The Nebraskan Assassin

Yeah, I think I'm done here.

 

ABORT THREAD

If you're talking social/fun activities then not a damn thing, which was the point of the entire thread to begin with. I was unaware that Mississippi is such a hotbed of talent, but I stand corrected.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you're content with 9 wins a season in a weak conference, fine. I'm not.

It's actually ten wins a season just as much as it is 9.

Are we still crying about how hard it is to be Nebraska if we win 11 or 12?

 

Shut up.

What you hussin 'bout?

Nothing. Shut up wasn't directed toward you.....you're my homeboy.

 

More directed to the boo hoo crowd who will continue to claim Nebraska is at some disadvantage or just isn't capable of competing with these other programs. Of course, til' we win 12 games and then they just kind of shut up and fade away. Win games, cures all. Nebraska is an elite program and theres no reason we shouldn't be in the conversation every year. We are getting closer I think. This staff is coming around. Of course, instead of just admitting that we hired a first time head coach and his inexperienced buddies, we'd rather come up with the vast amount of excuses that have poured out of this fan base the last seven years or more.

 

We thought this thing was gonna turn around quick. We were wrong. When you think about it, why would it have righted quick? I see progress though. That's the first I've seen in awhile. We just gotta keep getting better and stop with the excuses for Gods sake.

 

Thank you for saying what I've been trying to say.

 

 

If you're content with 9 wins a season in a weak conference, fine. I'm not.

Who are you saying is content with 9 wins?

That's the feeling I get from a lot of people on this board. They say that top recruits won't come to play here, and top coaches won't come to coach here. I was even ridiculed for telling coaches about a great player at my school when he was in 8th grade, trying to give the coaches a head start.

I say that it DOES play a factor, based on available talent in the area. But to say kids won't come bc of weather or lack of activities is crap.

 

Recruiting these days is a lot different than it was during Osborne's tenure.

 

 

Come on now. From the mid 90s until Saban arrived, that program was garbage. Saban resurrected it, whether you care to admit it or not, just like he did at LSU.

 

Garbage eh? That period of ten years that you're describing included three top 10 finishes, SEC championships and BCS bowls.

 

 

 

So you mean to tell me that if Nick Saban came to coach at Nebraska that our recruiting classes wouldn't be Top 5 year in year out??

 

You mean to tell me that our classes would? You're discrediting people for opinions and then making outlandish statements that are founded completely in conjecture without any actual evidence or support to your claims.

 

 

I understand that. My point is that if one of those elite coaches DID come to Lincoln, the top recruits WOULD come.

 

Again. You create a thread blasting people for having the opinion that location matters a lot in college football recruiting, which, I might add, has been visually proven right before your very eyes, yet you continue to deny it, and then you make an even more absurd claim to opinion such as the above, without any supporting evidence at all.

Everything I've said has gone right over your head. My point for this thread was to show that saying that kids don't come to Lincoln, simply because of the weather or the notion that there's nothing to do there, is false. Kids will go wherever there's a proven winning coach. That's my opinion and sticking with it.

 

As far as talent goes, yes there's much more talent in the south, I agree. Still, I believe that with an established championship-winning HC, those players would come to Lincoln. This isn't the 70s or 80s or 90s anymore.

 

And as far as Bama's program goes, it was in the gutter when Saban arrived. Shula, and even Franchione and DuBose, were not very successful there, at least not by Alabama standards. LSU was nothing but an average program before Saban came.

If you're content with 9 wins a season in a weak conference, fine. I'm not.

 

 

 

I take complete ownership. My belief is that geographical location does not matter, if you have a coach that kids want to play for. I'm entitled to my opinion. I may not agree with everyone else's opinions, but I respect them all. Others want to hurl insults and act like juveniles. In the end, we are all Husker fans who all have the same vision. Why some Husker fans want to argue with others is something I'll never comprehend.

You've been plainly shown multiple times why your comparison to Nebraska and the two Mississippi schools' programs is not an accurate one. The point you're making above is clear, but your original post didn't really make any sense.

That's because my OP is based on what I've heard from OTHER Nebraska fans over the years. That isn't my own opinion.

Well, they're wrong too. If they paid attention and listened to what recruits say about Nebraska, it would clarify things for them. But, I'd be shocked if any of them would understand anyhow.

My entire point, exactly. However, I stand by my belief that kids will go to play for an established coach, no matter where the school is located.

I just don't understand how people can deny it. If Bill Cowher came to Lincoln to coach, you mean to tell me that our recruiting classes wouldn't be any better? Come on.

 

I stand by my theory that if someone like Meyer or Saban or Tressel or the like came to coach at Nebraska, the players would flock to Nebraska. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

And there is a big reason why none of those coaches are at Nebraska.

 

Urb has said that he would have ni interest in this job.

I understand that. My point is that if one of those elite coaches DID come to Lincoln, the top recruits WOULD come.

 

I take complete ownership. My belief is that geographical location does not matter, if you have a coach that kids want to play for. I'm entitled to my opinion. I may not agree with everyone else's opinions, but I respect them all. Others want to hurl insults and act like juveniles. In the end, we are all Husker fans who all have the same vision. Why some Husker fans want to argue with others is something I'll never comprehend.

You've been plainly shown multiple times why your comparison to Nebraska and the two Mississippi schools' programs is not an accurate one. The point you're making above is clear, but your original post didn't really make any sense.

That's because my OP is based on what I've heard from OTHER Nebraska fans over the years. That isn't my own opinion.

 

 

 

Once again, I don't know why all of the butthurt in this thread is directed at me. I'm simply the messenger. I can't even count how many times I've heard Nebraska fans say that recruits don't want to play for Nebraska simply because there's nothing to do in Lincoln.

