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6 hours ago, timmytbro said:

Frost is the guy, this thread is so irrelevant. Like if we were in court I would object to this all day long on relevancy grounds. 

 

Points. John fox did not win a super bowl in Denver, lol, Von Miller and the rest of the Bronco D did.

Point 2. Whoever recommenced Josh McDHole, are you for real? who in their right mind drafts Tim Tebow in the first round?

 

Point 3. Nebraska has an identity, we are a smash mouth football school that cannot recruit five star kids at will. But what we have here is a recipe for success that unfortunately AD's have shoved in the back of the kitchen cabinet. Look at how bad Michigan was until Harbaugh came home. Nebraska is a sleeping power house that is waiting for the right chief to come in and put all the ingredients together.  Frost knows what it takes to win in Lincoln.  

 

My biggest issue with what has been going on for the last fifteen years is that we have had leadership who willfully choses to be blind to the fact that we have an identity. Steve pederson hired a west coast coach, that did not work, then shawn eichman comes in and hires a west coast coach. It was as if Eichorst had no clue that the west coast experiment already failed here.

 

Nebraska will not out recruit Ohio State, or Michigan. But we can run a niche system that utilizes the talent to the best of its ability. Every now and then we will get a phenomonal QB and he will take us to the promise land.

 

 

You bring up a really good point regarding recruiting & our ability to compete w/ the likes of OSU and Mich. on that front. The 'smash-mouth' identity point, holds some weight; as it is easier to form a consistently competitive program using that method without having the exceptional recruiting classes that other top programs seem to acquire year-in & year-out (Wisc. proved that, so did Mich. St. until fairly recently... even, Iowa is consistently competitive w/ the big boys in the B1G)

However; the (potential) flaw in this argument is Frost and whether he would bring that brand of football to Neb.

Frost first saw major success (as a coach) at Oregon, running the Spread Option attack. When he took over the play-calling reigns, he continued to use that attack. He is now at UCF, and he is still running a spread attack; that isn't exactly smash-mouth football; not as we know it.

Would he change his offensive scheme that he has been running for 5+ years now (with success) if he were brought in as HC? maybe? IDK. Like you said. He has seen first hand what has worked at NU in the past; but he has also seen a different scheme work effectively under his own tutelage.

1 hour ago, huskerfan333157 said:

He's too predictable and conservative.  We always run on first down for a two yard loss, we don't adjust and won't pass when we have the lead.  Riddick, who's an amazing pass catching rb, only got passed to ONE time.  We never take shots downfield when we have a lead (even if it's only by a touchdown).  The Vikings defense was jumping on everything!!  JBC can't adjust.  

 

I would love to have Teryl Austin, he's the reason we are winning games this year!!

I haven't watched their games too closely; but from what you described; those things infuriate me. I especially hate getting conservative when you acquired a lead by being aggressive (The counter-argument to this is ATL vs. NE last SB; but I've seen far more leads lost via the opposite reason).

What HCs are worth $5m+ a year... and are we really willing to give a guy $25-30m guaranteed over 5-7 years; considering our geographic location in comparison to our nations recruiting hotbeds? What if the "Big Name Guy" get Riley results over his first three years, but has a 7 year contract? Are we willing to take that risk at this point?

I honestly don't know. Maybe it is worth the risk.

1 hour ago, ColoradoHusk said:

John Fox never won a Super Bowl.  He lost his two appearances (one with Panthers, one with Broncos).  The Broncos Super Bowl winning team was coached by Gary Kubiak.

 

I don't want an old, retread coach, especially one from the NFL.

You're right. I concede. No Fox, lol

8 hours ago, huskerfan333157 said:

Hell no to jim Bob and im a huge lions fan.

Why, though... I have only seen a couple Det. games (My uncle/neighbor is from Michigan, so he comes over to watch the game since I have Sunday Tic). They seem to be functional on offense.

24 minutes ago, alwayshusking said:

Strangely enough, I liked a lot of what Bo was trying to do on offense with Beck. I think the problem was Bo and his staff didn't recruit at a high enough level at certain positions and Beck was a shaky practitioner of the offense. 

