Hans Gruber

1 hour ago, Toe said:

 

It's burned. Two years of scholarships at Nebraska, leaving us nothing to show for it.

 

 

Hey, Bunch counts as a Riley recruit! It wouldn't take much for him to pass the combined total wins of Tanner Lee, Potatoes O'Brien, and Tristan Gebbia at Nebraska!

 

 

Go back and watch the spring game again and see how you feel about Bunch. Most of us thought he looked pretty decent, and Frost called him a "pleasant surprise".

 

 

Did you forget Ron Kellogg? Fyfe was never a starter in 2013, looks like he played a single snap that year.

 

Yeah, I meant Kellogg in 2013.

39 minutes ago, Branno said:

 

This kid has 4 years to demonstrate his value to the NFL, and your suggestion is he stay at NU on the off chance the true freshman starter that beat him out either doesn’t pan out or gets injured. 

 

If he stays, that’d be great. But he needs to do whatever it takes to set himself up for life after college. And if he wants to be in the NFL, he needs to be the starter. 

I think he would be better suited staying at Nebraska though the 2018 season than going to a junior college. If you're saying he instantly enrolls at another power five program this fall, then I have a bit less of a problem with that.

Still though, the last decade at Nebraska has essentially proven that running QBs rarely stay healthy for a whole season. So if he stayed, he probably would have started at least once. Maybe even for half a season. That looks better on tape and on his resume than immediately going to a Juco for one season. And there's no guarantee that whatever FBS school he eventually goes to will be any better of a situation.

1 hour ago, huskerfan333157 said:

Not every juco is like Mid Plains!!

That's not the one I was referring too, but I'm sure it was as bad as Mid Plains.

4 minutes ago, In the Deed the Glory said:

He is going to go to a JUCO so he can get some playing experience this year.  If he goes to another D1 he has to sit this year.  That would mean he wouldn't have taken a game snap in 2 seasons and never in college.  He will go JUCO and I would guess have a very good year.

If that's what he wants to do. All I know, if I was in his shoes, there's no way I'd go to a Juco. I did not play sports past high school and went to a four-year university. I took some classes from a Juco though and there's no way I'd ever want to deal with any of that stuff again.

20 minutes ago, huskerfan333157 said:

I get that but he still will behind the 8 ball when Martinez returns.  Why not go somewhere where you know you'll be the starter? 

That's my whole point. We don't know that he would still be behind the eight ball. Neither has played in a real game before.

I will grant you that it is more likely Gebbia would be behind the eight ball, but it isn't a certainty. 

I have no inside info, but I doubt he goes to Wisconsin. I'd imagine Nebraska would block him from going to any conference opponent. If I had to guess, I would think he goes back to a school in California.

8 minutes ago, huskerfan333157 said:

If he waits til the end of the year then he will have to sit out an additional year...

Yes, I understand that. But he's a redshirt freshman, not a redshirt junior. He still has a lot of time. And there's a strong chance he would have started at least one game this year. Maybe more. Maybe he would have ended up being the full-time starter. I understand that isn't the most likely scenario, but it isn't tinfoil stuff either.

Quarterbacks in running offenses get hurt all the time.

1 hour ago, Branno said:

 

It's selfish to ask him to sit out for two years so we can have a backup. If he leaves now at worst he sits for one and can play next season. At best, if he goes to a JUCO, he can play immediately this year and transfer back to D1 next year and play immediately.

 

 

We don't know he would have been the backup the whole season. Obviously he would have been in the opener, but there's no guarantee Martinez will stay healthy or would be productive. It's not a stretch to say Martinez could have shoulder problems or any other kind of injury.

It's also not a stretch to say Martinez could really struggle. True freshman don't have a great track record in college football history. Obviously there are exceptions, but I don't expect Martinez to light the Big 10 on fire in year one.

I'm not saying Gebbia should have just gritted his teeth and sat on the bench his whole career. But recent history strongly suggests that Gebbia could transfer in December and also start two or three games this fall. 

I'll be at work during the game. 

So I'll listen to it at work and then watch the game on my DVR when I get home.

Because of my job, I'm probably the only person on the planet that loves when Nebraska kicks off at 11 a.m. That way I can watch the entire game before work.

I haven't read through he first 200 posts here, so I'm sure this at least partly rehashing things.

Anyways, I don't really blame Gebbia for wanting to leave, but it's kinds of an odd decision. Why not wait until the end of the regualr season? There's no guarantee that Martinez stays healthy. He could also get benched for struggling. Nebraska has had at least one game that the backup QB played extensively, either because of injury or ineffectiveness, each year since 2013.

2013: Taylor Martinez, Tommy Armstrong and Ryker Fyfe each started at least once.

2014: Armstrong left both the Michigan State and Iowa games for a time.

2015: That Purdue game we all want to forget.

2016: Ryker started against Maryland and Tennessee and played a lot against OSU.

2017: Tanner Lee missed a bunch of the Minnesota game.

