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11 hours ago, Decoy73 said:

You make good points about IA and UW, but I'm curious.  Which teams on the 2018 schedule, other than OSU and UM, do you think have more pure "talent" than us?  Not saying your wrong or anything, I just personally feel that outside of these two (ohio & the team up north), we are at worst EQUAL talent wise with every other team on the schedule.  In fact I consider MSUcks and Wiskyd#ck far better in the player development and coaching categories over the last several years than NU, but not more talented.  Iowa, NW, Minny, Purdue, IL, non-con ALL less talent.  Of those, Iowa and NW until now, have had better coaching and development/culture, but certainly not better talent.  Just my opinion.  

I would say OSU, PSU, UM, WI, MSU, Iowa, and NW are all better or equal to us in regards to skill and talent... I think OSU, PSU, and UM are probably the only teams in the conference with more athleticism and potential.

11 hours ago, runningblind said:

I completely disagree that Iowa and Wisconsin have  better talent.  They have simply out worked and out smarted us year in and year out. They wanted it, we didn't.  Michigan, Penn State. Ohio State and possibly Michigan State out class us right now, that is it.

 

Things are changing right before your eyes. It is ok to sip some koolaid...try it, you'll like it...

 

 

13 hours ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

There's talent and there's coaching. The rankings aren't perfect, but they're not so wrong as to get it wrong every damn year. Wisconsin and Iowa have out-coached/out-developed us, but they don't have more raw talent than us.

I think we are basically arguing the same point, but schematics...

I think recruiting rankings are a good indicator, but pretty much worthless after their Fresh or Soph seasons. I think Wisconsin and Iowa have produced better talent than NU, even if they aren't as athletic as us. I think NU is more athletic, and we probably have more potential in regards to development of talent, but I disagree that we are more talented right now (or over the past 5 years anyway)...... I think Iowa and Wisconsin have clearly shown to have better passing-skill, ball skills, better foot work, better blocking, shed blocking ect.

I don't think they are light years ahead of us, and I think we'll see drastic improvement this season already, but if we broke it down position by position of which team has a more NFL ready talent at each position group, then I don't think NU has an argument other than WR and maybe RB.

3 hours ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

We consistently rank at the top of the west in recruiting....we rarely have a talent issue unless going against tOSU. 

I disagree with that to a certain degree. I think its a fairly easy fix because we have recruited pretty well, but I don't think there is any question that Wisconsin and Iowa have consistently better talent than us. Maybe it's debatable, but I think it's pretty clear they have both been much better in the trenches than us, and also at QB, RB, CB, and LB too.... I think we're more on par with NW or Minny to be honest - and neither are going to win the West this season.

Not that our players don't have the potential to fix the issues within a year or two, but for as much as we've out-recruited the West, the West has out trained and coached us.

Maybe Frost's system can help cover-up some of the gap, and there is no question we've already stated to address the issues, but we probably aren't going to have the most talent on the field for more than 3 or 4 games this season, and "on par" talent another 3 or 4 games imo.

43 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

Very interesting. Minnesota? 

Yeah, just a shot in the dark, I'm going to be at that game. 

I'm going with 8-4. I'm bullish on our home games, and think we probably compete with everyone on the road other that probably OSU and maybe Wiscy. Because of all the unknowns with this team, and the quality of our opponents, I think we will probably only go 1-4 on the road, possibly 2-3, but then drop one at home that we shouldn't or something like that.... The most likely road win being either NW or Iowa, but with the way UCF played UM in the big house during Frosts first season with them, I'm not ready to give up hope on that game.

09/01 - Akron - W

09/08 - Colorado - W

09/15 - Troy - W

09/22 - @ Michigan - W

09/29 - Purdue - W

10/06 - @ Wisconsin - L

10/13 - @ Northwestern - W

10/20 - Minnesota - L

11/03 - @ Ohio State - L

11/10 - Illinois - W

11/17 - Michigan State - W

11/23 - @ Iowa - L

24 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

Seems like most kids who tie a percentage to how committed they are usually end up decommiting at some point 

That could be true, but I think with this kid it has to do more with his playing number 20. I don't think he's boasting or anything about his "level" of commitment, more about his favorite number.

On 4/19/2018 at 11:25 AM, Mavric said:

 

I hope Dewitt told him that he needs to be in seat 1A on the bus heading to Indy in December.

I will eternally consider Penn State as #2.... Get it?

1 hour ago, swmohusker said:

great measurables and is a physical tackler.  Not sure if teams didn't throw his way or what, but not a ton of film on him covering or playing the ball in the air.  Kid is rated low but with has a high ceiling.  

That could be true, but not at the tuf Missouri tiggers he doesn't.

Boy, there is an awful lot of finger pointing going on in recruiting these days.

How many years does he have to play? Redshirt?

7 minutes ago, Stumpy1 said:

Visiting this weekend.

Omg, everybody tweet him!!

Jk

Held needs a giant N poster to cove up all those other posters. Maybe a fathead of Frost.

