Kernel Red

It would have been stupid to fire Riley tonight. Let him have his last press conference and time with the players.

Nothing changes between tonight and tomorrow.

After watching the performance that capped this dreadful season, hopefully everyone now understands why Nebraska will not be outbid for Frost.

Not sure we have much choice. Florida can drive up the salary, but I'm confident they won't go as high as we will.

UCF wraps it up. Welp, the misery continues for at least another week.

14 hours ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

Frost has had offer since 11/4. Reaching out to others to create a safety net if frost backs out is smart business. 

Can you talk more about this? In an earlier post you said Moos didn't need a Plan B.

1 minute ago, Vols1891 said:

Personally I would be really nervous to go back to my alma mater because it’s definitely a big risk. You are already a hero there, so my attitude is why potentially mess that up. But to be totally honest, I’m just not a risk taker in general and usually like to take the easy route. People like Scott Frost who are really competitive often welcome those kinds of opportunities and look at it as more of a challenge than a risk.

Very fair assessment. It's always great to visit with fans of another team that want to participate in civil conversations. It also pains me to see Husker fans on other message boards talking trash.

All the best in your coaching search (as long as it isn't Scott Frost ).

1 minute ago, Vols1891 said:

A lot of our fans actually have Frost as the coach we would want the most (if you exclude the Gruden maniacs). We just all assume that it would be a waste of time because he’s either going to Nebraska or staying put.

Here's a question for everyone. If you were Scott Frost and you had multimillion dollar, long term offers from on the table from Florida, Tennessee, and Nebraska, would you push them all away to stay at UCF?

11 minutes ago, secretasianman said:

Listening to things Frost says about UCF makes me think that he is staying.  I’m not saying that he’ll never leave, but it just seems like he’s not ready to leave— like he wants to see how far he can take them.

i get it.. they’re undefeated and can’t crack the top 10.  It’s tough, if not impossible to win a national championship at UCF unless they are to move into a Power 5 conference. 

But if the money at UCF is now in the $4-4.5 million range, and he likes the proximity of the school with recruiting talent, and enjoys not having every move scrutinized, then he stays. 

Yes, he could dispel all the speculation by just saying whether he’s staying or not.  I think he hasn’t because  he’ll give the decision to leave a good, fair and thorough assessment when the time is right. 

 

And maybe Moos didn’t fire Riley earlier because he wanted to make sure his new hire was in the works first.  And if he doesn’t get who he wants , he announces that Riley will be retained.  ??  I hope I’m wrong!

You don't need to worry about Riley being retained.

1 minute ago, Midwest said:

Anybody who has been around HB pre-Riley care to offer their opinion on any similarlities of the "smoke" we're seeing for SF as compared to the Tressel stuff?  Similar?...or not even a comparison?  I'm hoping for the latter.

Did Tressel ever refer to Nebraska as his dream job? Did Tressel's parents ever live in Lincoln? Did Tressel win a National Championship as a player for Nebraska?

So, yeah, maybe not much comparison.

Just now, ladyhawke said:

Yep! https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tennessee-football/espn-analyst-says-dan-mullen-clear-leader-tennessee/

Wait, what? I thought Frost was a lock to go to Tennessee (after he was a lock to go to Florida).

10 minutes ago, runningblind said:

It is either that or no one Moos has reached out to is interested.

It is posts like this one that make me realize just how much damage has been done to the Husker football program (and its fans) by our past administration. 

I get it, having faith after multiple failures is hard. But the people we have running the show now are a different breed.

Moos will land our guy. 

26 minutes ago, huskerfan69 said:

my source says he already accepted the florida job, and moos is scrambling for a coach.

You have a crappy source.

8 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

It defiantly is easy to think the worst. 

It's always darkest before the Frost...

42 minutes ago, The Cornfather said:

I hadn't done any Tennessee message board perusing prior to today because I didn't think we had to worry about them. The Florida competition gave me enough anxiety as it is. I never really thought that Gruden was a serious option for them though either, more like a dream scenario type of thing. I still think SF is N but my poor old heart could do with less of those types of rumors.

As we discussed last night, there will be plenty of rumors circulating about Frost going to other places between now and December 3. At this point, I think it is wise to go into this with the same kind of confidence we used to have when playing Iowa State. We were pretty damn sure of victory, but there was always a small chance of an upset. 

I've already mentioned the exuberance Green and Moos have expressed about Frost, but imagine how it must feel to Scott right now. Damn near every person in the state he grew up in wants him, and only him, to take over the reigns of it's most beloved commodity. That certainly wasn't the case for Solich, Callahan, Pelini, or Riley. Even though he has a job to finish at UCF, the anticipation of bringing in guys he trusts to help him lead the Cornhuskers back to prominence has to be overwhelming. There is no amount of reassurance that will suffice until he signs on the dotted line, but given all that has (and hasn't) happened, I am extremely confident that Scott Frost is coming home.

