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The entire season, played without fans, across the country was done because college football is a big business. Without football these athletic departments would have been crushed. 
 

I can’t blame the kids for not wanting to play. They are not getting paid and have been asked to sacrifice more than most through this entire process. 
 

When we start paying these kids in line with the contributions they make then we can expect more from them. 

2 hours ago, lo country said:

I honestly think AM's problems are the QB whisperer......

Same guy who had him as a heisman dark horse a year ago. Got it. Great analysis. 

What’s more concerning to me

is frost just sticks with Martinez. 
 

If AM hits him in stride it’s a big play. 
 

No offense will be successful with a TO machine behind center. 
 

We are the better team. It’s clear but can you over come 4 TOs and a KO return? Penalties? We are playing ourselves. 

1 minute ago, MartyMcSparty said:

Logging off...enjoy your typical "2nd half adjustments" losers

- BuckeyeBob

oh the irony of calling fans of another program “losers” while trolling on said fan bases forum. 
 

Glad to see you have so much going on in your life that you took the time to post on our board. Model of a “winner” in 2020. 

Heck of a first half.

3 TOs

7 penalties

3 sacks 

Rutgers successful fake pun

4th and 1 to the house second week in a row. 
 

ALL in 30 minutes. Makes me want to quote gladiator: “are you not entertained?!”

Entire season wrapped into 30 minutes. We did hit a 40 yard pass for the first time in what feels like 3 years (actual pass that went 40 yards not catch and run). 
 

Also getting out coached pretty well again. 
 

Perfect way to end 2020 and Nebraska’s season. 

Every game is just the same game. Turnover and penalties. 
 

No offense can overcome those issues, let alone without deficiencies. 
 

Hard to watch. 

On 12/14/2020 at 8:19 AM, Cdog923 said:

 

5-7 next year would be an absolutely stellar season, and should be beyond expectations for this staff and program. 

Probably true but that statement just sucks. Geez. 

Defense is tough to play anymore given the rules. Overall, the defense has been decent. 
 

Agree with previous posters. We need a speed guy on the edge to combine with what we have inside, which is looking solid. 
 

I know Minny has 200 yards rushing today, but 3 runs accounted for more than half of that. 

It’s the game plan.
 

Team gives up 7 yards a pop and first play into the wind.. pass. Why? 
 

Why throw the ball at the end of the 3rd quarter, which eventually ends in strip sack? 

I get the point of the calls, but he calls plays like he is coaching in a mid-major. 
 

If we could consistently throw the ball I probably wouldn’t care but we can’t. 
 

Additionally: Why are we not playing LM and AM together? Was the first drive of the season just a tease? 

Frost is not going anywhere for at least 2 years. 
 

AM is a hell of a kid and I want him to succeed so bad, but he is literally holding us back. He is so widely inconsistent and inaccurate throwing farther than 10 yards. 
 

Defense hasn’t been the issue today or really all year. Is the D perfect? No, but if we had an efficient offense it would look much better. 
 

We’re good enough to hang in games and be competitive but not good enough to win consistently. When teams don’t turn the ball over more than us or compete with our penalties, we lose. 

11 hours ago, huskerfan74 said:

I am still not convinced that northwestern is a juggernaut...if they played Ohio state or Indiana, they will lose by three touchdowns minimum. All this proves is that the west is weak and we are the weakest team in this conference.

Who said they are a juggernaut? The entire discussion was centered around your incorrect assessment of Wisconsin based on a two game sample size against poor competition. 
 

I don’t think Northwestern beats Ohio State, but they will be in every game, possibly absent that game, because they play smart/sound football and are very well coached. 
 

Also; Neb isn’t the worst in the conference. Not far off of it, but PSU and possibly MSU take the cake. It sucks either way, but just pointing that out. 

He doesn’t get the blame for today or even anything this year, but you can’t sit there and judge SF record in total through years without the caveat I mentioned. That was my point. 
 

The train wreck today is all on SF.

We needed a spark at Northwestern, but Luke isn’t the answer full time. 

The kid can run and is dynamic, but he isn’t a natural throwing the ball. He throws across his body, unable to see linebackers, and doesn’t have the arm strength to make the deep throws in tight windows. 
 

Luke missed big throws today. Multiple big plays. Does AM make them? Honestly, not sure, but he certainly is more equipped physically from a throwing perspective.

