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I miss Johnny Stanton...

I don't

Nothing is officially announced and the source is only a Minnesota official, but the news does sound about right for how the two universities are sweeping this under the rug.

 

It's not NU mentioning social media, but for the NU athletic department who has upped their social media game, they can't alienate social media to delegitimize the ONLY trophy fans talk about in a positive light. Don't cut off the hand that also feeds you.

I read somewhere that Shawn Eichorst ordered the trophy be destroyed because Mrs. Riley was allergic to it.

 

 

So...a broken chair is dumber than an axe, bronze pig named Floyd, Brass Spittoon, Oak Bucket, Brown jug and a statue of Paul Bunyan.

 

 

Hmmmmm......

DON'T FORGET THIS SHOP CLASS FAILURE

 

 

What is this poop!

 

When Penn State joined the B1G in 1993, Delany or some other scheduling wizard decided the Nittany Lions needed a "end of the regular season rivalry game."

So one was manufactured with Michigan State.

Michigan State followed by Penn State are the nation's oldest land-grant universities, therefore you get the "Land Grant Trophy."

In 1955 on the 100th year anniversary of the founding of the land grant system, Michigan State and Penn State were commemorated on a U.S. postage stamp honoring the "First of the Land-Grant Colleges". These two universities were the first ever universities to be placed on a U.S. postage stamp, which frankly would be a better looking trophy.

How about in Ann Arbor, 3 years ago this week?

This seemed like "a game that mattered."

http://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=333130130

 

 

Of course he's a better fit. It's his alma mater. All coaches fit at their alma mater. Doesn't always mean they're good, obviously (look at Neuheisel and UCLA), but Harbaugh is up on the level with Saban and Urban. He has the ability to turn teams around overnight, something that not even Saban could do. I mean, he gave USC their first loss at the Coliseum in 6 years back in 2007. Riley is obviously not the kind to turn teams around at the flick of a switch, which is why we need to be patient before we call for his firing. We are 7-2, no way he will be fired after this year. Neither will Banker unless his defense is as bad as last night. Langsdorf and Read could be shown the door and I'd be fine with that. A good HC fires his incompetent coordinators, and we need to see if HCMR can do that first.

 

Who hired the incompetent coordinators? Banker has been with MR for many years, MR should know his capabilities by now.

 

I don't think Banker was Riley's first choice for DC when he came to Nebraska.

IIRC, when Banker and Bray were the first announced for the defensive staff, neither were designated as coordinators. I think Riley was probably still looking for someone else for DC. When nothing panned out, Banker was the default.

Is this similar to the injury suffered by Shavon Shields? IIRC, he was out for almost 3 weeks.

 

 

 

Honest question - who could we have gotten. Say we have an AD who is ready to open up the checkbook as wide as can be - who was available that would have come?

You have to approach it from Eichorst's perspective -- the only streak for which he has direct responsibility is the sellout streak.

 

In that case, Mike Riley really was the best option for Eichorst.

 

Some fans felt alienated by Pelini, so Eichorst hired Mr. Nice Guy to soothe the egos of the "greatest fans in college football" and the local media.

100% agree. Riley wasn't hired to return NU to the promised land. No one hires a .500 career coach and thinks he is the guy with the skills to get us there. He was hired as the anti-Bo. The yin to his yang. Someone to change the public and national perception. Winning, well winning a lot, was and is a perc. I'm sure SE didn't hire him hoping or wanting him to lose. Hired knowing he would be good enough to probably get us to a bowl every year, soothe feelings and move on when his contract expired. Riley might be the guy. His staff might be good, but using the scientific "eye ball" test that is praised for its accuracy on this board, I'd say no to some of them....

 

Time will tell if my gut feeling and I suppose a lot of people's gut feelings are proven right and Frost ends up here. I'm not saying he's the guy to take us back by any means, we honestly have no clue. But the reason folks didn't want him was because he was a coordinator with no head coaching experience like Bo was. So Scott goes to UCF and gets the experience, this job opens in a few years or whatever and he has his shot to coach at his college.

 

I get that a lot of fans pine for Scott Frost, but when has Frost ever shown any interest in coming back to Lincoln?

He was booed as a player, had some blame placed on him in the Lawrence Phillips/Kate McEwen incident -- not to mention NU wasn't even his first choice out of Wood River -- he transferred back when he couldn't beat out Steve Stenstrom at Stanford QB.

