The Big Nebrowski

Appears Riley is upgrading from Beav ass'ts to Domer guys, eh? Why didn't he do this from the get go?

I got this: America's 1st and Nazi Germany circa 1937 is in the 2 spot.

I'm tempted to use the "C" word re DeVos, but its reserved for Conway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

What don't you follow? It's a pretty simple concept.

I want studs top and bottom, as many as possible, that's what I'm saying.

Who doesn't? And...how does that contradict my post?

You mentioned "studs" vs the other "bottom" guys. Nvm, semantics, I guess..

He's pointing out that our top to bottom is getting better. Very easy to see, not sure how you're missing it.

 

And yeah, who doesn't want 5* talent top to bottom? Not sure why you think you're the only one. For someone who claims to be realistic...

According to his numbers, over the course of 5 yrs the recruiting has "improved" by 0.032. To me, realistically speaking, those #s are irrelevant, unless of course you like the tiniest of baby steps. We've been in a recruiting holding pattern from Bo til now. You recruit @ 20 something, you finish @ 20 something.

For someone who claims to be interested in recruiting, you don't seem to understand recruiting ratings much. A 0.032 difference is actually substantial, especially when you are talking about an average.

 

Feel free to keep making assumptions without doing any reasearch or bringing actual data to the table. I'm guessing you are a climate skeptic too.

 

 

 

What don't you follow? It's a pretty simple concept.

I want studs top and bottom, as many as possible, that's what I'm saying.

Well no sh#t. I think we all do. But you don't go from where we are to there overnight. You improve your core top to bottom (which was the point to the post being referenced) and then develop those recruits into better players, and then you win a few more games with said improvement

 

More wins on the field gets us better recruits

which become better players

which win more on the field

that gets us better recruits

 

which become better players

which win more on the field

that gets us better recruits

 

which become better players

which win more on the field....

 

You get it yet????

Re recruiting, I repeat, "holding pattern".

But yeah, I got all that, but thanks for breaking it down again for me.

So, to recap, we beat out SDSU for a 2-3* NE kid who has academic probs and no other offers and is "great" Omaha competition where we rarely gain any other recruits and this is the only back that decided to come to NE. Why should I be concerned, right?

2 yrs ago we were scratching to get Ozig and las year the same w Tre--both slowish 3*. Why should I be concerned, right.

Pretty sure Bradley was a guy the staff wanted to take all along if he got his grades in order. Don't think he was a reach or a backup plan really. He is a good back

 

 

 

 

 

 

This stuff just breaks my heart. I don't understand this sort of thing that is described in this story.

 

 

 

NEBRASKA (NTV) Right now, there is sex for sale somewhere in Nebraska. Its a crime that plays out in parking lots, at truck stops, in hotels and homes; but its not always between two consenting adults, like we see with prostitution.

Instead, experts say its often human trafficking, someone being held prisoner and forced into a life they never wanted to be a part of.

http://nebraska.tv/news/local/sex-for-sale-in-nebraska-human-trafficking-hidden-in-plain-sight

Hard to believe it's happening within the US.

Been going on for years. OK has been an epicenter for sex trafficing for yrs and now its in NE. Well, if there was no demand...

 

Migrant/immigrant farm labor is to a large degree labor trafficking, same model, just labor instead of sex, though there can be overlap.

you can't be serious

Oh, construction, nannies, all kinds of stuff. Its the "new" slave labor.

 

"Migrant workers are especially targets of human trafficking and forced labor, ..."

 

http://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.solidaritycenter.org/what-we-do/migration-and-human-trafficking/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiAkaiQnIHSAhXCi1QKHehdCZwQFggOMAA&sig2=MddxmhqTEzt8_EJO93K0tQ&usg=AFQjCNHo4C8KWM703ADvpqQUenplM4qPEQ

 

Or just google, "human trafficking, migrant labor"

Wait, what? People are nanny-ing against their will?

Well, everything the Ape Prez has ever touched in his life has involved lawsuits.

Read, "The Making of Donald Trump"(David K Johnston)

 

 

 

 

 

 

What don't you follow? It's a pretty simple concept.

