've beaten an eventual #1 in Missouri in 2008? How about at Kyle Field with a slew of injuries and a officiating debacle last year?

 

There have been two bad losses in the Pelini era: 2009 Iowa State and 2009 Texas Tech. But that's it. You can claim Northwestern this year was a bad loss, but they are a talented team and played very well that day. You can claim Texas last year was a bad loss, but to do that, you have to intentionally forget that even with a poorer record, Texas is still Texas and they will always have better talent than us on both sides of the ball.

This is possibly the most hilarious thing Ive read or heard even from the biggest Tradition Coalition Ostrich, I thank You

2-2 the past 4 go's but they haven't played in three years and it doesn't have much to do with the UNL-USC game. UNL is not your typical Big Ten team and USC isn't your typical SEC team.

Really? whats a typical Big Ten team? And a typical SEC team? I'm actually excited about this responce

Im still waiting, my guess is you don't want to touch this with a 100' pole since your entire program has tried to emulate Nebraska for decades

 

I'm sorry what?

 

I didn't see your post but now I don't see much of a point in responding to it because you've proven it doesn't matter when others make sense, you'd rather live in your own world. For example, my entire program has tried to emulate Nebraska for decades? I claim two programs, USC and UW. USC, which has more to do with this discussion than UW does, owes Nebraska absolutely nothing as far as football heritage goes. UW, which I still don't understand why you brought into the conversation of a matchup between NU and USC has not been trying to emulate NU for decades. Barry, was influenced by NU sure and he's said as much but the idea that Wisconsin is some counterfeit copy of some mythical all-powerful NU team is absolute poppycock. We owe NU nothing. UW is far superior to NU in everything but nostalgic memories of gridiron games in some cob-webbed technicolor past. I've already discussed this at length in other threads and that line of thought is exhaustive...you're only trying to bait me.

Thats what I thought, you just say stuff to say stuff with absolutely zero substance to back up your claims. Your welcome I let you off with a "out" free pass of knowing you were blowing smoke up rears

We get it, we will only win games when we have easy schedules. We will never beat teams that are actually good.

 

Not like in '77 (Osborne's 5th year) when we lost in Memorial Stadium to Washington State and Iowa State and went 9-3.

Or '78 when we lost at home to Mizzou and went 9-3.

or in '92 when we lost to a 4-7 Iowa State team and went 9-3.

 

Osborne won 9 games in 6 of his first 9 seasons. Fire Osborne!

 

All jokes aside, TO would have been fired if he was coaching in today's generation. If he didn't get the axe in the 70's, it would have come during the 7-8 bowl game losses. Thankfully, TO is the AD. This is why Bo will be safe as long as TO continues to be the AD.

Not likely, its exactly the same as it ever was, Tom was losing to National Champions and the occcasional close loss to someone he should have beat. Bo gets beat and blown out consistently by teams we should beat

We get it, we will only win games when we have easy schedules. We will never beat teams that are actually good.

 

Not like in '77 (Osborne's 5th year) when we lost in Memorial Stadium to Washington State and Iowa State and went 9-3.

Or '78 when we lost at home to Mizzou and went 9-3.

or in '92 when we lost to a 4-7 Iowa State team and went 9-3.

 

Osborne won 9 games in 6 of his first 9 seasons. Fire Osborne!

So in over a quarter century, Osbornes ugliest losses equal to one season of Bos? Is that the point you're trying to make? Last years fiasco was beyond bad coaching, this year was a direct result of that.

What City was Bob Devaney from?

 

 

Saginaw, Michigan. You are welcome.

I'll bet his entire staff was from his High School too!

As far as I'm concerned, I am a Nebraska fan, and Bo is the coach of my team. He has shown throughout the past 4 years that he has the drive to make great teams, and I believe he has the ability and the knowledge to do so. 9 or 10 wins each year is WAY more than most teams in the nation would DREAM of having. While I hope someday soon to be hoisting that national championship trophy, 9 or 10 wins a year are very respectable until we break through that barrier.

 

Bo is a young head coach who is still learning on the job, and I have complete faith that if we stick with him, he will lead us back to be champions sooner than later.

BOOM! Exactly. +1 to you my friend. To make a run at the MNC you got to get to the level of winning 9 or 10 games a year. WHich is where we are at right now. I don't see why some people are so dissatisfied with this. Can people not remember the clustermuck that was 2007? Bo has the ship turned around and heading in the right direction now.

That or he fell into some the easiest schedules in decades, the Big XII including OU and Texas was way down, the North was beyond wretched and now we're in the Big Ten where the 3 Big Boys there are way down as well. He also was the lucky recipient of some great talent including one of the most dominating defensive players to ever wear a Husker uniform.

 

I admire your passion and was right there with you from 73-94-ish except we didn't get blown out by inferior sub par teams, half of those being in Memorial Stadium. This is becoming the norm. We just need to shut up, and enjoy the disappointments and bad choices. Rah, Rah!

So now you’re saying Kaczenski—the guy with the Youngstown connection—is touted by the media? That doesn’t even make sense.

 

 

No Im saying your post was as ironic as they come, I will spell it out for you slowly

 

you say:

 

Or random strangers listed in some internet message board thread because they are touted by the media

 

Then turn around and say

 

 

As for the Youngstown mafia, I could think of worse places to have a football connect with than Youngstown.

 

Never was there a more Media based propaganda job done by the Media than that of Youngstown being something special. It is one thing for sure, the home town of a bunch of coaches that get blown out in Big ( and small) games on a yearly bases. They have an uncanny ability to look promising when using others recruits

 

Hey, thanks for spelling it out. Sometimes I have difficulty with these things. So let’s see if I understand. You would prefer for Pelini to hire random strangers listed in some internet message board thread because they are touted by the media. And it would be better if his new hires were from a city with no apparent history or connections with the sport of football. Okay, I gotcha now.