It seems short-sighted to me for Gebbia to leave right now when he could leave in December. Heck he might end up starting here for six games and become the full-time starter. Worst-case scenario, he transfers in December as a redshirt freshman and after sitting out can play two full years at his new school.

I went with the flea kicker, but I wouldn't be the least surprised if it was a combination of clips.

I haven't been to a Nebraska game since 2011, but I've been to numerous in my life. A handful of games, usually big or special circumstances games, had some sort of short video play prior to the tunnel walk. In 1999 against Kansas State they played the "We're not in Kansas anymore" clip from the Wizard of Oz. I think they showed Solich scoring a touchdown before his first game in 1998.

Anyways, I think it's safe to assume they'll have something immediately before the tunnel walk for Frost's first game. Which clip from Frost's playing days do you think it will be?

5 hours ago, Enhance said:

Breon Dixon being off the depth chart in favor of Caleb Tannor is super intriguing. I wonder if that's only performance related or if there is some kind of behavioral situation at play. Good on Tannor for positioning himself for playing time after not being here in the spring.

Pure speculation here: The depth chart only has guys listed in a standard 3-4 base defense. Maybe, possibly, Breon Dixon plays heavily in a nickel or dime package though.

11 minutes ago, Hans Gruber said:

Here's the real fun aspect of all this. We Nebraska fans can officially claim we are one of only five schools with an active coach that has won a national title.

 

Meyer has won three (2006, 2008 and 2014)

Saban has won six (2003, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015 and 2017)

Jimbo Fisher has won one (2013)

Dabo Swinney has won one (2016)

And our guy Frost has one (2017)

 

And to take it a step further, and really annoy Michigan fans, we are the only school* that has an active coach that was won a national title as both a player and a head coach.

* - At least I'm assuming so

Edit: 

Scratch that, Dabo won a title as receiver at Alabama in 1992. Still though, Frost is one of two.

Here's the real fun aspect of all this. We Nebraska fans can officially claim we are one of only five schools with an active coach that has won a national title.

Meyer has won three (2006, 2008 and 2014)

Saban has won six (2003, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015 and 2017)

Jimbo Fisher has won one (2013)

Dabo Swinney has won one (2016)

And our guy Frost has one (2017)

Nebraska wins 49-15

Fans rejoice.

I predict that the Nebraska defense will allow 25.8 points per game this season. Then they'll be better next year.

6 minutes ago, jsneb83 said:

It's not necessarily that they aren't quite as vested, but more because ten years isn't that long in their remaining life and have a ton of time left to hope Nebraska gets back on top. In 10 years, I'll be 37-38. With 5 mil, I would be set for life and still (hopefully) have at least 30 years to watch the Huskers.

I'm roughly the same age and completely agree with your statement.

I love the Huskers, but I got bills to pay too. Frost winning 10 or 11 games would be great, but it doesn't fix my car or pay the rent.

Some random speculation on the breakdown of this question.

My guess is that this question essentially rests on two points, age and economic status.

If you're young, broke or full of debt, then you're more likely to take the money. If you're rich, financially secure or "of a certain age and just want to see the Huskers win one more damn time," then you're more likely to take Frost over the money.

I'm relatively young and broke, that's why I tried to rob Nakatomi Plaza.

I love Nebraska football, but I'd take the five million in a second. 

To the second question, 1,000 isn't enough but I'd take the 50,000. Apologies in advance for ruining Nebraska football. 

18 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

Maybe it helps lead into conversation on the recruiting trail. Reminds recruits he coached at Oregon during their good years. It’s a way to talk about Oregon, which many kids now know the Oregon offense. 

 

Just a thought 

I get what you're saying. I think that made sense from when Frost was hired through this first season or so. I would imagine starting in year two Nebraska (and maybe in year one) will be pretty darn good on offense. After that, I don't think it will matter what Frost did at Oregon. Recruits will just see the success that Nebraska has.

37 minutes ago, HuskerInLostWages said:

Let's just go with a Corn-R or the Farm-R and call it a day.  Maybe even the Bugeat-R and hit our roots.

I like bug eater or just bug. Bug eater is my new leader in the clubhouse.

There was a topic about this among or so ago. I agree that they should change the name of the position.

I would name is something like the bandit, thief, cowboy, robber, star, stud, snake, bear, ghost, eagle or something fun like that.

I wouldn't name it Husker, but I suppose it could be something Nebraska related like farmer, rancher, sower, aggie or something like that. I've never lived in Nebraska, so I can't think of anything else. I'm sure there's something Nebraska related that isn't related to agriculture too. 

5 hours ago, 4skers89 said:

I was thinking that it didn't quite sound right.  Then I thought eh, close enough.

Sean Eichorst sucked.

Scott Eichorn is probably a real estate agent and still would have hired someone better.

I said within five minutes. Too many things can go wrong for me to project a score within the first two minutes. The biggest being that Akron may get the ball first.

Maybe I should put it this way. I expect the Nebraska offense to score a touchdown on its opening drive.