 

And the defense ended up getting him fired as much as anything, partially recruiting related imo. Being soft vs the run in the B1G is a killer.

Their offense was hurt by injury, as well. I felt like Martinez was only 100% healthy for about 40% of our games after his initial injury.

Seems like Burkhead had some injuries at some untimely moments, as well.

I think Becks big problem was that he got too comfortable with the philosophy of 'take what the defense gives you' and never established a true identity. We never committed to being a true spread option team, power run w/ a dual-threat QB, etc... we never had an identity on offense.

3 minutes ago, huskerfan92 said:

 

Oh dear god absolutely not

 

He's a SB winning coach; and has coached on some really good defensive staffs. Wouldn't be my first pick, but certainly not a horrible coach to consider

23 minutes ago, MyBloodIsRed16 said:

John Fox will probably be looking for a job soon 

I wouldn't mind seeing his name on the shortlist... I wouldn't put it at the top, though.

1 minute ago, secretasianman said:

When Pelini was fired, I was really hoping that Nebraska would go after David Shaw at Stanford.

 

Stanford runs the type of offense that most Nebraska fans want and Shaw really gets the most out of his athletes.  

 

Would be tough to get him since he's coaching at his alma mater, but offer him $4-$5 million.

 

Nebraska has the resources to try and get a proven Power 5 coach.  We don't have to settle for an up and comer who hasn't proven himself on the national stage.  

 

 

All I can say is: $$$ talks... but when I say $$$; I mean $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$....

I'll never say "I can't see (insert name) leaving (insert team) for (insert other team)"

but I think Shaw is another guy that would only leave his current program for nothing less than a Haurbaugh-like contract.

Personally; I wouldn't mind that, though. Would love the hire.

7 minutes ago, teachercd said:

I think he would recruit much like Bill O'Brien did at PSU.

A bit of an unfair comparison, though; considering no coach would come into a program w/ the sanctions that O'Brien had to deal with.

Who knows how he would have recruited w/o those sanctions. (He actually didn't recruit too bad even w/ the sanctions).

9 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Josh M would be about as amazing hire as you could get.  But I don't see it happening.  

Agreed; Can't find his salary anywhere; but typically, the highest paid coordinator in the NFL makes somewhere close to $3m... I'm willing to bet he's in the $2-3m range.

We'd have to give him a Harbaugh-esque contract for him to consider. I think he might be itching to be an HC, again... his last stint was smeared by lots of controversy (some in & out of his control)

No NFL coordinators being considered?

Josh McDaniels - Off-Cord - NE

Joe Woods - D-Cord. Den.

Teryl Austin - D-Cord - Det.

Jim Bob Cooter - Off-Cords - Det.

1 hour ago, MyBloodIsRed16 said:

Who would win in a fight between a hurricane and Ditka?

Which Hurricane?

Ray Lewis? Sapp? Sean Taylor? Ed Reed? those guys could give Ditka a good run for his money, imo.

Vinny, Kelly, Torreta... basically any UM QB would crap their pants if they had to fight Ditka...

Jimmy Johnson was technically a Hurricane; he'd get whooped by Ditka.... is he still considering coaching?

So; is Trev 'actually' not a candidate for the UNL AD position...

or is he not in consideration in the same way Urban Meyer wasn't in consideration for the OSU job before he became HC of OSU?

TCU does smoke WVU

Louisville pulls away late from NCst

Purdue edges Minn.

Iowa batters Illinois... maybe a shutout

Wash. St. handles Oregon handily

FSU tops Miami

Michigan barely edges Mich. St. (2 ints., each)

Frost's Knights hang 42+ on the Bearcats

Saquan Barkley rushes for 200+ vs. NW

Neb. covers spread vs. Wisc., but comes up short (Lee's INT's return... 2 to be exact)

39 minutes ago, badgers007 said:

 

Alex Hornibrook ranks No. 6 nationally in yards/attempt (10.0), No. 10 in yards/completion (14.97), and has completed several passes of 20+ yards.

