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5 hours ago, Stumpy1 said:

Nixon and Brown are about 4” taller but nice try.   Frost's last true Duck-R guy was Washington and I'm guessing he was hoping Robinson would have been the same but that didn't go as planned.  I do think that he will try and use Nixon and Brown in the same capacity that he used Washington.  

55 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

Nixon and Brown are both listed at 5-11.  Robinson was listed as 5-10.  I don't think Robinson was that tall but I don't think they are 4 inches taller.

 

Either way, they are very similar players.  Just because Robinson happened to be one of the shortest guys we've ever had doesn't mean everyone else playing the same role has to be that short.  Nixon and Brown are considerably shorter than most of the other receivers we are recruiting.

From what I saw, JD and Wandale were pretty much the exact same size. A few years ago, I had a class with JD and he couldn't have been more than 5'8". Probably more like 5'7" 170 if I had to wager. With that said, I think a lot of the athletes are generously listed when it comes to their heights and weights at NU, even the taller guys.  

And, I'm not saying that JD and Robinson (or any players like them) had no place on the team either. They were great players and would have been able to have been better utilized if there was more around them. That's not their fault, this staff has ultimately failed at getting more (and bigger) offensive weapons on the field up to this point. Hopefully that's changing now. 

For the record, NU needed more size. Although this notion that they should abandon the Duck-R/small shifty receiver seems a bit short-sighted to me. Why can't you have both? Pretty sure the most successful NFL franchise of the last 20 years has pretty much always featured some small quick guys (Welker, Edelman, Woodhead...etc.) as fairly significant parts of their offenses. And I'd venture to say Bill Belichick knows a bit more about football than any of us do. 

4 hours ago, Landlord said:

 

 

He didn't suck bad enough to give Frost an excuse to be facing down another losing season late into year two. 

So much this. In my opinion, coaching cost last year's team 2-3 games, easily. Yet, it was largely attributed to the losing culture created by Riley and his staff. Despite how bad Riley sucked...the 2018 team could have (and probably should have) made a bowl game. It hasn't been kosher to criticize Frost until relatively recently. But damn, this is on him. People want to blame the assistants, and they may be bad, but Frost hired them and it's his offense has been inconsistent garbage all year. 

The routine is really getting tired. It's the same sh#t every single week and literally nothing changes lol

2 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

Literally no one is making that excuse.

 

Literally. No one.

Kind of a strange thing to split hairs on. This type of excuse has been floated around to excuse Frost’s mediocrity at Nebraska. Like maybe not those exact words every single time but it’s been implied. A lot. I think it’s safe to say Frost has not met expectations, to say the least.

We've all heard the excuses, the lack of talent, everything's Riley's fault...etc. But how many games the last two years has this team blown due to poor in-game coaching? Still hopeful but it's hard to be optimistic when Frost looks so in over his head. 

Can Dedrick Young please graduate?

Martinez? If they had named Gebbia the starter, Martinez would almost certainly still be here. Gebbia had already burned his redshirt and was not an ideal fit for the system, I wasn't surprised at all that he transferred. If Burrow came here and started, Martinez still could've been a starter for three years, in a system perfectly suited for him.

11 minutes ago, Decoy73 said:

A few questions. Where exactly is Frost supposed to easily find a quarterback in the spring or summer  as you suggested earlier?  You think it’s acceptable to quit on your teammates the week before the season because you aren’t the day one starter?  You actually think that Gebbia has no blame for our quarterback situation?  I’m trying to figure out if I’m completely off base or if you’re Gebbia’s Dad or just a Frost hater, etc.  

They could've gone after Burrow. It's not exactly like it's impossible to find a mobile grad transfer or JUCO during the offseason, it could have been done. Also, I never said Gebbia has no blame for the current quarterback situation, I'm saying Frost deserves most of the blame. It's really not that complicated and criticizing Frost doesn't make you a hater. 

