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14 minutes ago, Undone said:

 

Yeah but if he had zero turnovers in these first two games we're probably 1-1, beating a Minnesota team that has outcoached us more often than not in the last few years. And then we're probably making a bowl game, something we haven't done in six years.

 

I'm not sure how Husker fans can really expect it to be reasonable that we'd jump from being a 4-8 dumpster fire to a team that wins 9-10 games and plays for the B1G championship in a single offseason or even two seasons. First steps is to at least make a bowl game and not have a losing season.

 

I'd also add that I'm very confident that Smothers wasn't even as good as Sims. Thompson though? Yeah, it would have been great to have had him for this season.

just saying smothers probably doesn't turn the ball over the way sims does.  the athletic edge that sims has is completely negated by the number t/os.  smother isn't chopped liver as an athlete and just using him as an example.  agree that keeping thompson would've been the right move.  we coulda won 8 game this year with thompson.  we've played undisciplined football for quite some time.  i will say hats off to the blackshirts.  if we don't turn the ball over so much against colorado, the blackshirts don't get worn out in the second half.

On 9/9/2023 at 6:54 PM, Decked said:

We are stuck this year. There isn’t one good QB on this roster. Sims will be gone next year and potentially satterfield. 

i'll hope that sims can cut down the t/os or we find a guy because it's what we have right now.  that said, this year doesn't look good and i have to agree that we start over on offense next year.  i hope i'm wrong and things get turned around, but if i had to put money on it i agree with you.

On 9/9/2023 at 3:59 PM, Scarlet said:

First if you're coming with a hair on fire emotional take post it in another thread.  Let's talk football.  What do you do if you're Rhule?  The overwhelming problem with this team at this point is obviously the QB room.  Can it be fixed?  

 

Casey Thompson has sailed so that's out.

 

Sims obviously has a lot of talent but unfortunately that's more than offset by his ball security issues.  He's basically Andrian Martinez but even more a liability especially in the shotgun.  

 

The problem is his backups aren't it either. There's a reason they're not starting at a P5 school somewhere.  Haarberg was wildly inaccurate on his attempts today.  He had a receiver open over the middle on one throw and sailed it a good ten feet over the receiver's head.  He made Sims look accurate by comparison.  Chubba hasn't shown much either from limited play.  The coaches are pros and as much as everyone wants to rage on them at this point there's a reason they saw Sims as the number one coming out of camp.  His ceiling as far as talent is high.  I think the coaches thought they could coach the mistakes out him when they brought him in from G. Tech.  Maybe they were a little over confident in the QB whisperering skills.  

 

All that said can you continue on with Sims anymore? 

 

Do you go under center with Sims and pair down the play book?  He'd still be a liability but at least the shotgun drops would be out?  Or do you stay the course?  I'm thinking Rhule's stuck now and will do the later.

 

Do you go with Haarberg?  Chubba?  My guess is that'll be about as successful as the McCaffrey experience of a few years back. 

 

What a s#!tty situation to be in.  Sometimes there is no good option, no pun intended.  

 

 

rhule dropped the ball by bringing sims in to begin with.  there were better options available. also pissed that we didn't just keep logan smothers and casey thompson.  we would be 1-1 or 2-0 with smothers at qb right now.  he can run too, is a better passer than sims and wouldn't turn the ball over once every quarter and a half.  w/o the turnovers we would've been leading colorado in the third quarter and would've beaten minn.

also not a fan of his choice for oc.

sims can develop into a solid qb if we're only going to throw 15 or so times a game because i believe at some point he can play smarter football, but he'll never have a high ceiling because he isn't naturally accurate and can't see the field.  we can't recruit well enough to ever become anything more than a perennial 6-9 win team with that style of football in this day and age. at the moment i would love for that to happen, but we have no potential to be a contender if we're trying to run a power running game without being able to recruit the personnel required to be dominate with that style.  need to take a page out of chris petersen's book and have a really good roster every 3 or so years. solid and competitive for  a couple years then have a veteran squad with depth and a polished qb every  3 or 4 years.  i know it's the age of the portal, but that's where sims came from.

even if sims never turned the ball over it takes the top off of our potential as a team.

maybe rhule believes that sims can get us 6-8 wins a year for couple years while he builds a roster and finds a qb.  that's my hope.

if we can break even in the t/o battle, we'll win this game.  should be able to run the ball at will, keep that offense off the field.  also a good day for our pass rush to shine.

GO BIG RED!

25 minutes ago, SECHusker said:

Thinking it will be Jeff Libby from Ole miss. They'll pay him more and he'll get playcalling responsibilities.  

 

No inside info just a gut reaction.

lebby would be a great hire.  need someone with accuracy at qb and we'll have to teach the wrs to read a defense.

4 hours ago, chamrocck said:

The LSU guys are available now. I also look around the Big 12. Manning at ISU and the guy at Baylor. Big 12 is becoming less relevant so coaches there may look to move.

lsu has actually regressed from last year on offense.  i'm not saying that's all on peetz, but he hasn't done anything to make me want him as an oc.  qb coach maybe.  i'd take joseph for wr coach in a heartbeat.

39 minutes ago, BigRedN said:

 

I'm good with this with a real tough nosed OL coach.  I think we need more of a B1G or SEC OL coach.

i wish i could give this more than just +1.  will easily be the second most important hire.

