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12 hours ago, Cobra Kai said:

Regardless of the metric, best QB since Armstrong.  Tommys offenses scored...and scored in bunches.  It was a team effort for sure...but we'd all give our left nut for Tommy's era offensive stats this year.

I'd take Tommy's era of offensive stats sure, but in no world would I replace AM with Tommy. You drop AM into the talent Tommy had and AM probably breaks every QB record NU has.

1 hour ago, Nebraska55fan said:

 OKAY so an Alumni/ booster- finds a way to funnel $500,000  yearly to Miami players for something that may or may not have any positive effect on his business. 

 

Like I said it was going to happen- it's already happening. EVERY Miami player is going to make $6,000 per year. Need just 2 more like that and every player is getting close to $20K. NICE recruiting advantage. MUCH bigger bang for your donor buck than throwing money towards a new facility upgrade. This is literally just the tip of the iceberg. 

 

If NU donors could just funnel say $5,000,000 per year towards this type of approach instead of say $155,000,000 towards a new facility. That would mean $60,000 more or less per player, per year. Nice recruiting advantage- for far less money. 

But when every big school has boosters funneling $20k to the players then it comes down to the facilities again. Also, I bet if Miami wanted new facilities this guy would get out his check book again. These boosters don't hesitate to throw money at the schools and players. Not to mention who's to say this guy wasn't already giving this money and now he's just doing it legally.

10 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said:

That 2018 team was as good as Frost's last team. Yeah they lost a game to LSU, but that LSU team had like 5 first rounders and was going on to be one of the great offenses of all time the next season. Frost gave Heupel Milton, so he still gets credit there. What still scares me about Frost, is his really good teams as a Coach/Coordinator have been carried by Heisman caliber QB play.  Can we win in the B1G without a Heisman level QB1? 

Ya 2018 was still good, but like you said a lot of that was still Frosts team. Heupel's teams just trended downhill from there. It's not like they got bad, but they were never as good.

And I agree on the QB play. I also wonder though if some of the QB looked so good because of the play around them. Those teams had great RBs, TEs, WRs, and lines. Mariota and Milton were great, but the players around them were too. Martinez's ceiling is probably close to those two, but he has to reach it for us to have that sort of season.

11 hours ago, Toe said:

 

Something I think a lot of people don't really grasp: Frost took over a MUCH better situation at UCF than he did at Nebraska. Things went totally off the rails in George O'Leary's winless final season at UCF, but that was still a team just two years removed from a Fiesta Bowl win and a top 10 finish. O'Leary built a pretty solid team, they just needed a little help getting back to where they should've been.

 

A lot of people only looked at that winless year (and not the years that preceded it) and thought Frost could pull off that kind of turnaround anywhere. Unfortunately, well, Mike Riley was a coach who never came anywhere near O'Leary's career achievements, and certainly not at Nebraska...

The fact that Heupel took over that team and made it worse every year speaks a lot to what Frost did too. Frost took a good team, made it great and then Heupel took it over and had success early, but has never replicated what Frost did. In this case Frost took over an awful team and now he needs to make it average (lot harder than it seems) before he can make it good then great.

I'll admit I want Frost to succeed because of who he is, but I think we need to give him at least two more years unless things just fall off the rails this year. Everything is in place this year to make a jump forward and it needs to happen, but I'm not in the camp that thinks less than 8 or 9 wins this year is failing.

I've worked in digital marketing and done a lot of influencer campaigns and such for the last 7 years and these early sponsorships are so hilarious. Though the early influencer marketing attempts were the same and it has really settled in now. All these kids are just grabbing a quick buck and good for them. I now know what Gopuffs is! ha

2 hours ago, ColoradoHusk said:

The reason that NFL players pay the state tax for each state they play a game in, is because their checks are considered "game checks".  With these college football players not making $ for each game, but rather earning their $ off of selling their NIL, I would imagine they pay taxes where they live while earning this $.  I did find it weird that Lexi Sun incorporated her "company" in California, given the high state taxes there.  But, since that's where she resides outside of her time at NU, it was probably easier for her to set up her business there.

