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2 hours ago, Mavric said:

 

Yep, Alabama players never have guts.

 

And those guys have bigger calves than our players biceps.  If all you're going to focus on is the belly then we just have to agree to disagree.

But you're wrong. 

1 hour ago, Undone said:

I don't like it. 

I see it being a free-for-all where the Nick Sabans will be actively recruiting freshman who are clearly rising stars from other teams. I see it increasing parity and undermining the concept of the scholarship itself.

That's why they are talking about increased penalties for coaches who recruit players from other schools.  Under that requirement, a player would have to end his scholarship at his school before making contact with a coach from a different school.   The only issue with it would be 3rd party representatives making contact and being able to investigate those situations.   

I would hope that if they do make this change, the punishment for tampering would be at least a 1 year ban for the coaching staff who broke that rule. 

4 hours ago, Enhance said:

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like I rarely see an offensive linemen with a stomach significantly different than that photo...

It isn't as much the bellies as it is the arms and more so the chests. 

8 hours ago, runningblind said:

If you prepare to be surprised, you won't be surprised. Duh. 

Don't make this about me koolaid man.   Smashing walls isn't enough for you? Now you think you have to smash other people's pride?

Kirk ferentz is the only active d1 coach at the same school since 1999.   Gary Patterson is 2nd, being hired in 2000.   Coming in at 3rd, frank solich, being hired in 2005 by Ohio.   

1 minute ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

I love the optimism... But 6-6 seems likely. 

 

I just want to see inspired play, improvement in the scheme, and promise for what could be a special 2019 season.

Prepare to be surprised.  

13 minutes ago, suh_fan93 said:

 

 

The funny thing is when I originally said this about Saban it had nothing to do with any GOAT discussion.  It also doesn't change the fact that I'll go with TO all damn day.

 

The end.

 

 

 

Damn.  I was going to reply but now it's at the end.  I better up my BBS skills.   

I love these types of expectations from the talking heads.   It'll make it that much more fun when we win 10 and go to a new years bowl game next year. 

On 1/15/2018 at 8:43 AM, 1994 Husker said:

...I was so blessed to be of age to watch these teams in real time...MR Frost was on these teams and knows full well what the locker room needs to be full of-insane maniacs between the whistles. He saw the type of systems and practice ideology..after 17 years now, I finally have hope in Husker football. The boosters and everyone else needs to leave coach alone to build program..I don’t really care if he goes .500 in next 2 years..in long run he WILL get it done..IMO

 

look at the composition of these men..compared to mike Reilly teams..these men reflect a absolutely successful weightlifting program..the linemen on roster now have chicken legs..get these men back to Olympic lifts..and a leader within the team needs to step up and police the lazy players..

 

number 67 has oak trees for legs..Look at technique of them getting low and driving forth..oh I miss this

 

 

 

I would amend the thread title to "great blocking=great success".  Having great linemen is a wonderful advantage, but blocking schemes can make up for having a lower tier of talent on the line.  The right scheme can make up for quite a few deficiencies, as we are going to see next season.  

1 minute ago, TGHusker said:

You guys are making me feel real old.   I'm from the day of the Minneapolis Moline Z, the John Deere B, the Massey Ferguson 85, and the Farmal M.   Growing up those were some of the tractors dad had on the farm near Parker, SD.  Only after I went to college did he get the air conditioned, climate controlled International with radio wt headjacks.  I can't hear  well because my tractor had the radio on the fender blaring louder than an F-18 flyover just so I could hear it - but my neighbor a 1/2 mile away could hear it just fine.

Wow, you are old.  What was it like when they signed the magna carta?

1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said:

Heck, they don't drive the tractor anymore anyway.

Hell,  my dad took a job as a telemarketer so he has something to do in the tractor while it drives itself.  

7 hours ago, StPaulHusker said:

Out of 130 FBS coaches, 28 have been at their school 6+ years.  The vast majority are from non-P5 schools.  

 

So my question again is how long is long term?

Well it's different than it was in the 80s and 90s when there were a lot of  coaches aging out of the business.   Bowden, Paterno,  Osborne, Edwards, etc were the last generation.  Since then, there have been a lot of changes in the game and that has led to a lot of coaches cycling out due to the inability to adapt.  At this point, I'd say 10 years is long term, but as things sort themselves out we will start to see another era of 20+ year coaches in the near future.  

3 hours ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

 

Is this what you're talking about?

 

 

 

I don't give a crap if they didn't have any standout players in the past 7 years (I have no idea if that's the case). You go there to try to get good walk-ons. Inviting them to the stadium is one thing. Having a coach show up in person is exciting for the kids. Osborne came in person to my high school in 1996 or 1997 (1.5 hour trip from Lincoln) for a running back we had who really wasn't that amazing but it's something everyone got pumped up for and everyone in town knew about and I think it's worth doing. I don't think Osborne had any intention of offering him a scholarship. I think he did it because he thought this guy would be a good walk on and maybe earn one later.

Not only that, but the university staff can help the local high schools develop the type of players they want.   

9 hours ago, LaunchCode said:

This thread cracks me up.  So many people fired up and demanding action without even questioning or wanting to know what all the facts of the matter are.  Good lord I hope I"m never wrongly accused of a crime and end up with a jury who decides innocence and guilt before the testimony even begins. 

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MR doesn't use an agent, if he was trying to milk dollars from anyone he'd have an agent.  He also wouldn't have stayed at OSU as long as he did when better more lucrative offers came his way if he put that high a priority on money.  I'm willing to bet he's had communication with N during this process and has no problem with setting an offset for his N contract at a reasonable salary amount for his new position something like 250k even though he's getting paid 50K. 