I think Frost knew right around the time of the meeting in Philly, so I can sympathize with the kid on that front. But at the same time, whether Frost knew or not, it was his responsibility to work in UCF's best interest, not NU's. It was a catch-22 moment for Frost. Damned if you do damned if you don't.

It might have just been a slip of the mind on Frosts part too by phrasing it that way - unintentionally painting himself into a box. I talk to a lot of different clients/customers at work, and when I'm tired and client asks me a point blank question (that answering sometimes violate other clients' rights), sometime its tough to phrase an answer that isn't construed in the wrong way - especially when one is naturally honest and candid with people like Frost seems to be.... I can imagine Frost having some troubles with that aspect of everything. I doubt he meant or wanted to lie to recruits, but he couldn't just spill the beans to a 17 Y/O kid only for it to blow up on Twitter.

These parents need to do a better job of explaining that part of life, because everyone, even Eriq, is put in a similar situation catch-22 moment at some point in life.

8 minutes ago, Sparker said:

 

Lots of teams play a legit schedule and also have to get through a CCG. imo the lack of a ccg win should count against them.

I try to put NU into their shoes. And I've thought that if NU were to ever go independent and still expect to be included in the playoff discussion that we would need to do a few things.

1. Go undefeated

2. Play ND the weekend of conference title games essentially giving us both a CCG

3. No bye week, even if not all opponents aren't world beaters, we would play 1 more game than the P5 conference champions, and 2 more games than the schools that didn't make their CCG. Use it against them.

Yeah his composit ranking makes no sense to me... He's #23 on espn, #67 on 247, and a 4* on rivals, but #88 overall on the composite?

3 minutes ago, Football Guy Bob said:

I doubt Moos is calling recruits.  If anyone would it would be McShane and Wilhite.

Agreed, it would be more harmful than good for Moos to make contact with any recruits.

7 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Lol who are you to say what anyone does with their lives. I've seen people wear other schools clothing at games. Get over it 

Yeah it happens all the time. I've seen plenty of Iowa and KST fans at NU games over years. I've even seen Tennessee fans in memorial stadium... The worst are the NU fans who appear to be fans of the other team. Forrest Gump: It happens.

This might be the last time one of those Husker fans gets a chance to watch a Frost coached team in person. Who knows.

Until proven otherwise, he's going to have alternating 6-win teams and undefeated teams every other year.

36 minutes ago, InOmaha said:

Nebraska played football this year?

Yeah, but it was Canadian football.

5 hours ago, brophog said:

 

He's an enormous risk. I've said, and will continue to say, I'd fire him in three years of he's not getting the job done as there may be little point in going past that if he can't show he can bust through this artificial ceiling we've had most of this century. If you want to compete at the highest level, you have to take risks. 

 

But.....the above quote also has a lot of truth. While Frost is a risk, bigger than I think most want to admit, the promise and potential of Frost has united this fan base in a way we haven't seen in forever. We got that a little in Pelini's first years but there was so much angst and division in the Solich and Callahan decisions that the on field excitement couldn't translate into off field community. Whether Frost ultimately succeeds or not, we will enter an era of unity of which is a long time coming.

Logic like this is why we might always suck. It took TO 22 years, and he actually inherited a good program.

I'm not pointing a finger at you necessarily, but some fans think that 7 or 8 wins "isn't gettingthe job done".... If we only have 8 wins for a decade, then I might agree. But after 3 years, if we've only put 8 wins together, then Frost is doing pretty well for the mess that this program has become.

We need a good coach and leader, but we also need consistency and stability. Giving up after 3 years is nonsense, it takes longer than that to establish a new system... We might have successful teams in the mean time, but it's going to take 6 or 7 years, at a minimum, to establish a consistent conference/nationally competitive program. It takes time to recruit the players you want, and structure the roster the way he'll like. Which is to say there will be some on the field inconsistency in our next 3 years - and that's no reason to give up on a guy. 

5 minutes ago, RedNebraskan said:

Here's a line from that article: 

 

Scott Frost may have been born in Nebraska, but he was born again in Orlando.

Is he trying to say that Scott named his son Scott?

59 minutes ago, I.M. OLD said:

 

So if there is 100+ teams and you are around 25 that’s average??  Sorry I don’t do “new” math

Camped to 125 teams, sure you make a point. Compared to what we should be, our where we have been, as a program, not even close. 

If you think our OL roster (or RB, QB, DL, LB, or DB) is anything but average in comparison to what the "average" roster of any of NU conference title winning teams liked like, then you are going to be really disappointed with how the next 3 years go.

Outside of WR, do we have one player on this roster that would start for one of Osborne or even Solich coached teams? Let alone one of the teams that won anything of significance?

17 minutes ago, I.M. OLD said:

Average Roster?????? Minnesota is an average roster, and their average roster kicked our top 25-30 roster's butt's. According to all the "experts" we have the second best talent in the Big West and many years the best in the West. Just because this staff did not develop the kids and often picked the kids that were not gamers, does not mean that their is no talent, it means the coaches failed the kids.

Excuse me for calling the best roster in the B10 West average.