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On 2/19/2022 at 9:34 PM, UniversalMartin said:

NIL is going to destroy college sports as we know it. We are going to have so many breakout leagues from this, where championships will eventually be a defined by the 8 league team you are in and that's it. No national playoff, no national tournament...teams that have $in their alumi pipeline will do their thing with their financial peers and so on and so forth. It's just going to suck.

Couldn’t disagree with this take more as it relates to NIL. 
 

The financial windfall that has come with TV money to these institutions is unbelievable. The money these coaches and administrators are getting paid is completely out of control. 
 

These kids should be able to make some money in that model. 

Statistically speaking: AM is going to a worse team. 
 

KSU played a decent schedule but had 600 less yards and played 1 more game. Nebraska held the edge in both rushing and passing yards. 
 

We all know Nebraska was mind numbingly close in many games, which is why we look better statistically, or at least comparable to an 8-5 team. 
 

Just don’t think this is a slam dunk for AM. Dude has a history of shoulder injuries. Combine that with an already streaky arm; will be facinating to follow. 
 

He was a great ambassador, so I hope it

works out for him. Now that he’s said his piece, will gladly enjoy him not talking about Nebraska anymore

As others have posted; OL/DL are concerns since we don’t have replacements for jurgens and Daniels clearly lined out. Feels like we got weaker in those areas. 
 

Wish Martinez the best at KSU but I’m personally glad he is gone. That ship had run its course. 
 

Bowl game is a must. Just cant see anything outside of that being acceptable. 
 

1 hour ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

To me, the problem is games like Illinois: 300 total yards for Martinez and no interceptions.

 

But for whatever reason -- and I'm a guy who predicted a great season for Adrian -- he didn't look like a good quarterback having a good game. He was a guy taking way too long to make decisions, and not operating with the precision the offense demands. And the fumble was a really bad one -- an unfocused and kinda panicky indecision that came at the worst time. Adrian's had a few too many of those games.

 

He's a good dude with good stats, but he's not the killer-instinct leader we need. And it's weird, because he played lights out as a freshman. 

This. OL needs to improve for sure, but AM does not help them. 

1 hour ago, Mavric said:

 

So because we used to be bad means you still have to complain about it?  Or you just don't let the facts get in the way of your argument?

We’ve played two games against bad teams and your throwing on the term facts? You make me laugh. Send me some of what your on. 

This fact is only one piece of my entire statement regarding AMs inflated stats, but thanks for your contributions with your great FACTS! 

18 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

Do yourself a favor and look back at that statistic over the last 3-5 years. I’ll do you a favor and give you a hint: this tweet exists because of how mediocre it’s been. 
 

It’s also not “encouraging”. We have played a FCS team and a team that literally got manhandled by UTSA. Why shouldn’t this stat on its own be good? If get warm fuzzys with our play, good for you. 
 

I want Nebraska to succeed so if this stat looks this way at the end of season, and we haven’t imploded through other means, it’ll mean good things have happened. 

30 minutes ago, Hilltop said:

Mav, it's impossible to post positive stuff right now.  Those who want to be negative have blinders on. 

AM will always statistically look good. We have made an art of being able to put up stats but still not score. 
 

Combo of turnover, penalties, and poor red zone O. 
 

Hard to learn much from the dam game, but UTSA rolled over Illinois. QB carved them up. 
 

AM was dreadful in the first half vs. Illinois. He got better as the game went on, but he missed on a bunch of throws. 50% completion percentage isn’t going to get it done (OL can help here but AM does them no favors with his holds and missed throws). 
 

Hope we see more consistency going forward. 
 

ULM. 
 

He’ll do well but Levis may get him killed before this season is over. Not an upgrade over AM imo. 
 

9 hours ago, Mavric said:

 

So, by your own numbers, 42% of his fumbles and 67% of his interceptions FOR THE SEASON came in that ONE GAME. Yet you've apparently convinced yourself that, not only is that not a outlier, but that's what you think you were seeing from him most games.  

My own numbers? 7 games is what Nebraska played in. Look at the splits and you’ll see a different story (#2 didn’t accumulate a ton of stats in 2 games because he didn’t start because of turnover issues). 
 

Are you in capable of looking past 2020 as well? 2020 game log splits tell the same story but I keep referencing his entire body of work and you keep going back. 
 

If you don’t believe he or Nebraska itself, has a turnover issue, that’s perfect. Glad for you. 
 

One thing we can agree on, at least I hope, is that we both want #2 to succeed and have his best season this year. 

I’m very surprised folks are focusing on the context and trying to excuse things. 
 