1 hour ago, observer3 said:

The Ducks under Helfrich did make the college football championship game.   If he were the offensive coordinator, it would be a good hire IMO.

 

I agree with the idea that different schemes can work, what is important is that the plays fit the player strong points and are executed well, along with some adaptability.

helfrich is probably our best realistic option.  dude loves to run the ball.  he lit it up his four years as a hc at oregon(frost as oc for the first 3 years), but defense suffered under his watch.  if he recruited better on defense he'd still be there.

no one has done well with colorado or the chicago bears in recent memory.   

not saying he's a must get oc, but we could do a lot worse.

speedy recovery and good luck on sundays mr. domann.

1 hour ago, BaytownHusker said:

 

LMAO 3-9 worth of fine..

 

Bring me a Michigan, Michigan St, Iowa or Wisconsin style of O and ill be happy..

we would've screwed that up the same way.  if we could execute consistently it wouldn't matter what type of offense we have.

be it coaching/development, talent or both.  doesn't matter right now.  we don't execute.  we have a dysfunctional passing attack and it would be dysfunctional in any scheme.

we're bad at pass blocking, passing and running routes. top to bottom.

i think the scheme we run now is fine.

we need MUCH better execution.  we don't have any consistent accuracy at qb and our wrs can't read a defense.  that's a huge problem, especially going into year 5.

8 minutes ago, Caliborn72 said:

That time of year where keeping an eye on the recruiting offers going out might signify some unexpected attrition. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some at DLine and in the secondary.

 

The portal makes it tricky to keep track of (but also in a good way) since we can still grab players after spring.

the portal is definitely our friend at the moment.

2 minutes ago, cornheadnation said:

I'm still in the "please just get to a bowl game" camp. But I think Its a scratch and claw like effort to get to that point. 

 

 

same here, just wouldn't be shocked if we won 8+ games.  happy, yes.  suprised, no.

Just now, cornheadnation said:

Sad thing is, even with the schedule, I think it would be. 

i would be a good turnaround.  i'm not putting money on it, but it wouldn't suprise me either.  

sad thing is, if frost wins 8+ games next year it wouldn't be a miracle.

1 hour ago, KC Sker said:

He ain't wrong. I don't really like Cowherd and he usually bashes Nebraska (well deserved) but he usually calls it how he sees it and its nice to hear he's giving props. We probably made the right call even though it's unpopular to some and obviously the assistants are key; let's hope we don't Husker it up. 

that's my take.  frost has dropped the ball this year, but the team is playing better.

one thing people maybe won't accept is that most other coaches will bounce to greener pastures if they start having success in lincoln.  frost will stay.

it's a top 20 job because of the pay, but it will always be an uphill climb to compete at the highest level.

1 minute ago, Born N Bled Red said:

 

And those are DEFINATELY battles that coaches did not want to win this year. I really think they only wanted to win defensively. We only put the offense and special teams out there because we had to per the rules. 

definitely seems that way. lol.

24 minutes ago, seaofred92 said:

Thoughts here?

Frost should do everything he can to win the special teams battle.  we aren't trotting out a buncha 1st round draft picks with a roster full of blue chip recruits.

i'll say it LOOKS like we need a dedicated st coach.

Just now, Red Five said:

 

Why?  Punt returns can make a huge difference in starting field position.  Starting at your 35 vs starting at your 20 is a big deal.

agree.   a team in Nebraska's situation, wanting to compete with the big boys, should do everything they can to win the special teams and t/o battles every game.

2 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

A coach has to be given time then to develop those linemen to play 2-4 years down the road. Unless, he happens to come into a sweet situation with them already on the team. 

tru dat.

2 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

You really think not focusing on size in the big ten is a good idea?

you need big, strong guys on the oline.

getting guys who are good, tough football players that have the frame to add enough weight will make better olineman 2 or 3 years down the road vs big guys with marginal ability.

people generally get a lot stronger from 18 - 22/23.  a LOT.

10 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

FIFY

w/e.  for gtech he did outstanding.  

6 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

I honestly don't know the answer to this.

 

These military academies are so often at the top of the list in rushing and their coaches so often are listed by fans as someone who we need to hire because of it.

 

So.....who has been successful rushing the ball at these academies and has left to a P5 program and replicated that success into being a dominant winning program?

paul johnson did a great job at gtech.

1 hour ago, BoNeyard said:

So now with Frost bringing in an entirely new staff, if he meets the required amount of wins next season, whatever that may be, he is going to seal the deal for an additional 3 years. 
 

Alberts is giving Frost something very rare in this business, a second chance. If Frost hits a home run with his hires and wins games next year to get us bowling and maybe at least in the conversation of a Big Ten West title in the later parts of October, Frost will have a rebirth as Nebraska’s head coach. I don’t mind this second chance at all.

i agree.  having someone stay in lincoln after becoming successful is also something to consider.  i think that has as much to do with giving frost a second chance as anything else.

3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

I'm fine with Martinez coming back.  But, I would love to see us try our best to go get a good QB to come in and compete.  And, an honest evaluation next year as to who the QB should be.  I'm fine if Martinez is 2nd string.  We saw this with the Vball team with Sun.  Very popular player but the coach tried other players.  She's had a great attitude as a backup.  No reason Martinez couldn't be the same.  If the new QB struggles or gets hurt, Martinez is experienced.

purdy from fsu is in the portal.  4 years of eligibility remaining.