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Disgusting.  Even more the amount of downplay it gets.  Oh just a pizza with a stolen credit card.  Oh wait we had a coach that got 3 DUII’s and that was ok.

My prediction this won’t end well.

4 hours ago, 307husker said:

Miami vs Wisconsin

 

Speed vs power

 

Frost offense, "Florida speed" vs (a very good) B1G defense(s).

 

Miami will likely out recruit Nebraska for the highest caliber of "Florida speed". 

 

Preview of the future?

 

Thoughts...

As will Florida, Florida St and half the SEC.

2 hours ago, Bigred_inSD said:

No. Did you not see what the speed of Ohio State did to Wisconsin?

Did you see what the Big Powerful D line of Ohio State did to USC.  8 sacks.  The Big Ten has all kinds of speed across the board.  That Badger Defense has several NFL draft picks.  I find it funny that people think the Big Ten is slow just because they play old school Football.   Ohio State is complete across the board.  The Badgers just went 13-1.  

9 hours ago, Dogs In A Pile said:

 

I could be wrong but it probably has more do with the fact he and his staff took over a program that was 0-12 two years ago and went undefeated in his second season. Taking a G5 school to a New Years Day bowl with the big boys. Would you rather he come in and try to put together a bunch of strangers from scratch?

 

I'm ecstatic he was able to bring his entire staff including some support personnel. They will be able to hit the ground running and won't have to wait for a bunch of guys thrown together to get to know each other, gel (or start in-fighting and back stabbing as seen before) and learn the system they are going to teach.

 

It has been a while since we've had a truly cohesive staff IMHO and from all that we have heard these coaches work together as a unit very well and I believe the results will be seen on the field in fairly short order.

Let's also be realistic.  They had a down 0-12 year.  They went 12-1 and won the Fiesta Bowl in 2013.  They went 9-4 in 2014.   Its not some total rebuild.  UCF played lot's of winning Football with O'leary.  Great job no doubt, but I'll say it again,  UCF schedule super weak.     

4 hours ago, HuskermanMike said:

We know you like a certain style, but unfortunately, that style is not something Nebraska will run. We are running a fast-paced up-tempo offense that keeps the safeties guessing all game and comes at you fast. Scott will stick to his style of offense and it will work in the big ten West. No reason corners from the likes of Iowa, Minnesota, Ilinois, Purdue, NW should lock down the receivers we have at Nebraska. Wisconsin might be able to contain it but not completely shut it down.

 

I will agree with you on a win is a win. In the first few seasons, let's start with wins rather than margin of victory. But I would rather do it with an offense Frost is comfortable with, which is fast paced and keep you guessing.

 

 

Fast paced offense means nothing when the other team pounds the rock and has 8-9 minute sustained drives. That's the Big Ten and its the exact blueprint that was used to beat Chip Kelly and all the following teams from Oregon after his departure.  Come second half the little go fast teams get tired of getting beat on by the big lines on both sides of the ball.   Everyone knows how to defend the uptempo spread offenses these days.

4 hours ago, krc1995 said:

Kind of special, maybe?  I think they lose credibility with people because they’re not flashy, just sound.   I would trade our last 10 years for theirs.  And for about 2 1/2 quarters of this year’s game, I thought we were going to win. There was one point early in the 3rd I thought we might blow in wide open. But then they just pounded the rock. I think one possession lasted like 7 or 8 minutes. How frustrating was that? To know what was coming and not be able to do anything about it. I want to be frustrating. 

 

And look at their recruiting classes. A fair portion of their base recruiting is the Great Lakes area. It’s like they shun what they should do for what they need to do.

 

 

Badgers pound the rock and stop the run thats why they win in the Big Ten.  They do it very well.   

9 hours ago, krc1995 said:

And here is why I don’t get the cries for wideouts, at least in this stage of the rebuild.  To start being successful within the conference we must pound the rock and defend against it. That is all. 

Couldn't agree more!!!  The rebuild needs to be the O line and D.  Sooner or later somebody will figure it out.  All Div 1 winning teams have speed.  