 

I want studs top and bottom, as many as possible, that's what I'm saying.

Who doesn't? And...how does that contradict my post?

You mentioned "studs" vs the other "bottom" guys. Nvm, semantics, I guess..

He's pointing out that our top to bottom is getting better. Very easy to see, not sure how you're missing it.

And yeah, who doesn't want 5* talent top to bottom? Not sure why you think you're the only one. For someone who claims to be realistic...

He has demanded it in 224 straight posts, he wants it more than you.... Quit settling for average backs. 8-9 wins hope you like it. You do, I can tell. Leonard Fournette.....

Ameer Abdullah! Running Back! Need more horses!

Nobody has really explained to me why we only got one 2* guy from Omaha, though, was anybody else even interested? Calabasas, anything?

 

 

Good points re the OL. I surely haven't been contending that it's all on the RBs.

 

So @ tOSU, what happened there? No answers from either the OL, the RBs, or the coaches. I tend to think they were athletically superior to us across the board, which is my main contention in wanting to get better RBs. In your opinion, what happened in that game?

 

Also, as to Bradly(Bellevue RB) the only vid I've seen of him shows him running wild mainly in space, nothng between the tackles. Is he a physical runner, can he break tackles and make things happen?

 

I don't mean to over-generalize your statements, but I just saw strong conversations back and forth about the RB position. The OL has been my talking point this off-season regarding the running game.

 

As for OSU, there are two overly simplified items that could be said for the game. The first being that we lost our 4 year starting QB. He was carted off the field and taken to the hospital by ambulance. Now, one could say you just play through that, but that's a lot for a team of college students to see happen to a teammate. The second is the defense.

 

Regarding the first, even with Tommy in, he was throwing the deep ball and missing. He's usually good for 1 maybe 2 of those a game, but he hit zero of them. Tommy had issues reading the field, but he had bigger issues with just always throwing the deep ball no matter what. I contend that a QB who doesn't play that way is an upgrade. Is Tanner Lee that guy? I'm not sure, I haven't seen him play, but if he cuts down on half of the Yolo Bombs and into a few more completions that keep a drive alive. I like it. (FTR, I loved Tommy, he was tough). Regardless, this game you really started to see the issues of the OL. Add that to the fact that you're playing from behind, and losing starting QB. Throw in a cold QB who didn't practice the game plan as intensely as your starter against one of the best teams in the nation. I don't know if more needs to be said. They just didn't get it together.

 

And then there's the defense. OSU had themselves a game, and well, we gave up a lot of big plays. I don't know how successful Bob Diaco and his system will be, but the "quarters" system wasn't that great of a fit for this team. Gerry was someone I think will look better in the pro's than his last year here. And that's saying A LOT, because he still looked good. But I think he will thrive outside of the quarters system in the NFL (of course, depending on where he goes).

 

Generally speaking, a lot of teams look bad playing from behind. Every team in the nation, even the best of them, look desperate throwing the ball a lot when playing behind. The difference is how well your QB throws in those situations. Tommy missed on targets, and so did Ryker. Add all that up and you get a lot of 3 and outs. Then just making your defense go out there again and again. But almost every team gets in that funk at some point. Ours was against a playoff team. OSU did the same thing in their playoff game. Rushing only 23 times (11 were from JT Barrett, 3 of those were sacks), and Barrett throwing 2 INTs. Washington also did it in their game against Bama.

 

As for Bradley (that's his name!), I saw him squeeze through holes and get some tough yards. He also has more TD's in Memorial Stadium than the rest of the returning RB's... Of course, this is against HS athletes, so that should be taken into account. Still, after seeing him play in person, I like the kid. But I have been wrong about prospects before.

The 3 points doesn't sit well, though. After TA went down, one would think we could line up and mostly pound the rock and at least get a could of scores on them.

As to Bradley, well, a guy has to be able to break tackles and that was Newby's big problem--otherwise a pretty good back. But when you look at his dirth of offers, gotta be honest, sends up red flags for me. Usually at least Ohio or YSU or UCF now will offer NE players. And he was the only guy we got, makes me nervous. King Frazier was just as good, prlly, looked real good on film, and he bolted to NDSU, couldn't get more than the 3rd spot.