Still, he doesn't get impatient like other QBs who feel a need to make a big play. He seems like he'd rather hit the open guy for the sure ten yards than take the 1-on1 deep shot.

That's what Neb. is gonna give him all day; and I feel like he'll be more than willing to take it.

Don't like how we match up against Wisc. Defensively, TBH.

Hornibrook is a QB that seems like he doesn't mind dink'n'dunking his way down field (hence, high comp. %). Our soft coverage will play right into that. Wisc. isn't really a "big play" offense, so our 'bend-but-don't-break' D won't serve us well, unless the the front 7 can continue to be stout against the run; but we are going against a much improved O-line this week; so we will truly see if the front-7 is up to the task in the red-zone.

IDK... O-line looked OK/good in pass protection against the two worst front-7 in the BIG. Wisc. is going to be a complete 180 from those two fronts.

Lee has proven to be a very bad QB when under duress; and he may very well be under duress.

need to hope you can find a way to establish the run early and prevent falling behind, forcing us to pass. Its also important to minimize 3rd and longs/obvious passing downs.

I learned that Illinois truly is very bad... hence, starting so many true freshman.

Hard to take away anything from NU's standpoint. There are a couple things, though.

Diaco seems to have no faith in our CBs playing press coverage; even if the opposing QB has shown NOTHING in the passing game. We're probably gonna see soft/off coverage the entire season.

Tanner Lee can look pretty good against a team that has no pass rush and runs Tampa-2 80% of the time. (a quick jab, but in all seriousness; he did look good w/o a constant pass rush).

Unfortunately; we cannot learn anything from the O-line from the Illinois or Rutgers games because the talent level of the opposing front-7 is so bare on both squads.

3 hours ago, billdozer15 said:

Is that TD number including a pick six or is that separated out?

I was considering predicting a pick-6; but Lee, eventually, has to have a game where one of his INT's isn't a pick-6, right?

I'm hoping, eventually, he has to have a game w/o an INT, entirely.... but today won't be that day.

Tanner Lee: 22/37 - 3 TD - 2 INT - I guess that's a big Day

Freedom Akinmoladun causes a lot of disruption. Carlos Davis continues his solid play.

1 hour ago, Enhance said:

Perhaps the answer to this is just finding ways to take responsibility out of Lee's hands. Easier said than done but it's clear his decision making isn't there and he's especially struggling with man under coverage.

 

For example, limit Lee's options....

One problem with this, though, is that Lee seems to think players with opposing jerseys are viable options. We need to find a way to get the opposing Defense to have less guys on the field

I think we should be able to beat Illinois.

Every other team will give our O-line issues with their front 7. (not saying Illinois front won't; it just won't be as difficult to handle them up front).

I thnik Purdue's front 7 looked (and has looked) pretty competitive, and that will cause us problems. I think it's a loss.

I think we find a way to beat NW at home; but fail to go to Minn and get a win.

Mike Bloomgren?

he's consistently put together some strong offensive lines at Stanford.

 Bill Bedenbaugh from Okla?

Drevno from Mich?

Whoever we bring in, it needs to be someone who is going to put major emphasis in the trenches.

1 hour ago, brophog said:

 

Those three teams sure have their fair share of them in the NFL. 

 

But I don't know what you guys mean by "pro style offense". Maybe the pros don't run one.

Most NFL teams are throwing roughly 35 times per game. They are looking for tackles (especially on the blind side) that fit the characteristics that I mentioned; unfortunately, there are only so many of those rare athletes that come around every recruiting class and they normally want to play for teams like USC, Mich, Ohio St., ND, (basically teams that have a tradition of running NFL style offense, that traditionally  send lots of tackles into the NFL early in the draft).

Wisc., Iowa, Mich St. Neb. are better suited towards recruiting bigger bodied lineman and developing them for 3+ years. At that point, there is certainly a place for guys like that in the NFL, as well (usually on the interior of the line, and later in the draft)

Key word is "develop." Wisc. seems to be winning at that dept. at this point.