Don't sleep on Akron and Troy.   By no means an easy W!!!

Championship Football has always been won with Defense and in the trenches both sides of the ball.   I could care less about the play fast hype.  Until the problems with the O line and Defense are fixed Frost will have his hands full in the Big Ten.

1 hour ago, jaws said:

 

Every year someone says that Wisconsin's defense is going to take a step back. It doesn't really happen. They are a good program that reloads. 

Badgers head coach 10 wins 1st year, 11 wins year 2 and 13-1 this year.   They reload, nothing fancy just good sound fundamental power football.  They know exactly how to win in the Big Ten and on the big stage.  

On 12/25/2017 at 8:10 AM, Moiraine said:

 

 

A 17 point victory is being taken to the woodshed "and then some" ?

 

 

Mmk...

 

So is a 14 point victory the woodshed?

 

7 points is a mere blowout?

 

3 points is a sound victory?

Well I'll restate 17 plus.  The spread by Vegas is 10.  So yes an undefeated  team  that gets beat in a highly ranked bowl by 17 plus is a woodshed beat down in my Mindset.

Auburn beat Bama  by 12 and has played 3/4 playoff teams.  Thankfully the playoff selection talking heads had enough sense to understand strength of schedule

and not even consider UCF.

But all Nebraska fans want to believe.  I heard several people state, but Memphis beat 6-6 UCLA.  Anyone see what Iowa State did to UCLA.?

Not to mention the fact that UCF players running their mouths about SEC speed.  Not a good idea to talk trash.  Auburn Defense held most teams under 20 points per game.

I like Frost and wanted him hired 3 years ago. He is a winner and I see him making Nebraska respected again.  Currently nobody fears Nebraska.  

I hope Frost gets the bowl win, but realistically I just don't see it.

If he gets the win then I'll celebrate and be happy.   I'll  be the first to admit I'm wrong.   But SEC is whole different level then AAC UCF.

On 12/22/2017 at 8:05 AM, BlitzFirst said:

 

You think Auburn is going to take them to the woodshed?

I do and then some. I say by 17.  UCF never played a team as complete as Auburn.  Whole different level of Football.

3 hours ago, BIG ERN said:

I think one of the most overlooked positives of hiring Scott Frost is the type of players he is going to recruit compared to the other teams in the B10. When Nebraska made the switch from the B12 to the B10 we were coming into new recruiting grounds that have been in place for quite sometime with other Midwest schools. I knew when Riley was hired we were going to be in trouble moving to a Pro style offense, and the biggest reason was who we had to compete with to get those recruits. Not only did Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Michigan State have the same offenses when we recruited so hard in California we were getting the leftovers from USC, UCLA, Stanford, and California - again, pro style offenses. We are going back to running a COLLEGE offense which I think is by far the best idea for Nebraska. We no longer have to worry about those teams (for the most part). When you run an offense like we used to run and like Frost does now, it is a lot easier to plug athletes into that you can get from anywhere in the country. I could care less if we ever have a QB that plays in the NFL. I care about The University of Nebraska winning football games. 

This will not be an overnight process, but I know for a fact that we will succeed once again #GBR


 

Let's hope Frost figures out he needs OL and DL recruits.  Without the maulers he'll have trouble.  He can talk all he wants about going fast, but he better have a DL that can stop the run.  

Auburn run game is very tough.  Also Auburn Defense is better than anything UCF faced.   If UCF can turn it into a shoot out I like their upset chance.   In reality I'm thinking Auburn by 14 plus.

1 hour ago, GSG said:

I'm hoping we don't see a bunch of transfers in the spring. Hard work might scare some of these guys away after having 3 seasons "off"

Let them go.  I hope all the weak and lazy get cleaned out.  The culture and mentality has to change and it will with Frost.

Chip Kelly changed the college football scene forever.  The majority are playing up tempo and some form of a spread offense.  The majority have implemented the perimeter passing game.

