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I read somewhere that Michigan and Wisconsin are the top B1G schools in terms of research dollars, and JHU doubles their $$ amount. That doesn't make JHU better or not want to be part of the CIC. They just get more more research $$ than anyone else. This may give people a false impression that they are #1, but its only one measure.
I thought I read that JHU membership is for 5 years at which time they can get out if they wish. I suspect CIC membership would only happen after they commit for good.
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The bigger deal whether JH joins the CIC....big research bucks.
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People sure are hyper sensitive these days. He was just trying to joke around. Sometimes jokes bomb or aren't taken well...shouldn't be a big deal.
I retract my statement. Now he's an idiot. They released more audio....
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/77718/audio-reveals-more-gee-controversy
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People sure are hyper sensitive these days. He was just trying to joke around. Sometimes jokes bomb or aren't taken well...shouldn't be a big deal.
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Did you see who Rutgers drew? OSU, Mich, MSU, PSU, NU and Wiscy. Ouch. Check out this article from sbnation.
I think the author forgot that NU was in the western division or maybe he forgot they are even in the Big Ten.
"With the new East-West divisions in the B1G, each team plays every division team, plus two cross overs from the other division.
Who did Maryland draw in 2014? Iowa (home) and at Wisconsin, arguably the two best programs in the Western division."
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OUCH !!!!!!!
Not really. Finding room for two patsies a year to have more home games is pretty common place
among the conference affiliated teams. Everyone wants 6 mil from home games. Pay the patsies1 mil and pocket 5.
Hopefully the Big 10 keeps its word about not playing FCS anymore.
Not sure when that will start....I guess 2016.
As Hoke just said, one of the great things about Michigan is playing ND, OSU and MSU. Only two left now for a long time (2020 maybe).
I think Michigan is bummed about losing the ND series. Arkansas, Oregon St, VT, Utah, Colorado, BYU, Cincy, Uconn...
they just don't carry the same excitement. I for one am bummed about not being able to look forward to an ND match up early in the season.
Maybe in a bowl game.
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They had already scheduled two hiatus in little over a decade, effectively ending it as a regular game. Michigan had been making a lot of statements, officially or through their surrogates, that the ND series was going to come to an end. My favorite being
I have to have seven home games a year. If you think about a nine-game Big Ten schedule, there will be one year I have four home games and one year I have five. In the year that I have four, I have to play every one of my non-conference games at home, so I can't be in a world where I have four Big Ten home games and I'm supposed to play Notre Dame (in South Bend). I can't live in that world. Those are the kinds of issues I have to deal with.
http://collegefootba...gan-rivalry.htm
They knew they couldn't live in a world with the 9 game conference schedule that Michigan/OSU had to approve of.
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And they credit for all 3 of those wins. When dealing with Blue tinted statistics, remember to ask about the record since a TD was worth 6 points (1910). In this case the series remains 15-15-1.
This is funny. The stats are from Wiki, but feel free to spin it however you like. And last I heard Swarbrick gave Brandon the 'dear john' letter just before the kick-off of last years game....not the other way around. I doubt ND quit because Michigan wants 7 homes for the money and they wanted to help. Instead of ND, Michigan went out and scheduled home and home with Arkansas and VT. They would have kept the home and home with ND, if ND was willing. Personally I like ND-Mich better than either of those series, and would have liked to see Michigan replace ND with someone like USC, UCLA, Stanford, Alabama, maybe Texas or even OU, but oh well.
ND quit the series because they sold out to the ACC for 5 games and had to dump to someone. Even though the MSU and Purdue series have more history, people are more interested in watching ND-Mich. Not sure ND-MSU really means much nor does ND-Purdue outside of Indiana.
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MSU > UM lately.
Michigan had already cancelled the 2017 game and said repeatedly that the series had to end. We just set a date.
Everyone beat Michigan during the Rich Rod years...oh wait....except ND. OK they won one against a 3-9 team.
Series record: Michigan 23-16-1.
Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick informed Brandon in September that Notre Dame would exercise a three-year out clause in the schools' contract, meaning the teams would stop playing annually after the 2014 game in South Bend, Ind. Michigan and Notre Dame had extended their contract through the 2031 meeting but on a three-year rolling basis, which gave one side a chance to back out.
Would ND be playing football if it weren't for Michigan?
1887: Michigan teaches the game to Notre Dame
The first game in the Michigan–Notre Dame football rivalry occurred in November 1887. Michigan had been playing football since 1879. Two players on Michigan's 1887 team, George Winthrop DeHaven, Jr. and William Warren Harless, had previously attended Notre Dame. In October 1887, DeHaven wrote to Brother Paul, who ran Notre Dame's intramural athletics program, telling him about the new game of football. Michigan had planned a game in Chicago on Thanksgiving Day, and the three men, DeHaven, Harless and Brother Paul, persuaded their respective schools to play a football match on the Notre Dame campus on the day before Thanksgiving.[5]
After Michigan's visit to South Bend in November 1887, football became a popular game on the Notre Dame campus. A football association was formed with Brother Paul as the president. In the spring of 1888, Brother Paul challenged Michigan to return to South Bend. Two games were scheduled for a weekend in April 1888. Michigan won the first game by a score of 26 to 6 and the second 10-4.
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Forbes article from Jan 29th. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/pete_thamel/11/19/maryland-big-ten-money/index.html
1. Big Ten ($310 Million)
2. Pac 12 ($303 Million)
3. ACC ($293 Million)
4. SEC ($270 Million)
5. Big 12 ($262 Million)
6. Big East ($94 Million)
7. C-USA ($26.5 Million)
8. MAC ($22 Million)
9. MWC ($21.5 Million)
10. WAC ($10 Million)
I think TCU and WV dont get full shares, but basically the Big12 is 26.2 million per team. Big Ten is 25.8 million per team (NU doesn't get a full share)
The projected jump is up to 43 million per team in 2017 for the Big 10 (even with 14 teams, 602 million total).
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It is interesting that with the new scheduling they chose to have the East get the 5 home games first. I heard that messed up Purdue and Sparty ND series with regard to getting in 7 home games. It wouldnt have if they had the West go first. I am sure there were lots of other issues beside the ND series, but it sure is gonna be a pain for MSU and Purdue. Let the conspiracy theories start. I am surprised Michigan has so much power, after all, they did get kicked out of the Big Ten for awhile....amost a century ago.
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I think they let ND walk away already. I dont think going after schools in the ACC was an attmept to make ND join our conference. I think it was just a TV set grab. I agree ND would have been a good fit even academically from what understand. My sense from the ND fans that I know is that they really don't like the Big Ten and it would be a last resort, but ND Joe would know better than I. I also doubt Michigan had anything to do with not getting FSU, if they were even on the table. But I do think the Big Ten really wanted to expaned again, and soon, to at least 16, based on Delany's latest comments. The ACC schools said no with the GOR. The days of Michigan and OSU owning the Big Ten are long gone. The Big Ten needs different teams to step up more like the SEC, I would think they should strive for that. All Wiscy, MSU, PSU and NU have to do is win it.
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Really. Why did you care enough to bother? Are you sort of a Husker fan too, or do you just hate the Big Ten?
So do you think Lisa will someday make a comittment and just settle down with the ACC or will her flirtations take her to the highest bidder?
I am not sure where you pulled the Lisa reference from.
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Saw this article...Delany is vague, but it sounds like the rumors of multiple schools being looked at is true.