Ya usually, state taxes say you have to live there or have to have earned the money in the state. So, if you play a game in the state and are paid for that you get taxed. However, if you sign a deal for your NIL and sign deals in your home state then you aren't getting taxed for going to play elsewhere as it isn't tied to the game. Also, I doubt most state officials/legislatures are going to want to see kids in their state getting hit with crazy tax bills. That'd be a PR nightmare they'd fix quickly.

4 hours ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

I have always wondered this, does Sean Callahan for example really know more about gauging a kids potential and how he will end up more than anyone else who watches a highlight reel of a kid or sees him at a game? Do any of these guys have that we hear all the time from have legitimate experience in the field of recruiting etc or are they just recruiting fans that get paid to talk about it? I know a few of the folks at these places have past experiences some at universities and what not but my hunch is that the vast majority don't. 

I genuinely have no idea, is Callahan the one who ranks the kids? Or is he more of a journalist and they have guys behind the scenes with legitimate experience who evaluate the kids. There has to be tons of former college players, coaches, etc. that want a gig like that, but without being a journalist.

13 minutes ago, GSG said:

Mertz's logo reminds me of the Nintendo GameCube

 

 

 

Honestly, it feels like kind of a lazy attempt on a logo. Cam's "juice" logo was way cooler and original.

8 hours ago, The Dude said:

Typically after the AD that hires a coach is let go after a few disastrous seasons, the coach is soon to follow.

 

I'm not saying I'm a proponent of Scott getting canned, I'm just saying that this is the usual plot of this movie, and people should mentally prepare themselves instead of persisting in delusion. 

Typical that AD is let go in concert with the disastrous seasons and not randomly in the middle of the summer though too. Had Moos "retired" within a month of football season then I'd follow here, but this seems very unrelated to sports performance. Especially considering the recent Baseball success.

9 minutes ago, Redux said:

One thing to consider.  If the next AD wants to be here long term, does he want to be the guy that fired Scott Frost?

This is a really good point. You'll forever have a segment of the fan base that dislikes you for that and it'd be even worse if your guy came in and was mediocre.

The Ed Stewart stuff coming this fast makes it seem like he was their pick and something forced them to move quickly to get him. 

Considering Ronnie Green was part of the search that landed Moos on the grounds of hiring Frost, I imagine he'll conduct this search on the grounds of we're letting Frost build this. As long as the upper leadership is united behind Frost still I can't imagine they'd bring in an AD who was willing to rock the boat for his guy that quickly.

Wow, I have something in common with a power 5 AD. My boss and I had a strong disagreement this week and I also abruptly "retired" today.

5 hours ago, MyBloodIsRed16 said:

Girl scouts of america is a cookie company that uses 100% free labor. 

Except nearly 100% of that stays local. The CEO of GSA makes like $200k a year which is a pretty modest CEO salary. College athletes free labor helps fund multimillion dollar salaries for coaches, ADs, commissioners and presidents. 

1 minute ago, krc1995 said:

LM will be alright. His family is successful and I’m sure they can give him a token job somewhere. 
 

but for the rest of the 97%, team hopping is going to ruin their life. They are going to be saddled with so much residual school debt and no job to pay it with. They are all getting bad advice. The NCAA is going to ruin their lives. 

This is spot on.

Louisville's coach saying LM left because he expected a starting job and what not was so much worse than anything Frost said. Frost didn't need to make the reference, but he's not wrong and for kids not named LM transferring 2-3 times or more is going to make it really likely you never graduate.

5 hours ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

The only thing we can do is develop players and send them to the NFL, something Frost just hasn't done at Nebraska. 

I mean Frost has already turned this around. The first draft after he was hired there were no Huskers selected and only one in the two prior which is on Pelini/Riley. Since then we had two selected in 2020 and two in 2021. Likely at least two maybe more in 2022. So, I think he'll send players to the NFL that's something that takes time to show up though.

17 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

The problem is that Nebraska tends to entice dual threat high school quarterbacks with the promise that they can keep playing QB at Nebraska when other Power 5  programs want to convert them to other positions. That particular pool of talent tends to land us kids who are better runners than they are passers (Christian McCaffrey) and in today's NCAA you really need to flip that around (great passers who can run), or go with a straight up passing QB.  

