4skers89

In my opinion, he comes off like a petulant child with a "it's someone else's fault" (media, fans) attitude instead of looking in the mirror.

 

I don't believe Bo will ever get Husker football to the point that we will finish a season ranked in the Top 5 let alone get to a BCS Championship game. A pattern has emerged through 4 years that I don't see changing with him.

He may not be willing to change his personal demeanor but I get the impression that he has identified areas that need to improve:

"I think we're close. I think accountability, discipline and internal leadership - those are the pieces of the puzzle that can push us over the top."

After reading this OWH article it seem like he is trying to develop internal leadership:

"It's been great," Pelini said. "We (coaches) are limited, but what they choose to do is up to them. It's part of leadership. It's part of an emphasis: Do whatever it takes to get better. To push us over the top."

Compton and others have been holding meetings throughout the offseason.

http://www.omaha.com/article/20120303/BIGRED/703039839/1048#bo-expecting-a-big-jump-on-defense

I think change is coming.

Welcome aboard coach! Love these little guys (emoticons, not the coach).

That's really dumb. Making contact with the head, hello concussion and more head injuries. Also, allowing a OL to get into your body makes it easier for them to hold you and get away with it. Our DL should be firing off the ball and using their hands to keep blockers off of them. It's no wonder our DL essentially sucked last season.

Unless you get hit under the chin or speared in the side of the helmet you're probably not going to get a concussion form hitting heads on the line.You really dated yourself with the head slap comment, that's been outlawed for a long time. It's probably a better way for someone to get a concussion than "head butting", which is probably a poor choice of words by Cam. I think they are probably being taught to make first contact with the helmet more so than head butt the guy.

 

If you look at any outstanding middle linebacker or D lineman you'll notice that there helmet is scarred up pretty good and it's always from making contact with the other guys helmet. We were always taught that when shading a man to attack the offensive lineman in the V of the neck in the direction we wanted to control. Essentially attack leading with the head up into the armpit just under the chin and your hands on his breast plate inside and outside, once you make contact you basically bench press them to get separation and control, and shuck him when you know where you need to go. The point of leading with the head is to gain more leverage. If you come in lower than your man with your head up you have all your momentum concentrated in that small area and it's much easier to drive up and through him and hopefully knock him off balance so you can have your way with him.

 

So jsneb83 is right it helps to create separation and reestablish the LOS, but I would argue *WARNING SCIENCE AHEAD* that you generate more Power (Power = Work/Time) by engaging with your head and then pressing the defender away because you have increased the amount of Work (Work = Force x Distance) done by increasing the distance over which the Force was applied (Force = Mass x Acceleration). Nerdy I know, but football is all about physics.

Maybe not a concussion but I remember this article http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/14/sports/14football.html?_r=1

Quote:

The idea that C.T.E. can stem from hits below the level of concussion — which are endemic to football and all but impossible for doctors to see or manage — is relatively new. Ever since C.T.E. in professional football players began making national headlines in early 2007, it has generally been ascribed to mistreated or at least cumulative concussions, for which awareness and education can be an antidote.

I haven't seen any recent results from a definitive study. There probably isn't a complete study since only a post-mortem examination of the brain can determine if they suffered from this affliction. Coaching head to head butting may not be wise. What do I know though? Many years since I played, I'd probably be smacking OL heads with my palm. I worry that future studies will show that football is too dangerous to play at all. Not sure what I'd do if I couldn't watch N play each fall. If I recall correctly, Teddy Roosevelt threatened to have football banned unless it could be made safer. Someone should start a thread on this issue. I'd be interested in people's own playing experience, coached techniques and thoughts. My cousin probably suffered some brain damage from football. He got his bell rung during a game and his parents woke to him trying to tackle the refrigerator in the middle of the night. He had no idea what he was doing but reportedly had good tackling form.

What's a clean program? I'd say we're clean if only couple or three--or even a handful--of guys get arrested each year. If you randomly selected 120 non-athlete college guys that's about what you'd get. A handful of arrests, mostly for DWI and sech.

 

Also by clean I'd say we don't have guys juicing to build muscle, and cleverly covering it up.