Ok, my man, thanks.

 

 

 

 

What don't you follow? It's a pretty simple concept.

I want studs top and bottom, as many as possible, that's what I'm saying.

Who doesn't? And...how does that contradict my post?

You mentioned "studs" vs the other "bottom" guys. Nvm, semantics, I guess..

He's pointing out that our top to bottom is getting better. Very easy to see, not sure how you're missing it.

 

And yeah, who doesn't want 5* talent top to bottom? Not sure why you think you're the only one. For someone who claims to be realistic...

 

 

 

What don't you follow? It's a pretty simple concept.

I want studs top and bottom, as many as possible, that's what I'm saying.

Who doesn't? And...how does that contradict my post?

I'd like to come in and add some points about what happened to the running game this season.

 

The main thing was that Langsdorf did not trust the line to pull. See this article before the Wisconsin game:

http://journalstar.com/sports/huskers/sipple/steven-m-sipple-huskers-lack-of-fullback-carries-this-season/article_0a0e9415-1f21-5a53-b038-9e817ec5eae2.html

 

And there are tons of reasons why he didn't trust the line to pull. I want to use this play from Illinois to illustrate the point (image from Husker Chalk Talk, which should be a must visit, https://huskerchalktalk.com/2016/10/05/illinois-tricking-the-beast-with-four-heads/ ):

 

This is a QB Dart play, a play that utilized by a lot of teams. Here there's a pulling T. The pulling T is not the issue here, it's the T on the otherside, who just plainly whiffs his block. This makes the pulling T block the guy Knevel was supposed to block. This blows the play up and the OLB who was supposed to be blocked by pulling T makes the play. Additionally, they are/were young. Getting comfortable to "pull" has come along for the T's. The line in 2017 will be more talented and of course more experienced than this last year (not to mention healthy).

 

Issues like this consistently happened. So much so that we only saw 1 pulling play vs Wisconsin (short TD run by Ozigbo), 1 puller vs. Minny, 5(!) vs Maryland, and 5(!) vs Iowa. (The other games after Wisconsin were zero, unless I missed something, which is incredibly possible, I'm not adding Tenn because I haven't watched it again, but I did see at least a couple).

 

So why the big deal on pullers? As the article above from Sipple states, it opens up a lot of things. Sipple was asking about FB runs, which work incredibly well as a trap. Which, we all know from experience. A trap doesn't work without consistent execution from pullers and the rest of the line. But we didn't have that from our OL this year. Heck, we didn't run a true RB counter until Iowa.

 

So we practically ran inside zone, outside zone, and jet sweep after Wisconsin, and that's it. The reason for the poor running game late in the season was NOT because of RB. It was because we were limited with the abilities of the OL. I am sure the RB's could have done better in some instances (I know I have my complaints) but I don't know if you could complain too much about RB's and RB's only.

 

With that being said, I look forward to watching Tre Bryant. I think he has what we are looking for if the OL can get it together. And honestly, I really like the kid from Bell West. His name escapes me, but having seen him play, I was incredibly impressed.

 

I'm sure there will be plenty more argument regarding RB's, but I just wanted to add that you can't blame everything on RB's.

I'd like to come in and add some points about what happened to the running game this season.

 

The main thing was that Langsdorf did not trust the line to pull. See this article before the Wisconsin game:

http://journalstar.com/sports/huskers/sipple/steven-m-sipple-huskers-lack-of-fullback-carries-this-season/article_0a0e9415-1f21-5a53-b038-9e817ec5eae2.html

 

And there are tons of reasons why he didn't trust the line to pull. I want to use this play from Illinois to illustrate the point (image from Husker Chalk Talk, which should be a must visit, https://huskerchalktalk.com/2016/10/05/illinois-tricking-the-beast-with-four-heads/ ):

 

This is a QB Dart play, a play that utilized by a lot of teams. Here there's a pulling T. The pulling T is not the issue here, it's the T on the otherside, who just plainly whiffs his block. This makes the pulling T block the guy Knevel was supposed to block. This blows the play up and the OLB who was supposed to be blocked by pulling T makes the play. Additionally, they are/were young. Getting comfortable to "pull" has come along for the T's. The line in 2017 will be more talented and of course more experienced than this last year (not to mention healthy).