 

QB prospects looking for a path to the NFL don't consider Nebraska, and although we get some really entertaining playground ballers like Tommy Armstrong and the two Martinez's, they sometimes lack the discipline of the guys who know how to plant their feet, run their progressions, and kill a play rather than force a turnover. 

I think the only QB we've recruited under Frost that we promised could keep playing QB that others didn't was McCaffrey. AM was very much recruited as a QB. So, was Smothers. Haarberg's recruitment started late, but he was still looked at as a QB by the schools that recruited him. Bo did this a lot though.

55 minutes ago, Cobra Kai said:

I was never poo pooing cams vert.  The average vert of d1 football players is between 29"-31".  Our top 10 doesn't leave me all warm and fuzzy.  Very happy for cam, as I said before.  All I stated was our top 10 leaves lots to be desired.  Look at who's on that list.  Then look at who you expect to be out best playmakers at all 3 levels this year.  Looks like our AFletes need to put some more work in on being AFletic.

The top 10 has 5 starters and 2-3 contributors in it. Plus it's just that a top 10 with the lowest number being 34 inches which is WAY above your average. So, there is probably a whole lot more starters and contributors a couple inches down the list you can't see. This top 10 doesn't say anything about our players needing to work harder.

9 hours ago, Cobra Kai said:

Is this a good thing for the team, or a bad thing?  Kudos to him, very impressive. 

 

I think the AFletes need to have more quick twitch than our center.  

 

I can hear it now...but, but, he was a tight end!  Go pound sand with that garbage.  We have how many scholly WRs, DBs and RBs?  And 3 finished better than him?  Yikes

I think you're underestimating how good a 34.5 inch vertical for an OL is. Only one OL in the combine out jumped him and he tied Alex Leatherwood who was drafted 17th overall. He out jumped Travis Etienne, RB from Clemson, 1st round pick, by a full inch. He out jumped multiple WRs, LBs, OL, DL, RBs, and Safeties who went in the first 3 rounds.

Cam is a freak of an athlete and that jump doesn't discount the athletes we have at other positions at all.

15 hours ago, MyBloodIsRed16 said:

The biggest problem I saw was when the Qb hit the guy at 5 yards when there was another guy at 12 yards wide open.  Yes I know I can complete a 12 yard pass.  I ran scout team QB twice while in college.  

The problem is you don't know which read the guy who was open 12 yards is. He could be the last read and QBs are taught to take the first open read. Or maybe he was the first read and he was covered, the QB moved on and then he came open. Judging who a QB is throwing to while watching with no knowledge of the play or reads is really not an indication of how good a QB is.

50 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

I agree with the media/fan assessment of the new guy being the future savior. BUT, has anyone progressed and developed into said savior? No- that would lean on development and recruitment.

Smothers has been on campus for a year and we've seen extremely limited practice video of him. There is no way to expect he'd be a savior. Haarberg is a true freshmen again no way to expect he's a savior. 

How many coaching staffs are recruiting and developing guys into saviors by their redshirt freshman year? So those two can't even realistically be judged. 

McCaffrey was a miss but that's 1 out of 4. Martinez has another year to show what he can do before you can say this staff didn't develop him well. 

4 hours ago, Huskers93-97 said:

Sounds like mixed reviews about smothers in the media. More positive thoughts about Haarberg. That seems to be a bad sign about how we are recruiting. Seems like lately the new arrival is the best looking but needs development. Then the next year he doesn’t look ready or can’t throw very good but the new kid is the best of them all just doesn’t know the offense. I think if we truly recruited a great talent they would stand out 

This sounds more like media and fans anointing the newest recruit as the savior every year and then doing it again the next year and disparaging the other guy to promote the savior. We did it with Martinez, McCaffrey, Smothers, Haarberg, seems like a trend in over hyped expectations and not recruiting/development issues.

19 hours ago, Decked said:

Brown hardly played and did next to nothing last year. Nixon will be a better player. Trust me. Brown will get there but doesn’t have the football instincts like Nixon. A healthy Nixon would’ve played the most out of all the true freshman last year. 

I think people forget that Brown was a QB until he switched to WR in prep and then had last year. He's still learning the position. Nixon has played the position and is a coach's kid so there is a good chance that if he's healthy he can jump Brown. I still think Brown plays and flashes a few times this year.