 

I think it comes from the HC. Arrests, bad behavior...whatever. That doesn't mean the program isn't clean, it means the players who are part of it get into trouble. How the coach runs his ship and how he responds to these incidents define how clean the program is. You could hand a principled coach a roster full of thugs who, all they do is get arrested, but it doesn't mean that coach isn't running a clean program.

 

I think the criteria you talk about in the second part is more important.

There are always going to be players that do something wrong. It's how the coach and administration handle it. Hopefully they do not feel so much pressure to win that they look the other way. I was talking to an Illini fan the other day and he brought up the gun incident during TO's time. I had completely forgot about it but it made me cringe.

stuff like this is also something I noted.

 

John Beckham decided he didn’t want Dorial to play at one school after he saw a coach slam a headset at the end of the game instead of simply handing it to a waiting assistant.

minor in comparison to Nebraska haha...

 

Bizarre. I wonder what these recruits are thinking. These two stories caught my eye today and I remembered this headset incident.

 

http://www.blackshoe...own-quarterback

http://sportsillustr...l?sct=cf_t11_a2

 

If my son wanted to go to TCU or PSU I would say NO!!!

 

I just read those articles. Just wondering why you would say no. I guess I would rather not have my kid go to PSU because of everything that has gone on there, but if he did, I wouldn't have a huge problem with that.

I don't want to derail the topic so I'll keep it short. What Sandusky did was horrible but it was one person and I wouldn't hold PSU to blame. What happened in response concerns me: The cover-up by the administration. The delaying of arrests until after JoePa got his all time win record (too much of a coincidence and shows PSU's influence extends beyond the university). More concern by PSU fans to JoePa's firing then children being molested. All of these indicate an environment where bad things were allowed to happen and continues to exist. Too much importance is placed on football at PSU. Most if not all PSU fans are more concerned about who the next coach will be instead of what kind of systemic changes should be made to prevent similar things from happening again. This environment allowed football players to beat up some students and not be disciplined. Want that to be your kid? Nebraskans put a lot of importance on the football team but I hope the reaction to child molestation and coverup would be totally different. I for one would be very vocal advocating that UNL clean house, pass laws or whatever it takes to guarantee something similar couldn't happen again and a change in attitude toward football.

No one insults our fräuleins and gets away with it.

I thought they were scandinavian. Or is that Minnesota? No offense meant. Lot of attractive girls in Wisconsin. Mmmmh breast

Apologies on my part for the tone in my earlier posts addressing 4skers89.

 

Welcome to HB!

 

My name is Bucky, and as you have seen I enjoy going to town on anyone who slights Wisconsin.

I was born in Wisconsin, so I can say this... My only bash against Wisconsin are their really large people. No , not like walkon Offensive lineman material, but too much cheese, brats and beer large. Everytime I go back to visit it is very apparent. Oh yeah, there is also the issue of the trophy cases of Wisconsin missing a certain trophy as well. No...we will not share...

Maybe you shouldn't bash family members on some random sports board! Maybe your family will stop inviting you back after these comments!

The cheese, brats and beer seem to produce some large chesticles though. Mmmmh breast . Not a slight on Wisconsin women but what is up with the gap in the front teeth? Worked with a girl from Wisconsin and noticed several while attending the game. Is it the brats and cheese causing this or hereditary or is it just my imagination?

okay how tough is the schedule next year? ( If we were not in the big ten?) Wisconsin will be down, msu will be down. Michigan will probally come in as a even match or a 2 point favorite. Osu will definitely be favored next year. PSU is in shambles. Remember how we ripped on the big ten for being weak and now we call it tough? Also for you guys that say spell check. I graduated 419 out of 436 in my highschool class. So yes I rode the little bus. I flunked 7th grade. ( Blessed sacrament nuns/ them bitches) The 90s are not coming back. So we might as well get on the big ten ( we play for the roseses band wagon) and accept it or go for broke and go for the national titles and hope to be there at the end of the race is all. Geuss my 20s spoiled me. hell my teens did also. I think nebraska lost what 3 national tilte games in the 80s?

You crack me up (damn nuns) and wanted to give you an encouraging reply. For being a rock in high school you put together a thought provoking post and make some good points. Forget the spell checking, keep slinging the words. Post is not a friggin term paper.