 

Issues like this consistently happened. So much so that we only saw 1 pulling play vs Wisconsin (short TD run by Ozigbo), 1 puller vs. Minny, 5(!) vs Maryland, and 5(!) vs Iowa. (The other games after Wisconsin were zero, unless I missed something, which is incredibly possible, I'm not adding Tenn because I haven't watched it again, but I did see at least a couple).

 

So why the big deal on pullers? As the article above from Sipple states, it opens up a lot of things. Sipple was asking about FB runs, which work incredibly well as a trap. Which, we all know from experience. A trap doesn't work without consistent execution from pullers and the rest of the line. But we didn't have that from our OL this year. Heck, we didn't run a true RB counter until Iowa.

 

So we practically ran inside zone, outside zone, and jet sweep after Wisconsin, and that's it. The reason for the poor running game late in the season was NOT because of RB. It was because we were limited with the abilities of the OL. I am sure the RB's could have done better in some instances (I know I have my complaints) but I don't know if you could complain too much about RB's and RB's only.

 

With that being said, I look forward to watching Tre Bryant. I think he has what we are looking for if the OL can get it together. And honestly, I really like the kid from Bell West. His name escapes me, but having seen him play, I was incredibly impressed.

 

I'm sure there will be plenty more argument regarding RB's, but I just wanted to add that you can't blame everything on RB's.

So @ tOSU, what happened there? No answers from either the OL, the RBs, or the coaches. I tend to think they were athletically superior to us across the board, which is my main contention in wanting to get better RBs. In your opinion, what happened in that game?

Also, as to Bradly(Bellevue RB) the only vid I've seen of him shows him running wild mainly in space, nothng between the tackles. Is he a physical runner, can he break tackles and make things happen?

 

 

 

 

 

We currently don't have any great backs, it just so happens they were all 3* recruits.

Mikale Wilbon and Adam Taylor were both :star :star 's coming out of high school.

https://nebraska.rivals.com/commitments/football/2013

 

Interestingly enough, they both keep getting beat out for playing time and the #1 RB spot by "just 3 stars". Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Had hi hopes for Taylor, thought he may the next big thang. Well, he had bad knees coming in, bad ACL injuries in h.s., if I recall. Still, was supposedly cleared, but then I think he injured them again @ NU. So we will never know.

Haven't completely given up on Wilbon, shows some flashes but doesn't look to be a between the tackle guy. Not big on blocking either, as yet, which is what is mainly keeping him off the field. Perhaps he was overrated, yes, overrated. Tre deserves a 4th star over him. Tre appears to have a chance, we shall see.

 

Didn't you already write him off earlier in this thread? Saying he would never be a 1,000 yard back?

"appears to have a chance". You undertsand English, right. I don't think I said "never", but if I did, what I mean is, at best, I think he will gravitate around 1000 yds and that may not be every year from here on out. I like the kid, I'm hopin' for some upside. But, as of now, I don't see him as being any more distinguishable than any other "good" back that any other average team has.

I get it, you're trying to get a rise outta me. Keep swinging.

Maybe, when you get a chance, you can provide your own insights as to why any of our current backs will be more than just servicable.

Otherwise, why don't you just run along and bother somebody else.

That's my point. I, nor anybody else that I've seen, has made the argument that our current running backs will be anything more then serviceable. You just continue to argue with yourself. Nobody has argued that we don't need to recruit better running backs. Some, myself included, have taken issue with you discounting the potential of Tre Bryant after his Freshman year, or even Ozigbo after an injury littered Sophomore season...

 

But, we get it. You're confrontational. The board already has you figured out. Hell, you've even been nominated for a certain Hall of Fame on the board...

 

 

 

 

 

We currently don't have any great backs, it just so happens they were all 3* recruits.