Go Big Red!

Just now, grandpasknee said:

I still haven't seen anything regarding who might land at UCF, aside from Sumlin, which I doubt.  Any guesses?

This is another reason why it was wise to lock down Danny White. All young, up and coming, coaches will want to give UCF a look because of what White has done for Frost. He can go out and sell a conference winning program that just put it's coach into a $5 million + per year job.

9 minutes ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

UCF's Athletic Department is under assault, they don't want to lose their AD and head coach of the football team, who will likely take many assistants with him if he decides to leave.

 

I do think that this will help in their effort to keep Frost, how much it helps is anybody's guess.

Put yourselves in UCF's shoes. They are losing their HC but still have an AD that is on the fast track to the top. It is absolutely in their best interest to put as much of a safety net around White as they can. That said, if UCF continues to thrive after Frost leaves, this contract extension won't be a barrier to a P5 school that will easily have the funds to buy it out.

I just don't get how anyone thinks this would change Scott's mind about leaving. Does anyone really think that he'd change his mind because the AD was given an extension? Frost did not pick the UCF job as his final destination. It was an excellent choice as a stepping stone program. He made a great decision to go there and will now reap the reward.

1 minute ago, B.B. Hemingway said:

I think we'd all be a little naive to believe the extension given to AD White won't play a role in this.

How so?

18 minutes ago, Caliborn72 said:

Fair question but I don’t really see any timetable for the statement in the article. Kelly might have turned us down weeks ago.

 

It does make it seriously hard to believe that Frost told Florida no weeks ago though like has been rumored. That’s not how any of this works. You pursue coaches and coaches pursue jobs until things are figured out. There’s no way Frost or his agent was turning away offers. I think it’s more likely that Florida decided to pursue Kelly over Frost, and that’s why talks halted.

If Frost has a better offer from the place he wants to go, then yes, he absolutely turns them down. Every sign points to Florida pursuing Frost, him telling them he had a better offer from a place he prefers and Florida then moving on to Kelly. Why is that so hard to understand. Can Florida come back with a new offer if they don't land Kelly? Sure.

For those of you that might be worried about the Lars Anderson tweet saying Florida will go all in on Frost. Hopefully the image below will put this guy (Lars) into context for you. 

Do you really think Bielema would be acceptable to Moos, Green, Bounds or anyone on the BOR?

7 minutes ago, RedNebraskan said:

So according to us, no matter what Florida tries, Frost is N. I can't believe media is still talking about Florida and Frost.  They need to hire Kelly and be done with this .

The very best thing that can happen for Nebraska is lots of speculation that Frost is getting offers from top programs. Can you imagine how that will play when Scott has chosen Nebraska over them? No way to spin that as bad for Nebraska.

3 minutes ago, Chalk1988 said:

Did we already talk about this? He is saying if Chip goes UCLA (which Chip will pick Fl/UCLA) then Florida is going all in on Scott 

Just as UCF tried to save base with their fans by throwing out a figure they've offered Frost to stay, Florida is also going to have to make it appear that they pulled out all the stops for Frost if they lose Kelly. 

This is exactly what I meant by the frenzy that is going to take place around here during the time Nebraska doesn't have a head coach in place. I really wish Scott would decide to just make an announcement, win or lose against USF, but I understand why he wouldn't.

Just now, Hedley Lamarr said:

I think USF has to win for that to be a possibility 

I figured. Well, it's going to be a mad house around here next week as I expect UCF to win. Sharp, Benning, Dirk, and others will be stirring the pot at an all-time high. This thread is going to soar past 200 as people will be fed a million reasons why Frost is going to turn us down (even though there will be an undisclosed deal in place to take effect after the AAC CCG). Seems the smart thing for Scott to do after their victory on Friday is to tell the media that he will not take any questions about other jobs in the lead up to the CCG. As for Moos, he should disappear and hit the road for undisclosed locations.

27 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

I was wrong about Riley announcement Friday. Will hold press conference on Saturday now. 

Well Hedly, that ties up the only bit of information I had that was a little different from what you've stated as I knew there were several folks on call for a Saturday announcement. If they aren't announcing Frost at the same time, it seems like that presser will be very short as I see no for Riley to be there.

Do you see any chance that they announce Frost on Saturday even if UCF beats USF? Otherwise, this state is going to go bat $hip crazy (fueled by the media) if we're coach-less for a week. 

7 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I'm not doubting Hedley's info, but I don't think an AD of a team who has yet to fire their coach talking directly to a sitting coach is how these things work.  This is what agents and consultants are for.  Gives all parties deniability when questions are asked if they have been in contact.

All I can say is that there was a reason Moos was able to talk so openly and frequently about Frost. That confidence came from somewhere. It's hard to believe that someone from NU didn't talk directly with Scott.