I don't think it is necessary to schedule a difficult non-conference schedule in this new world of parity. Few teams go undefeated. If we are undefeated and go through the big ten unscathed, it should be enough to end up in the NC/playoff. Look at the final standings this year. 3 B1G teams in top 15. Although they aren't considered "elite", beating them would get us there. Funny how our perception of the big ten changed.

There does seem to be a problem in our new conference. I remember Bielama saying that he didn't think they were NC contenders early in the season. Sheesh talk about self fulfilling prophesy. We can help break the B1G out of this Rose Bowl malaise and develop some swagger. Let's stop thinking that there are "elite" teams. Parity is a 2 way street. Our 3 and 4 star recruits can beat the 4 and 5 star recruits of other teams. Rather than be dissapointed in a bowl game at the end of season let's start scheduling them early before hitting the grind of the B1G. If that is what it will take then let's go for it. Maybe not in '12 .... but after getting better acclimated (but not yet assimilated) to our new conference in '13. Let's not settle to be a middle of the pack team hoping to make the rose bowl. Rose bowl this year and NC the next. BELIEVE. GBR!!

Getting woozy on my soap box... need more kool-aid.

stuff like this is also something I noted.

 

John Beckham decided he didn’t want Dorial to play at one school after he saw a coach slam a headset at the end of the game instead of simply handing it to a waiting assistant.

minor in comparison to Nebraska haha...

Bizarre. I wonder what these recruits are thinking. These two stories caught my eye today and I remembered this headset incident.

http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2012/2/17/2803921/penn-state-junior-day-interview-boeing-brown-quarterback

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/ncaa/02/16/tcu.football.recruiting/index.html?sct=cf_t11_a2

If my son wanted to go to TCU or PSU I would say NO!!!

But six assistant coaches? Have you ever heard of that many coaches bailing out of a successful program before? I haven't.

 

Where there's smoke there's fire. That's all I'm saying. I think it's at least partially due to Bielema's douchebaggeryness. (Hey! I invented a word: "douchebaggeryness")

My thoughts too. I asked a coworker who's father is a booster. He said that they just left for better jobs. I even mentioned that I had heard Bielama is a butthead. He hadn't heard anything to that effect or that it caused friction within the coaching staff. I'm wondering where this perception that he is a douchebag comes from. He seems like a decent, well spoken bloke during interviews.

How about a pic of one from '82 team?

“If we get wind that a booster is employing student-athletes or an agent is too connected we’ll just go and watch foot traffic,” Roe Lach said. “It’s not like we’re out there stalking people.

Could be a problem for us.

Kudos to whoever is in charge of the Husker breeding program! I see Mike Sr. was 5' 10". Keep up the good work finding suitable mates!! Anyone have the Banderas measurables for comparison?

Your thinking of Shawn bonderman. He committed got injured(knee or shoulder) the coaches told him early on that part of him keeping his offer with the injury had terms of keeping in shape rehabbing. Shawn didn't hold up his end of the bargain and a week or two before signing day with out an offer

 

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i think it was a lot more than that. pretty sure the kid or his coach or both lied about his size and then both ducked NU's calls for a long period of time. i don't recall an injury having anything to do with it. also pretty sure he knew where he stood with us long before signing day.

We offer sight unseen? I've never paid attention to recruiting until this year so I don't know. I noticed a lot of offers already for next year but assumed one of the coaches had met them face to face.

Also correct. Wisconsin = Colorado (without a NC) and I have the proof!!!

 

Colorado's fan base made Colorado what it is.

 

Wisconsin is not Colorado.

 

Based on my analysis, Wisconsin will have a few 4 or 5 loss seasons.... followed by a coaching change.

 

Does that analysis also hold for the Huskers?

 

I think that's the main reason Wisconsin is being compared to Colorado sometimes. Have you seen their students at the game? It's very Colorado like.

 

And since we've had 4 straight 4 loss seasons I'd say it doesn't hold true, and I find it impossible to believe Wisconsin would fire Brett w/ a 4 or 5 loss season. Couple 6 loss seasons in a row...maybe. But that holds true for almost every BCS team.

 

My have our standards dropped... four losses during the Osborne years was a terrible season.