Mikale Wilbon and Adam Taylor were both :star :star 's coming out of high school.

https://nebraska.rivals.com/commitments/football/2013

 

Interestingly enough, they both keep getting beat out for playing time and the #1 RB spot by "just 3 stars". Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Had hi hopes for Taylor, thought he may the next big thang. Well, he had bad knees coming in, bad ACL injuries in h.s., if I recall. Still, was supposedly cleared, but then I think he injured them again @ NU. So we will never know.

Haven't completely given up on Wilbon, shows some flashes but doesn't look to be a between the tackle guy. Not big on blocking either, as yet, which is what is mainly keeping him off the field. Perhaps he was overrated, yes, overrated. Tre deserves a 4th star over him. Tre appears to have a chance, we shall see.

 

Didn't you already write him off earlier in this thread? Saying he would never be a 1,000 yard back?

"appears to have a chance". You undertsand English, right. I don't think I said "never", but if I did, what I mean is, at best, I think he will gravitate around 1000 yds and that may not be every year from here on out. I like the kid, I'm hopin' for some upside. But, as of now, I don't see him as being any more distinguishable than any other "good" back that any other average team has.

I get it, you're trying to get a rise outta me. Keep swinging.

Maybe, when you get a chance, you can provide your own insights as to why any of our current backs will be more than just servicable.

Otherwise, why don't you just run along and bother somebody else.

That's my point. I, nor anybody else that I've seen, has made the argument that our current running backs will be anything more then serviceable. You just continue to argue with yourself. Nobody has argued that we don't need to recruit better running backs. Some, myself included, have taken issue with you discounting the potential of Tre Bryant after his Freshman year, or even Ozigbo after an injury littered Sophomore season...

 

But, we get it. You're confrontational. The board already has you figured out. Hell, you've even been nominated for a certain Hall of Fame on the board...

What don't you follow? It's a pretty simple concept.

 

 

 

KJJ is 6'1.

And McQuitty is 6'2.

Oh, ok, that's good then. I guess Lindsay and that Calvin are the shorter guys.

just Lindsay. Calvin flipped to Wazzu

Got to thinking about this after signing day. Everyone talks about the top studs in the classes...etc.

 

However, I got to thinking that the bottom of the classes are a very important part of recruiting and direction of the program. Sure, a program can get 2-5 stud players at the top. But, those don't help with depth...especially if those studs don't pan out.

 

So, I went back and looked at the last 5 recruiting classes to see the average rating of the bottom 10 players in each class.

 

2017 .8502

2016 .8436

2015 .8290

2014 .8182

2013 .8331

 

It appears to me the bottom of the class is improving due to not having to reach as much for late signees. This should help with depth issues when injuries and attrition occurs.

 

 

 

This stuff just breaks my heart. I don't understand this sort of thing that is described in this story.

 

 

 

NEBRASKA (NTV) Right now, there is sex for sale somewhere in Nebraska. Its a crime that plays out in parking lots, at truck stops, in hotels and homes; but its not always between two consenting adults, like we see with prostitution.

Instead, experts say its often human trafficking, someone being held prisoner and forced into a life they never wanted to be a part of.

http://nebraska.tv/news/local/sex-for-sale-in-nebraska-human-trafficking-hidden-in-plain-sight

Hard to believe it's happening within the US.

Been going on for years. OK has been an epicenter for sex trafficing for yrs and now its in NE. Well, if there was no demand...

 

Migrant/immigrant farm labor is to a large degree labor trafficking, same model, just labor instead of sex, though there can be overlap.

you can't be serious

"Migrant workers are especially targets of human trafficking and forced labor, ..."

http://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.solidaritycenter.org/what-we-do/migration-and-human-trafficking/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiAkaiQnIHSAhXCi1QKHehdCZwQFggOMAA&sig2=MddxmhqTEzt8_EJO93K0tQ&usg=AFQjCNHo4C8KWM703ADvpqQUenplM4qPEQ

Or just google, "human trafficking, migrant labor"

 

 

Another reason for me to facepalm for my state. There is one legislature from Pennington county who believes those ancestry websites are a government conspiracy to collect your DNA and rob you blind if you have money to inherit.