Our QB play has been subpar for two years now and it is 100% holding back the offense. 
 

If we stick with Luke; just run the veer and commit to it until he can figure out how to read coverages in a transitional setup. 

Any reference to Riley needs to come with the caveat that he made this mess. Firing him saved him enduring this, and it possibly being worse. He made us soft as a case of extra soft toilet paper. 
 

That isn’t excusing SF; he hasn’t got the job done. Today was unacceptable. its never okay to lose to Illinois and even more unacceptable to lose in the fashion we did. 
 

Anyone accepting that is part of the problem. SF needs to  be held accountable. Does that mean he should be fired? No, not at this point, but that seat should absolutely be getting uneasy. 

On 11/16/2020 at 12:11 PM, huskerfan74 said:

You severely underestimate Wisconsin...in my honest opinion, the current Wisconsin team reminds me a lot of our beloved Huskers of the 80s and 90s. They play to their strengths and the adapt to each opponent they play. I really hope we can be like them. They don’t beat themselves...they have solid defense, and are very disciplined. Wisconsin coaches have done miracles with the talent they get. Think about it. Their talent pool of recruits is not as strong as penn state, Ohio state, or Michigan, yet I give them a decent chance at beating any of these teams in any given Saturday. Northwestern is simply boring...they bore you until you lose. Had Luke started that game, we would have beaten them with a young team. I do not understand all the hype about northwestern. I am confident that Wisconsin will dominate them. Wisconsin’s coach understands his talent and is able to get the most out of his players. Frost can learn a lot from him. 

Hope you put your money where your mouth was. Tried to tell you wiscy was untested. Played out how you’d expect. 
 

Hope others jumped on the Northwestern line. 

Out coached is a nice simple way of putting it. I’m embarrassed. Frost will get more time but apathy is in place across the state anymore. 
 

Appears more likely that last week was lucky more than progress. 

19 hours ago, Undone said:

 

I'd have to really disagree that Purdue & Maryland have more speed and athleticism. We probably might if you count all of the freshmen.

Then you haven’t actually watched them play it would seem. 

19 hours ago, Undone said:

20 minutes ago, huskerfan74 said:

You severely underestimate Wisconsin...in my honest opinion, the current Wisconsin team reminds me a lot of our beloved Huskers of the 80s and 90s. They play to their strengths and the adapt to each opponent they play. I really hope we can be like them. They don’t beat themselves...they have solid defense, and are very disciplined. Wisconsin coaches have done miracles with the talent they get. Think about it. Their talent pool of recruits is not as strong as penn state, Ohio state, or Michigan, yet I give them a decent chance at beating any of these teams in any given Saturday. Northwestern is simply boring...they bore you until you lose. Had Luke started that game, we would have beaten them with a young team. I do not understand all the hype about northwestern. I am confident that Wisconsin will dominate them. Wisconsin’s coach understands his talent and is able to get the most out of his players. Frost can learn a lot from him. 

Glad to see you think highly of Wisconsin. I’d disagree that they don’t get talent, it’s just different talent. I think if you look across NFL rosters, that plays itself out. 
 

If anyone gets more from less it’s Fitz at Northwestern. 
 

Hope more people feel like you do and bet that line up so I can get a better # on NW. 

Illini are not very good this year. Nebraska should handle business. Be the worst defense we have played by a pretty sizable margin. 15 is a bunch but I’d expect to be up 10 at half. Only reason 15 doesn’t happen is a garbage time TD right?

12 hours ago, huskerfan74 said:

Wisconsin just annihilated Michigan at their home turf.  They will wipe the floor with Northwestern...wait and see

 

That same Michigan team that lost at home to Michigan St. MSU has lost to Rutgers and has has scored 7 points since playing Michigan in two games. 
 

So I’ll wait and see but my point was Northwestern has earned respect by the teams they have beat. Purdue, Nebraska, and Maryland all have more speed/athleticism than Wisconsin. Do you see Wiscy being able to run all over? I don’t. 
 

Mertz will need to be better that he was Saturday to win. 
 

Who has wiscy played to deserve being a TD favorite at NW?

Beating Illinois and Michigan is impressive? 
 

This will be the best defense they will have played and it’s not even close. Hell; this will be the best offense they have played as well. 
 