When I wrote 3-4 losses I was thinking of the old days and what that would mean for a Nebraska team. 5-7 losses probably makes more sense. My comparison was not based on fan behavior directly but more in the logic that history repeats itself. I'm not completely up on the history of Colorado and Wisconsin but to quote Dr. Tom they are teams enjoying "recent success". I don't remember worrying about losing to Colorado prior to McCartney and as I understand it Wisconsin was not good prior to the arrival of Alvarez. They probably occasionally had good teams but they weren't perennially in the national title hunt. Given the same starting point, I predict Wisconsin will follow the same path. Their fans will play into it indirectly by forcing out a good coach during some down years.

While watching the OSU game I got the feeling they really wanted to beat us. I think no matter how bad OSU is they will always bring their best game against Nebraska. I'm sure winning against Nebraska isn't as important as beating Michigan. Different motivation though. They hate Michigan but probably respect our program so beating us means a lot to them. I don't think Texas hated us but they definitely seemed to play unusually good against us. I attended the Michigan game and I got the impression that they expected to beat us and we were more of an annoyance along the way to playing OSU.

I would say the team that will take over as our Texas will be Ohio State. I think we got pretty fortunate this year with Miller getting hurt and now that they have Urban Meyer it's going to be a dogfight every single year, not to mention how tough it will be to win in the horseshoe.

 

Michigan is going to take over for Oklahoma in my book. I just see that turning into a really fun game every year with mutual respect between the two historic programs. I can tell already that "Hail to the Victors" is going to rank right up there with "Boomer Sooner" on my list of most hated fight songs though.

 

You could say that Northwestern is going to fill in for Iowa State as that pesky team in our division that is upset prone.

 

The list goes on, but to answer your question, I think Ohio State is going to give us problems in the future.

I agree with this post. good stuff

Good analysis

I agree with Ohio State. For me, Wisconsin is going to be our new Oklahoma. Colorado. They are so much like us and there is that 'Barry Alvarez was a former Husker' thang too. But I could see Michigan being the new OU as well. I also agree with the 'Northwestern=Iowa State' as the pesky team that we will have to watch out for every year.

IF we get to beating them often - based on fan behavior only

Also correct. Wisconsin = Colorado (without a NC) and I have the proof!!!:

_______Wisconsin____________________________Colorado______________

1990_______1-10______0-8____Alvarez____________________________

1991_______5-6_______2-6______________1982_______2-8-1___1-5-1__McCartney

1992_______5-6_______3-5______________1983_______4-7_____2-5_______

1993_______10-1-1____6-1-1____________1984_______1-10____1-6_______

1994_______7-4-1_____4-3-1____________1985_______7-5_____4-3_______

1995_______4-5-2_____3-4-1____________1986_______6-6_____6-1_______

1996_______8-5_______3-5______________1987_______7-4_____4-3_______

1997_______8-5_______5-3______________1988_______8-4_____4-3_______

1998_______11-1______7-1______________1989_______11-1____7-0_______

1999_______10-2______7-1______________1990_______11-1-1__7-0_______

2000_______9-4_______4-4______________1991_______8-3-1___6-0-1_______

2001_______5-7_______3-5______________1992_______9-2-1___5-1-1_______

2002_______8-6_______2-6______________1993_______8-3-1___5-1-1_______

2003_______7-6_______4-4______________1994_______11-1____6-1_______

2004_______9-3_______6-2______________1995_______11-2____5-2___Neuheisel

2005_______10-3______5-3______________1996_______10-2____7-1_______

2006_______12-1______7-1__Bielema_____1997_______0-5_____0-7_______

2007_______9-4_______5-3______________1998_______4-4_____8-4_______

2008_______7-6_______3-5______________1999_______5-3_____7-5___Barnett

2009_______10-3______5-3______________2000_______3-8_____3-5_______

2010_______11-2______7-1______________2001_______10-3____7-1_______

2011_______11-3______6-2______________2002_______9-5_____7-1_______

______________________________________2003_______5-7_____3-5_______

______________________________________2004_______8-5_____4-4_______

______________________________________2005_______7-5_____5-3_______

______________________________________2006_______2-10____2-6____Hawkins

______________________________________2007_______6-7_____4-4_______

______________________________________2008_______5-7_____2-6_______

______________________________________2009_______3-9_____2-6_______

______________________________________2010_______5-7_____2-6_______

Based on my analysis, Wisconsin will have a few 4 or 5 loss seasons.... followed by a coaching change.