 

That said, lets be clear here, it wasn't MR who broke the contract in the first place, it was N who broke it by not honoring the specified contractual period he was to be HC, a time period both agreed upon when signing the contract.  The contract is there to protect both parties.  Once Nebraska decided not to live up to their end of the contract they knew the consequences and the price tag and now need to live up to what they agreed upon. 

We didnt break the contract.  Part of the contract is the ability to fire the employee prior to term and the specifics on how things go from there were laid out for both parties.   Riley HAS broken his end of the contract because 1. He didn't pursue comparable employment and 2. He didn't secure market value wages for his new employment.   

Bo took a head coaching job at a lower level school and received the same contract value as the man he replaced.   That would be tough to argue in court.   If he had taken that job and received 1/4 of what his predecessor did then it would have been a different story, but that's exactly what Riley has done.  

10 hours ago, Nebfanatic said:

18 right now but you have to look at the scores from years past. Alot of teams will move up from now.

Probably true, and I'm not saying that we will move into the top 20, I'm just saying it's possible.   If you look at who's behind us, only 2 teams have enough spots left that have a legitimate chance of passing us.   Ahead of us, between 35 and 18, only 3 teams aren't already nearly full or complete classes.  Now obviously the likelihood of signing 4 more 4 stars isn't real high, but after seeing what frost did in just 2 weekends of visits (9 signees), it isn't out of the realm of possibility.   

If I were a betting man i would put money on a top 25 class this year, which is remarkable.  

34 minutes ago, Decoy73 said:

This is complete BS.  In the absence of some already settled upon buyout reduction, NU better have their lawyers on top of this.  If they don't, it means one of two things:  NU screwed up big time with MR's contract OR NU has so much money that they will just let this slide because they may not want to risk any bad pub.  If it's the latter, I'm going to be very disappointed and will think real hard about future donations, because they obviously don't need them.

Bad pub for what?   We fired the coach who brought us out worst season in 50 years.  He then proceeded to screw us with a contract that is less than 25% of the going rate.    Litigating is only bad if you're being a jerk.   We wouldn't be a jerk here, we would be holding a jerk accountable.  

1 hour ago, HuskerNBigD said:

 

4th, according to this article.

 

http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2017/05/richest_college_football_progr.html

Not sure that I buy that article.   TAMU is by far the richest athletic department in the country of schools that report earnings.  Not sure if they were just focusing on football or leaving out licensing rights but there's no way that list is correct.  

26 minutes ago, BIG ERN said:

Notre Dame is the 4th most profitable CFB school to my knowledge. Brian Kelly makes $1.62M....I get that Ohio St has way more money than Oregon St but $50k is laughable. Hell, you can make $30k at McDonald's. Either way I don't really care about Mike anymore. We got Frost 

Notre dame is no lower than the 2nd most profitable and likely at the top.   They don't release their budget numbers and even if they did, it would be a modified number after the money they kick back into the university.  

1 hour ago, Nebfanatic said:

No way we end up top 20. 23-28 is my guess. Still really good all things considered.

 I used the class calculator and added in 4 of the 4 stars that are visiting over the next 2 weeks and it brought us to 18.   I don't expect it, but it wouldn't surprise me 

10 minutes ago, Kiyoat Husker said:

 

Yeah... I''m guessing that includes FCS, D-II, D-III and NAIA.

 

Asst. Head Coach has recently been used as a way to justify overpaying assistant coaches that recruit well (in FBS)

It has to.  I can't imagine the average salary of a d1 assistant coach is under 100,000, let alone an assistant head coach.   

38 minutes ago, Saunders said:

Yeah, usually there’s some sort of market value clause.

Yep.  This is a lawsuit waiting to happen and would be an easy win for the university.  It's almost as obvious as if he were to work for 1$ per year and is an obvious breach of contract.   If they choose to pursue it (they wont) it could negate the entire buyout clause.  

This class is important not just from a physical talent standpoint, but also because they are coming in with confidence in the staff and the system.  That confidence should affect the players from the previous 4 years in a good way.  

From a strictly talent perspective this class probably looks about as good as it's ranking: mid 30s.   That being said, the group isn't complete and 5 weeks ago we were in the low 70s so it's a huge upgrade already.  By the 24/7 class calculator we have a really good shot at ending up with a top 20 class.   That in itself is an amazing feat.   

55 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

Off the top of my head, currently the coaches have a really tough decision on some kids on whether to burn their shirt or save it for the next season. We've had dozens examples where the redshirt was burned and then the player had no meaningful plays, so it was a waste. Maybe there are kids who really really want to play during their true freshman year. You could put them in for a few games and maybe they'll see they're not tearing it up against college players and realize it's better to wait.

 

If we had this change, they wouldn't have to worry about it. If the kid contributed they'd decide it's fine to burn the shirt. If they didn't do a lot in the 4 games, then they would not burn the shirt. This year we could've given Gebbia a chance in the last 4 games if the coaches thought he'd play better than Lee or O'Brien. Or in 2009 we could've put Taylor Martinez in against Iowa State or Texas without taking a year of eligibility away from him. On the other hand our opponents could do the same thing.

Imagine the effect it would have had on Jordan Stevenson.  He burned his redshirt only to find out he wasn't ready to compete and it screwed up his confidence.  If we could have given him 4 games to find out where he was without losing a whole year just for meaningless action he may have benefited from it and worked harder to improve instead of just giving up. 

Martinez and it's not even close.   Just think about how good he could have been if we actually had a qb coach during his years.   

Seriously, did he just work with beck during practice?  

We had a very highly rated running back a couple of years ago that could have benefited from this.  It would have saved him from the ineptitude of our coaching staff.