18 minutes ago, Decoy73 said:

Really?  So Frost should just name a starter in the spring so the other guy can just go ahead and transfer.  Then he can start adding these other quarterbacks to the roster who are so easily found in the offseason.  The current quarterback situation is 90% on Gebbia.  He chose to quit on his team 5 days before the first game because it was always about him and not the team.  He basically took up half the fall camp reps that otherwise could have gone to Bunch for nothing.  I guarentee you if the coaches had any inkling that Gebbia was going to grab his ball and run home if he wasn't the starter, he would have been shown the road a long time ago.   I'm surprised more people don't seen to be too upset about Gebbia leaving.  Don't give me this "he's only a college kid" or "just trying to pursue his hopes and dreams" BS.  This is big time football with high stakes.

I'm not saying Frost should've done it in Spring but he could've left himself more than a week. Gebbia did what many college football players do, he transferred, it may have been selfish but I don't blame him. Martinez is going to keep improving and Gebbia is never going to be able to run like that, why should Gebbia have stayed then? The deck was stacked against him. This situation is on Frost for handling it poorly,  quarterbacks transferring is always a possibility in today's game, don't leave yourself with no time to fix it. 

28 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

So, Frost was supposed to name a starter after the spring, even though he had seen the QB's for 15 practices over the Spring?

When did I say that? Frost knows this offense works better with a running quarterback, there's a reason he went with a true freshman who has had injury problems and hasn't played in two years. I'm not sure why they didn't go after a transfer who was a better fit when they had the chance to, it doesn't make a lot of sense. 

I know we're still in the honeymoon period with Frost but I think he has handled the quarterback position rather poorly since taking over. It blows my mind that they waited so long to name a starter and then were left with basically nothing (aside from Martinez) when Gebbia transferred. They easily could have found another quarterback during the spring or summer.

Bubba Starling

Hindsight being 20/20, this looks like a real wtf decision. But it still looked like a good one going into 2010/11...we all know Pelini flamed out and couldn't deal with the B1G.  That said, after Bo and Miles, I'm not sure Osborne influencing any more coaching searches is a good thing.

Sure, Lee hasn't lived up to all of the hype but he's not a bad QB, it's too bad the season started with all the INTs. He played well tonight.

Also, this coaching staff blows 

It's kind of hard to be mad about this game if it further solidifies Riley being gone

8 minutes ago, brophog said:

 

3rd down percentage is another noisy stat, and therefore not very predictive. A better thing to look at is passing stats, because 3rd down is generally a passing stat, so that greatly reduces the noise. Or look at success rates, because that will rate your ability to stay on schedule for all downs, not just 3rd down.

 

The real issue, and we've known this all season, is this team's pass defense is suspect. 

True but it seems like the team has a mental block when it comes to 3rd down because they're so mentally weak overall. 

1 minute ago, Nebfanatic said:

Am I advocating we keep Riley past this season? No. Firing him now does nothing but upset the players. We would look worse than we do now with Diaco running the show imo. At least getting rid of or maybe just demoting Langs will possibly result in better play calling so it doesn't look so ugly before the next guy comes and cleans it up. It's pretty clear we will have a new head coach next year so really it doesn't matter what we do with this situation. It's now or later. I just think later results in less damage control.

Ah, I get what you're saying but I'm not sure how could they get any worse than last night...regardless of who's coach lol

18 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

Keep Riley. If we want to do anything we should fire Langsdorf and make Mike take over the offense the rest of the year

Because firing Banker and hiring Diaco really changed things for the defense. It's almost like there's a common denominator here...like the same head coach or something

Mike Riley isn't even the same guy who'd occasionally slay a giant at Oregon St., he's completely lost it. Every week it gets consistently more mind-boggling that Eichorst hired him.

I mean, it's not surprising but it's still disturbing. 

Gotta hope Spielman is okay, guy has been one of our few bright spots

I still can't comprehend how anyone could be worse than Banker but Diaco has really made a run

This situation is Lang's dream, the only option is to pass!

1 minute ago, grandpasknee said:

It is playoff focused football in 2017.  It isn't Urban's job to keep their score down, it is ours.

I get that, and he'd still be a complete douche if he were our coach. 

Just now, grandpasknee said:

Because of the score and playing hard?

No, but going for it on fourth down when you're up 49-14 is classless.