Joliet calls it a double wing. http://jolietcatholicfootball.com/content.asp?CID=125991 Been around a long time, not used much anymore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_(American_football) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_wing

Apologies on my part for the tone in my earlier posts addressing 4skers89.

 

Welcome to HB!

 

My name is Bucky, and as you have seen I enjoy going to town on anyone who slights Wisconsin.

Bucky, No problem. I figured out long ago that it is better to ignore people like you. My slight on Wisconsin was based on personal observations while attending the game at Madison. I have no problem with people being exuberant for their team. For any other Husker fans that were there, I hope there is no reciprocation toward Wisconsin fans in Lincoln. It's probably better to keep your distance from them unless they exhibit better class then your typical Badger fan. I completely agree that the atmosphere in Lincoln is a lot different than Madison. You should attend a game in Lincoln. Would be educational.

Re-shun

I was sad that we left the Big XII and the love that the pollsters seemed to give versus the B1G. I was just getting used to the teams. Before each game I already knew their style of play, the players and how well we would match up with them. Usually the score was the only surprise. I didn't know what to expect before each game this year. With 1 year experience we should feel more comfortable. The coaching staff will make the appropriate adjustments on defense and our offense will improve. I don't expect to see the blowout losses again.

I'm looking forward to competing with a couple of teams on the all time win list that are in the B1G. I always wondered if Texas had their eye on the list when they played us. Seemed like they always played better against us. We need to raise our level of play to provide many close games/ upsets with Ohio State and Michigan. Its fun hashing over these games with fans of teams that have winning traditions- probably because of their decorum. I had a great conversation at an airport with an tOSU fan shortly after we played them. He wasn't an tOSU grad, a blue collar retiree that was a huge fan and had excellent insight to their program. He clued me in that they could possibly get Urban Meyer as coach. Unfortunately I may be moving out of the midwest before the Ohio State game. Would love to go to the horseshoe for a close, competitive game that we will win. GBR!

I thought it was a bad move initially. There is a difference in people from the midwest compared to people in the plains states. I wondered how Nebraskans would like asshats from Chicago invading Lincoln. Going to Wisconsin game confirmed this. Not so bad at Michigan. I've spent a lot of time in Columbus, OH and southern Indiana for work and generally came away with a good impression of the people. I think we'll enjoy playing Ohio State. When Colorado left I thought it was a good thing for the XII since I didn't hear anything good about their fans.

As they say in Madison, "If you can't take the heat get the f#*k out of our kitchen...but leave your beer"

Not exactly helping the perception there are ya

People come to games in Madison for the party, that's well known throughout the country...and at these parties we tend to drink a little and drinking is known to lead to asshatery. If you know this, as most football fans do, still choose to visit Madison and then whine about it I can't really feel bad for you.

 

As far as perception, I don't really care and it doesn't really matter what a few, new-to-the-conference-Husker fans think. Both football teams in the state are widely respected as having some of the best gameday experiences around and that won't change anytime soon.

WOW!

wow

I thought it was a bad move initially. There is a difference in people from the midwest compared to people in the plains states. I wondered how Nebraskans would like asshats from Chicago invading Lincoln. Going to Wisconsin game confirmed this. Not so bad at Michigan. I've spent a lot of time in Columbus, OH and southern Indiana for work and generally came away with a good impression of the people. I think we'll enjoy playing Ohio State. When Colorado left I thought it was a good thing for the XII since I didn't hear anything good about their fans.

They play very tough teams actually and they always have, they have been running that offense for years over there.

I thought it was an interesting offense. Do you know what they call it? At first I thought it would be easy to defend against since running plays to the right would start with Ty standing up and pivoting but they mix it up with the double handoffs and play action from same formation.

I'm not sure it was a cupcake game. He rushed for 515 yards in Class 5A state championship against Joliet Catholic. This year's WR commit Jordan Wetercamp (Lombard Montini) had 353 yards receiving in that game and won 70-45. Probably more of a case of lack of defense. http://ihsa.org/SportsActivities/BoysFootball/StateSeriesInformationResults.aspx?url=/data/fb/5box31.htm

Funky formations with 2 RBs starting close to the line. Seem to run a lot of different plays from it including PA. The plays looked similar but sometimes they had 2 handoffs.