What City was Bob Devaney from? Actually I would like to see Pelini hire someone competent for once instead of golf buddies and Barney Cotton ( and free ride his entire family at our expense)

 

Theres a reason he keeps hiring duds, he wants to appear as though he's competent and even an average hire would probably take his job about now

2-2 the past 4 go's but they haven't played in three years and it doesn't have much to do with the UNL-USC game. UNL is not your typical Big Ten team and USC isn't your typical SEC team.

Really? whats a typical Big Ten team? And a typical SEC team? I'm actually excited about this responce

Im still waiting, my guess is you don't want to touch this with a 100' pole since your entire program has tried to emulate Nebraska for decades

I could care less about a Nebraska Guy, Devaney was far from a "Nebraska Guy"

 

Just a competent guy would be nice at some point.......Tom

 

How do you know JP is not a competent guy? Do you know him? Does he call you at home? Do you have a headset? To coach with Bo you must think like the Pelini's! You must be getting inside the Pelini's head. JP is saying to Bo, "Blitz?... Blitz? Blitz? Blitz?" and Bo is saying "Blitz? Blitz?" and he is in his headset "Nooooooooo!" and you can quote him!

I was talking moreso about the mediocre coach we picked up from failed Iowa, Jury is still out on JP but from what Ive seen so far in recruiting prowess and on the field results, we are, and will continue to be a middle of the Big Ten Football program. Something I never would have expected EVER during my 50 years of rooting for the Huskers

So now you’re saying Kaczenski—the guy with the Youngstown connection—is touted by the media? That doesn’t even make sense.

 

 

No Im saying your post was as ironic as they come, I will spell it out for you slowly

 

you say:

 

Or random strangers listed in some internet message board thread because they are touted by the media

 

Then turn around and say

 

 

As for the Youngstown mafia, I could think of worse places to have a football connect with than Youngstown.

 

Never was there a more Media based propaganda job done by the Media than that of Youngstown being something special. It is one thing for sure, the home town of a bunch of coaches that get blown out in Big ( and small) games on a yearly bases. They have an uncanny ability to look promising when using others recruits

One difference is that with Frost, it was a discussion about a potential hire, while JP's hiring/promotion is now a done deal. All the complaining in the world isn't going to change that. Probably a lot of people (myself included) mostly feel you might as well get on board and support it even if you are disappointed by it. I don't see any value in getting furious about it.

 

The true difference is Frost was a Nebraska guy and JP is a Pelini guy. The negative guys on here aren't going to stop bitching until it is a Nebraska guy that comes back to coach. Same thing happened when Els was hired over Colman.

I could care less about a Nebraska Guy, Devaney was far from a "Nebraska Guy"

 

Just a competent guy would be nice at some point.......Tom

Zoogies,

 

When we hired Bo, we paid him minimal salary compared to other major programs. He has worked his way up the ladder. I truly think we have given him way too much money for what he has accomplished. I am not sure what all our coaches make, but nothing compared to Bama, Florida, Auburn, LSU, Ohio State and I imagine a host of other programs.

 

I think Bo's hands are tied as to what he can spend on the staff, and he is living with that. I hope that is what is going on. Pap does not have the credentials to be a top program hire. No one else in the top 15 would have offered it to him. I also think Bo likes the Yes men idea.

 

I am hoping this turns out for the best, but I still feel this will be the beginning of the end for Bo. No experience on this coaching staff, Bo does not have enough to the head coach and now he is training both OC and DC. He has not learned to delegate and that is the end of a manager. I am afraid he has made a terrible error. Not in hiring a bad coach by any means, but taking on more work when he really needs to be doing less and more of the managing side of the team.

 

Those guys get paid like that because they get results. Bo was lucky to even get the job in the first place, let alone expect to be paid like one of the top coaches in CFB, in which he's not. I don't think money is a factor unless it comes from TO himself. NU has the boosters to pay for anyone we want. Hell, we are grossly overpaying Bo right now if you are just looking at on the field success.

 

I totally agree with you on your last paragraph. Without improved recruiting, Bo will be gone in two years as UM takes control of the division and we continue to regress as a second tier B1G program. And hiring a guy who is known for "finding sleepers" from Florida that usually don't wake up isn't an improvement in the recruiting department. We had a huge opportunity and whiffed.

Bingo! Im feeling queezy

Coach Kaz's father is from Youngstown, color me not surprised.

 

Now we know the truth! Lately if you don't have a Y-town (Cardinal Mooney) connection you won't get hired onto this staff. If a man from Youngstown wants to coach he just needs to put his shingle out and either Stoops or Pelini's will hire them. Nepotism at it's finest.

What a failure, We went from bad, to worse yet again. Tell me we didn't bring the D-Line coach from one of the few teams we were able to move the ball on. Wow Bo must really be POed he was overlooked in 03, he's doing everything he can to turn us into the Youngstown Fighting Irish

Would it be better to bring in people the coach knows who have similar backgrounds and similar philosophies? Or random strangers listed in some internet message board thread because they are touted by the media? As for the Youngstown mafia, I could think of worse places to have a football connect with than Youngstown.

Whys that? Because they are touted by the Media?

I hope this now means our Offensive and Defensive coordinators stay here for at least 10 years and do not jump ship on us...

Isn't that almost a guarantee?

 

Nice! Bo introducing another new staff member! He looks more qualified than Cotton and Jammies! Hows his pitching wedge though?