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I think ND Joe is referring to when ND was passed over a long long time ago, mostly due to Michigan's objections. Since then, ND has turned down offers twice. Once after Penn State joined, and also in 1999 when they were almost in, but the board of trustees killed the idea. Ironically, if they had joined, I doubt the Big Ten would have been looking to expand again. ND is in the ACC now, but at least ND Joe seems to like hanging out on Big Ten boards. :-)
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Division overall winning percentage past two decades (East in Blue...for obvious reasons)
Ohio State 0.796
Nebraska 0.704
Penn State 0.692
Michigan 0.691
Wisconsin 0.690
Iowa 0.568
Michigan State 0.553
Purdue 0.504
Northwestern 0.494
Maryland 0.478
Rutgers 0.435
Minnesota 0.433
Illinois 0.389
Indiana 0.338
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I think they may have cut bait awhile ago. If not...its past time.
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I suspect it will be as follows:
Mich-Ohio
NU -Iowa
MSU-PSU
Rutgers-Maryland
IU-Purdue
Minn-Wis
NW-Illini
But you might be right about swapping PSU for Mayland or Rutgers
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I know you guys were worried about competative balance. I think I mentioned in an earlier post that NU would be playing OSU, UofM and PSU as much as possible.
Here is a quote from Delany.
"In the first 18 years, you're going to see a lot of competition between teams at the top of either division," Delany said. "We call that a bit of parity-based scheduling, so you'll see Wisconsin, Nebraska and Iowa playing a lot of competition against Penn State, Ohio State and Michigan. But it will rotate. Early on, we feel this gives the fans what they want."
Not sure where the 18 year comment came from....but I thought it was odd that he threw that in. That and NW should now have a chip on their shoulder. MSU already does....that one never goes away.
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That is why Johns Hopkins Univ has been mentioned. Univ. of Chicago is part of the CIC but hasnt particiapted in sports since the 1940s, I think it was an original member of trhe Western Conference/ Big 9/Big 10. Since the Big 10 is trying to get some LaCrosse programs going plus the addition of Maryland and Rutgers, JH would participate there and bring in research $$. Doubt this will ever happen either.
I have feeling Delany is pretty dissappointed, and I would not be surprised if Maryland backed out. I suspect 2 more ACC schools were supposed to be on board and it wont happen now, at least for awhile. Has the SEC negotiated a new contract yet? I think the only thing that gets this going again will be Big Ten revenue numbers in 2017 and teh expiration of the Big12 GOR. That was only for 6 years right? And didnt include Long Horn netowrk $$.
Hey ND Joe, I remember awhile back (after NU joined) that Swarbrick and Delany mentioned they had talked about hockey, but not ND joning the Big Ten. Was ND trying to join the Big Ten hockey conference?
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So if we're sticking with 14 teams, does that mean UNC and UVA declined? I would take both of them over maryland and rutgers in a heartbeeat
I would say signing the GOR means they either declined or offer rumors were not true. Remember, when the Big12 put the GOR in place MIssouri didnt sign it and later left for the SEC. Seems like Virginia et. all could have done the same if they had an offer from the Big10 and wanted to go. I guess there is the uncertainty of the $52M exit fee, so not quite the same as the MIssou situation.
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AAU+nonGOR=Florida Vanderbilt Missouri and Texas A&M. I don't see Florida or A&M moving to the Big Ten.I don't think the big 10 will take both Vanderbilt and Missouri for 15 and 16 unless they plan on going beyond 16. maybe one of them with a marquee option like Notre Dame or Texas.
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As a life long Big Ten fan, I was exicted by the PSU and NU additions. Maryland and Rutgers not so much, but I figured there was a plan in that move to flush some bigger fish or at least one with a mid-tier partner. I really hate beign stuck at 14 with 7 per division. Dont play each other enough. Nine games fit very well with the 16 team pod system, but not with 14.
Also you can forget about any non-AAU schools outside of FSU, ND and maybe OU. I probably shouldn't include OU as part of that group. FSU is there only because I have heard they are working toward applying for AAU membership. I think we are stuck for awhile
Seems to me if any of the rumors were true about Virginia, GT and NC they just dissed the Big Ten. Or maybe the rumors were false, which is more likely the case.
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T Pryor selling ring on Ebay.
in The Big Ten
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Bought and paid for.