Wiscy may win but I’ll ride with fitz getting 7 at home. 

Didn’t really consider NDSU, but that could be a good landing spot. With all the negative noise in Minny (state not football program) I could see someone passing on that situation. 
 

With that said: I’d like him to go to Minny so Nebraska could give him an appropriate farewell at the turkey day game. The guy balled out and laid it on the line for a team winning 4 games a year. #respect 

Anyone know if ultimatum was put down that he be on campus by a point in time? 
 

Considering he was in Nebraska working out, I’m surprised by the timing. 

Definitely don’t think it’s a lack of desire. Can’t seem him getting a waiver outside

of minny, which if true, would add a little intrigue to the thanksgiving game.

10 minutes ago, WyoHusker56 said:

I'm more concerned about the comments he made about Nebraska than I am about the fact that he didn't choose us. It sucks losing a legacy, home state, 3* player for sure. However, the stuff he said about Nebraska is in the minds of a lot of kids that we miss on.

Agreed on the comments. You can also glean some of the recruiting pitches that these kids are hearing from out of state coaches, which run against the Huskers:
 

- stability

- winning

Not that those are surprising but just continues to show that NU needs to start to win.  

On 1/27/2020 at 11:13 PM, .1. said:

Dude, these kids are already getting a free education off of their skills and name anyway. If they didn't have the skills and name they wouldn't have been recruited to go on scholarship at their dream school in the first place. And if these kids really build their name and skills up, they're going to make a ton of money in the NFL anyway. You also got to think of the fact that "what if a kid is a bust in talent, does an unforgiveable crime, plays absolutely terrible in game, has terrible grades, transfers, etc. Would you like the fact that that player drained your school, fans, community, etc of money if that ever happens? That would lay cause for the fans to reeeaally berate the "players" and not the "coaches" then knowing those kids are doing horrible while sucking their money up. You can see it now:

 

"This damn guy (kid) is sucking our money up while losing every single freaking game that's important to us, while throwing interceptions, can't rush the passer, can't block to save his life, etc"

 

I mean these coaches getting paid as much as they are is part of the reason why we're so quick to blame and dispense hate onto them the second they mess up. 

"This dude (coach) is getting paid THIS much and can't even win a freaking division, bowl game, beat our rival, etc."

 

It would just get too messy. These kids are getting enough in the free education they're getting now where the rest of us have to pay back tons of thousands of dollars in loans when we go through the same schools they're going to. They don't then need to get more money just for playing. If they get injured they can get surgery and come back. But if they keep getting injured then they won't make it in the NFL anyway since they're too soft. And they can't make a "living" off of just their college playing days. 

I could go into a way to structure this, but a quick summary of it would be look at how LTIR works in the NHL (you’d have to have a cash cap, which seems relevant, but would be a broader discussion). 
 

Either way; you and I are going to disagree. My opinion is a degree itself is not fair compensation. It was probably closer 30 years ago, but with what coaches/athletes make, that model is outdated. 
 

College coaching salaries are ridiculous at the moment.  Pelini getting 2m to be a defensive coordinator? give me a break. These schools don’t pay that type of money if they aren’t making money left and right. Nebraska is no different. 
 

Start paying the players. Cap college coaches pay to compensate. If the coaches want the big money.. go pro. 
 

Entire collegiate model is such a sham as it stands. 

On 1/26/2020 at 10:03 AM, .1. said:

Man you'll have so many kids playing football that aren't even good. I don't think this is a good idea. By the way, there are way too many athletes as it is for universities to them afford paying for them

I don’t have have sympathy for universities. Check out those endowment funds or the preferential tax treatment universities are given on the returns on those funds? 
 

Take a look at what power 5 administrators are compensated. Power 5 football coaches? Talk about costs that are out of control. Take a look at the top 30 coaching salaries out there and compare that to how the NFL compensates their coaches. Want to save some money? Seems like a pretty good place to start (talking more about reform

on this - it’s not professional right?)

Kids need to be compensated fairly and should be able to make money off names etc. These coaches and administrators are paid like they are running a minor league team/business. Giving a kid an education is money, but anyone arguing that is fair market value for their services, especially for some of the elite athletes is out of touch. 
 

This isn’t the 70s/80s anymore. Look at what these athletes/coaches make now.