I wonder, how do they have comparative DNA samples from your alleged ancestors in the 1st place, i.e., how can they know about your great great great grandpappy Chuck in Zimbabwe, when molecular science didn't exist for Chuck?

She also believes vaccines cause autism. So she's not the sharpest tool in the shed.

 

Why do they do this? We all know for a fact that the universe sprang from a point of singularity which expanded greatly. And then conditions were just right on some planets for life to spark into existence. Somehow that first simple life form became able to reproduce. Then it evolved into mankind and all life on earth. It's fact!

 

Why don't we just look at experimental results. I mean, it's a well known fact that you can mix the right combination of chemicals together in a lab, and zap it with electricity, and a functioning, reproducing cell will result. And that cell will then reproduce, and through random mutations, form into generations of increasingly complex lifeforms until it culminates in the 1985 Chicago bears. Looks at the experimental results people! Scientists are smart!

 

 

 

/sarcasm

No, no, no its much more realistic that one almighty, all-seeing, all-loving deity created the entire universe in 6 days. Decided to kick back with two of his greatest friends, himself and himself, for a cold beer on the seventh because he was tired from all the work. Decided the world needed some sort of species to look like him so he took clay and dirt to make this being. But that wasnt good enough, this really stupid god-like being needed another stupid god-like being with longer hair. So this deity took the 13th rib from the first stupid god-like being and created the long hair god-like being.

 

But this deity wanted to keep these two god-like being from being critical and free thinkers. It loved the fact they were stupid as hell and couldnt question their existence. But he wanted to test them so he created an apple and said dont eat this. But because these stupid god-like beings are not actually god, and god actually messed up when creating them on accident, they felt intrigued by this apple. Then a talking snake showed up out of nowhere and told them to eat the apple. They didnt understand what this creature even was or that these creatures dont talk, so these two stupid god-like beings were confused and ate the apple. They then became really embarrassed because neither of them had clothes on, even though clothes werent even a thing yet. And the deity told them well now that you are smarter, I cant help you anymore and if you mess up I will torture you for eternity in a pit of fire.

 

Couple thousand years went by, including a flood that killed every god-like person, now called sinners, and every animal except for two on Earth because this deity wanted to start over. Two kangaroos traveled thousands of miles to get on this boat. Two penguins from Antartica did the same thing. It was quite remarkable actually. So after this deity killed everyone to start over he decided to make a loophole for his mistake, so he sacrificed himself to himself and everyone was saved, except for the folks that were born too early in history, they are being tortured for eternity. Yay! This is way more realistic than your stupid theory!

 

Sarcasm

One other thing, why did Gawd give Eve a va-JJ?

(Ans: so Adam would talk to her...OUCH!)

 

 

Ok, if that was sarcasm, then maybe I understood what she was going for. I don't know Moraine enough to know where she's coming from.

I thought the "or something" part made it obvious?

 

You did the same thing in the football forum. If something sounds really really stupid, it's probably too stupid to be true. Although with Trump as president I suppose it's hard to tell now.

At least I got a chance to diss on CNN.

Ok, I'm up to speed on your sarcasm, we're good now, let er rip.

 

 

Haven't read any of the news. Just what's on this board.

 

What I find interesting is the people saying Trump is in no way to blame for any of it, even emboldening people, is that those people make up a large subset of the same group of people who put most/all of the blame for division in America on Obama.

 

Self-awareness isn't a trait found in everyone.

 

Who said that? I think it's ridiculous to jump to conclusions as most people usually do based on the media which is there to make money and entertain. We see it all the time and people never learn.

 

Hate to break it to ya but this has always been a divided country and always will be. It is a republic with a democratic election(That alone divides the country) and it is filled with a lot of different ethnic groups that all have different motives and incentives.

 

Honestly, you want a country on more of the same page? Switch to a monarchy.

Ok, if that was sarcasm, then maybe I understood what she was going for. I don't know Moraine enough to know where she's coming from.