I don't understand the butthurt here. People are just pointing out that you are wrong. Where a School is located matters. If that hasn't been proven to you in this thread, then either you're not paying attention or choose to close your eyes to reality.

Not sure what "butthurt" you're referring to. :confused: Why this thread seemed to put sand in so many people's vaginas is beyond me.

Well, you're wrong. So why don't you admit it and move on.

 

This whole thread is totes stupid.

So you mean to tell me that if Nick Saban came to coach at Nebraska that our recruiting classes wouldn't be Top 5 year in year out??

 

 

Hmm, from what I remember, Tuscaloosa was in shambles when Saban arrived, as was LSU.

They played football in Alabama before Nick Saban arrived. And they did it quite well too. Some guy with an animals name........ ummm Bear something coached there. Nicky boy didn't bring a football to Bama and teach those boys down south a new sport. Stop acting like what Nick Saban did for Alabama is the same thing Bill Snyder did at KSU.

Come on now. From the mid 90s until Saban arrived, that program was garbage. Saban resurrected it, whether you care to admit it or not, just like he did at LSU.

I stand by my theory that if someone like Meyer or Saban or Tressel or the like came to coach at Nebraska, the players would flock to Nebraska. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

 

 

Once again, I don't know why all of the butthurt in this thread is directed at me. I'm simply the messenger. I can't even count how many times I've heard Nebraska fans say that recruits don't want to play for Nebraska simply because there's nothing to do in Lincoln.

So take some ownership in your statements or leave it alone. Im not saying this to you im saying it for a friend.

I take complete ownership. My belief is that geographical location does not matter, if you have a coach that kids want to play for. I'm entitled to my opinion. I may not agree with everyone else's opinions, but I respect them all. Others want to hurl insults and act like juveniles. In the end, we are all Husker fans who all have the same vision. Why some Husker fans want to argue with others is something I'll never comprehend.

 

 

Once again, I don't know why all of the butthurt in this thread is directed at me. I'm simply the messenger. I can't even count how many times I've heard Nebraska fans say that recruits don't want to play for Nebraska simply because there's nothing to do in Lincoln.

I don't understand the butthurt here. People are just pointing out that you are wrong. Where a School is located matters. If that hasn't been proven to you in this thread, then either you're not paying attention or choose to close your eyes to reality.

Not sure what "butthurt" you're referring to. :confused: Why this thread seemed to put sand in so many people's vaginas is beyond me.

Once again, I don't know why all of the butthurt in this thread is directed at me. I'm simply the messenger. I can't even count how many times I've heard Nebraska fans say that recruits don't want to play for Nebraska simply because there's nothing to do in Lincoln. My point is that that has very little to do with a recruit's decision.

OK....First of all, I don't think Lincoln is lacking in much at all that most college towns offer around the country. Sure, on recruiting visits to places like Miami, UCLA and USC they can take them to the beach. But, really.....how often does a college kid go to the beach when they are busy with school and football.

 

Here is something interesting that I looked at on recruiting and Ol Miss. I looked at the last 4 recruiting classes. Those are the players that should be contributing this year on these teams.

 

From Scout:

 

Team Rankings:

 

Nebraska, 34, 34, 11, 49

 

Ol Miss, 27, 18, 10, 58

 

Other than two years ago, They are fairly similar.

 

Over those 4 years, they had:

 

Ol Miss

 

96 players averaged 3.23 stars

 

Nebraska

 

87 players averaged 3.18 stars

 

They had nine more players and slightly higher star ranking. I would honestly say the average star ranking was close enough to say it's a wash since recruiting is such a crap shoot.

 

So, I don't really see Ol Miss getting that much better talent than Nebraska.

Yeah, but Ole Miss did sign the nation's #1 player in 2013(Nkemdiche) as well as some other 5-stars.

 

 

I love how any program who is more successful than Nebraska is "dirty" lolz

Yeah, I mean it's not like Alabama didn't just get off probation when Saban got there....

 

 

Oh wait....

 

http://www.footballgeography.com/college-football-fbs-and-ncaa-probation/

Your argument is invalid... Bama certainly wasn't "successful" prior to being on probation.

 

 

 

Nebraska was ranked #5 after five games in 2010. Being highly ranked early in the season isn't that difficult. Let's see where they're ranked at the end. My guess is quite a bit down the ladder.

MS State has beaten 3 straight Top 5 teams. Their schedule is brutal. That's the ONLY reason why they might not finish high in the polls. If we had their schedule we'd finish with a losing record.

Is it brutal?

 

LSU almost lost to Wisconsin who is horrible...

AM is a joke, just like they were the last 10 years

 

Sometimes you catch teams at the right time.

Yeah, I guess Auburn sucks too.

 

We'll see how "horrible" Wisconsin is when we play them.

You got it all wrong, Assassin. Where the location argument falls apart is the fact that Nebraska was an elite program for 40 years.

 

The difference was top tier coaching.

Wow, such a witty guy.

 

Not quite sure why you're pointing the finger at me. You just summarized exactly what I've been saying throughout the entire thread. The location thing ("there's nothing to do here") is just something I've heard other Nebraska fans use as an excuse for years.

 

 

 

Location has nothing to do with it.

What a giant pile of horsesh#t.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that. Saban and the like could coach at Alaska and kids would flock there to play.

Didn't happen when he was Michigan State.

Because he wasn't established yet.

Just look at Chris Petersen last year. People swore up and down that he'd never leave BSU.

That's an inane statement since he's not going anywhere after that much success and if he for some reason did it wouldn't be to a more challenging recruiting situation. Comparing NU recruiting to cheating schools in talent rich regions is pointless. Unless you are one that thinks NU can or should try the same tactics.

Well, unless you have proof of them "cheating" then your argument is pointless, as well.

Saban is just an example. There are plenty of other great coaches out there.