Does anyone honestly think Tom Osborne would advise Frost to take a HC job at Nebraska? I don't. He's seen what happened to Solich and Pelini.

If Frost is successful, he will have better coaching options with a less entitled demanding fan base.

OK -- here's a hypothetical: Suppose Nebraska wins out the regular season, and Minnesota upsets Wisconsin on 11/28 in Madison.

How many Husker fans show up in Indianapolis?

That will tell you if fans have "given up."

Honest question - who could we have gotten. Say we have an AD who is ready to open up the checkbook as wide as can be - who was available that would have come?

You have to approach it from Eichorst's perspective -- the only streak for which he has direct responsibility is the sellout streak.

In that case, Mike Riley really was the best option for Eichorst.

Some fans felt alienated by Pelini, so Eichorst hired Mr. Nice Guy to soothe the egos of the "greatest fans in college football" and the local media.

NU will continue to "gamble" when it comes to any new coaching hire. There is no anchor to the Devaney/Osborne era, the AD and fan base have driven them all off.

From my point of view, I knew Billy C was a bad fit for Nebraska, and I had to suffer until he was fired. I was then very hopeful. TO was AD, Bo put together ferocious defenses, we lost the BIG XII championship by one second, then were robbed of the BIG XII championship against TaM by the refs. I was very optimistic when we joined the BIG. And things looked great, we won our division and were facing a 5 loss team in the championship game, then the wheels fell off. I don't know if it was the loss of Sanders or Carl, or Bo's stubbornness, but our D was gone. After suffering humiliating blowouts, we get a chance for a new coach, and we hire a career 500 coach and that coach hires his cronies instead of the best assistants possible. That was a huge kick in the gut. Then we hear about there being no need to re-build, that we will win now, and we have a losing season with losses to Purdue and Illinois. Then this year we have hope again, 7-0, and an OT loss to Wisconsin, and Lucy pulls the football away again, and we get a curb stomp on national TV, confirming all my doubts about this staff. My desperation arises from a lack of faith that this staff can get the job done, and a lack of faith that if the staff is ever replaced, that another poor coach will be hired.

My concern is that this fan base never gets past its sense of entitlement and continues to fail to enjoy what they have.

The more relevant question would be: Would you rather be us or Notre Dame right now?

For all of Pelini's and Riley's faults, neither has killed a student videographer.

This will come off sounding like an idiot but where do you think we would be at this time if we hired Jim Tressel instead of HCMR

Under NCAA investigation.

There's an even bigger gap in coaching between Michigan and NU, than a talent gap. Don Brown is one of the best defensive minds in football.

NU fans refuse to acknowledge that coaching matters; the knee jerk reaction is ALWAYS BLAME THE PLAYERS.

There was not a 59 point talent gap last night.

NU treated the Wisconsin loss like a moral victory and thought everything would be fine against Ohio State.

The coaches didn't have the team ready to play tonight. There are deficiencies on both lines, but they aren't as bad as we showed.

BOTTOM LINE -- The team didn't show up mentally, and Nebraska has problems since the 1999 season with this.

Maybe it is just me, but i dont feel like we have anywhere near the talent depth of schools like Ohio State. I also dont think that issue is something to blame the current staff about, and they are trying to fill that.

Do Penn State, Wisconsin and Northwestern have more talent depth than Ohio State? Their games against the Buckeyes were all competitive.

At some point, you have to consider coaching.

Is Riley now known as 59?

No that was Sarpy County.

Are completely unacceptable at Nebraska.

Blowouts were unacceptable under Pelini and Callahan.

Riley needs to be put on notice immediately by Eichorst.

They should be repossessed after the game.

I wonder how much Ohio State pays their special teams coordinator to come up with ideas such as placing kickoffs just inside the left corner of the endzone?

In other games in progress, Oregon currently losing to USC 45-13 midway through the 4th.

It just sucks to know at halftime the chances of winning are nil. I just hope NU can keep it respectable.

 

 

 

Sad part is, I can't even mad anymore. This has been the norm 18 years now.

Same here...I think we have the talent. Now the staff though.........at least the coordinators

I think the opposite.

 

Why do you think we have the talent ?

 

Is that what you think is on display tonight? Two equally talented teams with one just being severely out coached ?

We have more talent than Wisconsin and Northwestern, and they didn't get murdered like this.

 

This.