I picked that game for two reasons: 1) last game played, 2) it’s Rutgers 

People want to point to our players not getting separation, skill issues, etc. Not in play vs. Rutgers. 

Make all the excuses you want. The guy averages a turnover per game. High utilization or not; that is unacceptable.

Didn’t play much in a few of the games so these are a bit skewed but the number don’t lie. 

Just now, Mavric said:

 

That game was nothing close to his last two seasons in a nutshell. That game was an extreme outlier from a turnover standpoint. 

 

It was a frigid road game at the end of a trying season where and injured Martinez was trying to do too much to get his team a win and had ball security issues k in no small part due to the sleeves he was wearing.

 

The part where people keep trying to act like that was what was happening all season is disingenuous at best.

What stats are looking at to define that as an “extreme outlier”? Does he always have 3 fumbles and two picks? I’d agree he does not if that is your extreme definition. 
 

Why are you making excuses for fumbles? What does cold weather have to do with it? Does Nebraska not get cold? Last I checked he is a 3 year starter. I’d hope he knows how to play in that weather? 
 

Stats tell me we have a turnover problem, for essentially the entire time #2 has been Nebraska starting QB. He was also benched for another turnover machine in #7 to drive accountability for said issues. 
 

I guess if that means I’m being disingenuous, so be it the . 

6 hours ago, Mavric said:

 

Thanks!

 

Again, I'm not saying he couldn't be better.

 

But others around him on the 2020 list include:

• Brady White who ran for a whopping -23 yards in his college career but got invited to an NFL camp.  
• Phil Jurkovec who ran for all of 150 yards and is a possible first-rounder next year
• Spencer Rattler who is a Heisman Trophy favorite this year and ran for 160 yards last year
• Kellen Mond, NFL second-round draft pick who ran for 74 yards last year
• Kyle Trask, NFL second-round pick who ran for 50 yards last year.

Martinez ran for 521 yards last year, more than all those guys combined.

 

Others around him in 2019 include:

• Jalen Hurts, second-round draft pick and NFL starter, ran for 233 yards that year
• Justin Fields, #11 pick in the draft, ran for 484 yards that year
• Brady White (again), -71 yards that year
• Lynn Bowden, NFL draft pick as a RB

Martinez ran for 626 yards that year.

 

All things being considered, that's not terrible company to be in.  I think a lot of the anguish is because Martinez's mistakes are magnified for us because of the overall lack of success of the program.  And he simply has more exposure than most QBs do because of how much he runs, especially last year.

I think it’s fair to look at it like this but how do you reconcile the last game Martinez played in 2020?

Yes, he ran for 157 yards. Yes, his completion % was good. Let’s not forget he threw two picks and had 3 fumbles. 
 

That game in a nutshell is what we have seen for 2 years now. It’s also why he was benched mid season.

 
That game is also a good example of why Nebraska keeps coming up

short. You don’t normally turn the ball over 4 times and win, but Nebraska makes a habit of making every game hard due to our propensity to try and beat two teams every game (ourselves and the other team). 

Really hope these statistics change but nothing, even his last game, has shown me it will. Going to be another bumpy season if it doesn’t. 

3 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Nope. I didn't record the games and haven't rewatched them. Can't say for sure whether this happened before or after the McCaffrey starts. I just remember me and my buddy yelling at the screen, and the in-game announcers making the same observation. I don't know how many times it happened before I considered it a trend, but I'm going with at least three. 

 

Yeah, the knock on running quarterbacks is that they abandon the pocket too early. Sometimes Adrian did that, too. But the bigger problem with Adrian the last couple years was his in-the-moment decision making, and that could cut both ways. 

 

If you've rewatched every game, did you notice any changes in second-half playcalling and execution? It always looked to me that things that worked great for the Huskers in the first half didn't work in the second half. Either the defense adjusted, the Huskers started pressing, or both. 

Your first paragraph would apply to about 99% of D1 QBs based on analysis from armchair QBs. 
 

No one is going to constantly make the perfect reads. Does it happen more to AM than others? Debatable.
 

If you look at our QB utilization the last 3 years; our QBs have had more on their shoulders as it relates to running the football. Last year AM was completing 70% of his throws so the stats say he was hitting the open guy or running. Issue is he was running, and fumbling, quite a bit. 
 

Hopefully we have some trust in our RB to make the QB run trend go down, but I’m not sure that would serve us well. QB run is a big piece of the way frost calls his games. 
 