Defense has also caught up and the spread blur offense is being contained.

Cal first figured out how to contain it with a cover zero defense.  Most teams run a constant nickel package.  The good defenses today recruit hybrid defenders to stop this type of Offense.

Kids who can play inside and out. Linebacker and DB.   Many teams also utilize a walk LB or back in my  day we called it a monster back.

I'm glad coach Frost is tweaking it non stop and I believe as the years go on in the Big Ten he'll continue to adjust.  Football like all things is constant change, adaptation to have an advantage.

I'm still from school of thought that Defense wins championships and all tough games are won in the trenches.

2 hours ago, ColoradoHusk said:

I think that UCF played much better offenses in the AAC, than NU did in the Big Ten (especially the West division).  That's just my eyeballs watching the games.  I think offenses like Memphis and South Florida would have success in the Big Ten.  The lack of athleticism and speed that the Big Ten has is something you should be very aware of.

 

I understand that the lines are bigger and stronger and the defenses in the Big Ten may be better, but the Big Ten has some of the worst offenses in the entire country.

The Big Ten must have great defenses then, because they have 3 teams in top ten and currently 5 rated in the top 25.

Urban Meyer says hello 42-20 beat down of the Oregon Ducks in the 2015 national title game versus the fastest team in College Football and Marcus Mariotta.

Please....to say the Big Ten has weak offense and no speed is absurd.

The problem with football today is 7-7 competiton in High School. I'm dealing with it with my son who is a High School QB.   

Everyone wants the eye test fast paced high scoring offense.  Every kid loves playing the Nike 7-7 summer flag festival.

In the mean time they never grasp the physicality of the game. How to blow teams off the line of scrimage. How to pound the rock for 8 minute drives and put the game away.

You can have the eye test.  I'll take Big Ten Football any day of the week over the schools  that trade touchdowns each possesion.

1 minute ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Then why are you trying to make comparisons to how UCF's defense was and NU's defense may be?

I never said anything about how NU's defense may be.  I simply remarked that both teams are closely ranked in overall defense and I stated UCF played worse teams.

Quite frankly I'm sick of talking and hearing about UCF, Mike Riley, Bo and Callahan.  All ancient history and has no bearing on any future success of Nebraska Football.

But I'm also a guy who is so unimpressed with the quality of Football played in the AAC that I dismiss all the hype.  

You can't even compare the two. It's different levels of Football.  The strength of schedule confirms it as well.  It's one of the reasons they're not even considered for the playoffs.    It's why the red hot young coaches always start in lower level football.  They jump ship to come and play big time football.

On 12/4/2017 at 4:08 AM, twofittyonred said:

Maybe I'm reading it wrong but I see them sitting 95th in total defense right down there with 103 Nebraska.

 

http://www.cfbstats.com/2017/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category10/sort01.html

And playing much worse teams!!!

4 hours ago, Danimal said:

That spread for Troy is too big, that is a well-coached team that really comes to play against the big names. 

I agree very dangerous team. Think they beat LSU this year.

The O and D line weak link has been the main problem in my opinion with Husker Football for several years.

Until that is fixed I don't see us playing championship football.  The Oregon South offense is exciting, but games are won in the trenches.

You must be able to run the ball and stop the run to win titles.

11 hours ago, brophog said:

 

Especially the deep ball. That's what makes Milton so effective. He's an ok runner, but nothing special. Not big enough to bull people, not fast enough to outrun defenders, and not quick enough to elude. His runs, however, are very effective because he's doing it against a numerical advantage and that comes partly from having to respect his deep ball.

 

That's this offense, putting a defense into numerical disadvantages. With an accurate passer that can run even a little, it's very difficult to stop. Milton has a very good completion rate for how often they throw deep balls.

 

2nd in yards per attempt, 2nd in completion percentage, 2nd in QB Rating. All to Baker Mayfield.

 

That's elite. The vast improvement he made from year 1 to year 2 has to have any potential QB salivating. 

 

Also plays against nobody.