On 8/3/2021 at 12:39 PM, J-MAGIC said:

Rewatching our games, a lot of people's complaints about Adrian are issues that oftentimes stem from the line or receivers. That's not to say he never misses a receiver or read or doesn't do boneheaded stuff every so often, but our pass pro was horrendous at times last year and we had no one getting separation beside Wandale. Overall Adrian is vastly a plus for our offense far more often than he's a negative and if we all expect some improvements in pass pro and at receiver, I think he is primed for a big year.

 

I'm fully aware that the "Pass was complete/incomplete so the QB must be good/bad" crowd will not care about this but FWIW I think he's about to go off.

A lot of this is true, but anyone who doesn’t recognize that Adrian has a turnover problem is simply turning a blind eye. 
 

I’m not talking throwing picks here, which happen to every non-Justin fields player, but just careless fumbles. 
 

Quick check on 2020 stats: A.Mart top 10 with most of those teams playing more games than Nebraska. For his career he averages 1 fumble per game. 

The offense has been good enough to win more games. Same with the defense. If we can somehow not be one of the worst FBS football programs in turnover margin, we will win more games. That starts and generally ends with #2. 

Haven’t seen this mentioned but AAC and/or the Mountain West would welcome this news. 
 

AAC would seem to have the most to

gain to get that vacated seat at the table.  Got some good regional fits between the remaining Texas schools, okie lite and WVU. 

59 minutes ago, runningblind said:

I think a lot of you are greatly over estimating this and its impact.  I doubt much will change as far as where the recruits are going in 5 years.  Kids will make some but not nearly as much as your talking about.

Over estimating the impact.... You don’t think this changes recruiting? It won’t change it for the 5* kids but it will be harder to have 4* depth like the tier 1 schools have. This will or should level the playing field. Teams like Nebraska SHOULD benefit. 

No one leaves that type of money on the table unless there is either a health issue or he was forced out. 
 

I’ll be curious to see if we see a lump payment made to Moos next week. 
 

If Danny White ends up in Lincoln I wouldn’t be surprised. 
 

If we can somehow not be in the bottom 1/3 in all of FBS football in turnover margin, I’ll take that as progress (it’ll translate to wins). 
 

Outside of the sooners and buckeyes; on paper, we should be right there with a solid chance to win every game if we can by some miracle stop being turnover u

On 2/23/2021 at 8:57 PM, JJ Husker said:

Let's face it, if Luke's last name wasn't McCaffrey, nobody around here would even care. He wants to play QB and we've all seen enough to know we're glad it won't be here. As for Wan'dale, yes he was a talented receiver that Frost & Co misused out of necessity. It is what it is and he gone. I'm just excited at the prospects of maybe now having a running back that weighs more than 175 run between the tackles. But if some guys in the WR room (and the QB) don't step up to keep teams from stacking the box, not even Jerome Bettis would help us against B1G defenses. 2021 is the year we find out if Frost's offense can work in the B1G or if we're in for yet another coaching change in the near future. All we have to go on is hope at this time because the last 3 years have provided zero evidence it will work.

Zero evidence? I get that the grading scale is W and Ls but the scheme has shown its more than capable. 

Multiples times a game we miss on big plays. We somehow consistently maintain a turnover margin that ranks near the bottom in the country (stat just floors me btw). 

Captain obvious here: Better/consistent QB play will translate to more Ws. It’s on SF to get that done but the offense itself isn’t the issue (IMO)

Tend to agree that the conference angle had an impact here.

SEC vs B1G. 
 

WR wasn’t winning at Neb. He’s not going to win @ Kentucky either but he can put that on tape vs. SEC kids. When you add in his mother’s issues; really seems like he made the right call. 
 

He laid it on the line each Saturday while with big red. I’ll always respect that. Hope he tears it up into the future unless we happen to play them/him!

On 1/15/2021 at 5:41 PM, Corn55 said:

Update for the last two years. We had a turnover margin of exactly zero in 2019. In 2020, we had a turnover margin of -11.

123 of 127 schools. Crazy. 

Unfortunate. The guy is a warrior and played hard for us. 
 

Wish he would have stayed as he is a player maker, but understand to some degree as well. 
 

Wish him luck in the future wherever he ends up. Tough day to be a husker. 

Listen to the Rutgers coach after the game in describing Nebraska. Duval is getting the team where they want it to be. 
 

Problem? We play so many young kids it’s hard to see it entirely. That and we continue to be one of the worst teams turning the football over

Many of the issues are turnover related + penalties. 
 

When you add in that our QBs are our leading rushers; statistics are going to be difficult to compare to other teams.