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30 minutes ago, JJ Husker said:

I guess that is one way define it, staying to the end of a loss, if you’re trying to convince yourself that Iowa has great fans on par with Nebraska. My problem is I couldn’t even begin watching Iowa play week in and week out. Sure you’ve won more lately than Nebraska but gdamn that is some ugly boring ball going on in Iowa City. Maybe you are great fans because you seem to like it.

I had never stated that Iowa has great fans, or at least greater than any other school. Every school has some great fans, it is just a bit interesting to refer to yourselves as "the greatest".

I certainly agree that football in Iowa City can be boring, but that does not mean that Iowa fans are greater, or less great, than any other school.

Referring to ones self as the "greatest" at anything is just asking for others to try to knock you down. My point was that it was easy back when the Huskers were a good football team. With a solid losing record, I am not so sure. 

5 hours ago, Husker in WI said:

 

If you want to come up with a list of criteria that the "best fans" must collectively meet for you to consider them the "best fans," go right ahead. But can you name a fanbase where no one would leave some of the games we've played? Every fanbase has fans who will leave early when the game is clearly lost, and that happens more when the losses pile up. Every fanbase has fans who will stick it out until the bitter end. I don't think it's a particularly good measurement of a fanbase's quality, and Nebraska is at least not worse than anywhere else in that regard.

So, what dictates "greatest fans"? Once again, easy to be great when winning, not so much when the losses pile up! It was easy to be great when the Huskers pummeled literally everybody that came to Lincoln. Frankly, great fans are the ones that support the team and stay to the end, even when they are losing, as that is when a team needs the support the most.       

5 hours ago, Husker03 said:

We haven't been good for 20 years and we still show up every week. It's easy to believe the whole, "greatest fans" thing because it's true.

 

That's why it's easy to believe it.

Then why are not in the stands at the end of every game?

7 minutes ago, Slow yer Roll said:

Ive went and looked at other boards.

 

 

The parallels are surprising, but what really stands out is how teams that are doing great, have fans that b!^@h just as much as ours.

 

Literally,  if you've read one board, you've read them all.

 

 

 

You are spot on! Every board is about he same, and yes, I do visit the boards of some of our rivals, as it is part of being a rivalry.

I grew up during a time that Nebraska was good, and on this side of the river it was rubbed in our faces. It is easy to believe in the whole "greatest fans" thing, but it is easy when you are good. When a team is bad, all fans, no matter the team, turn into the same vindictive folks as anywhere else, slamming the coaching staff, the AD, other fans, the press, and even the players (look back at this Boards threads). When a team goes from being good, and the swagger that goes along with it, to being bad, those people/states that were looked down upon at one time have a chance to pay back a little. The difference no is the internet.  

Since 2013, Iowa has won 8 and Nebraska has won 2. 5 bowl games since 2013 (and none since 2016), vs 9 for Iowa Last year you snuck by one of the worst offensive team in the nation. Huskers lose the close ones and somehow the Hawkeyes win the close ones, even when they shouldn't. It comes down the the attitude of winners vs losers. I really hoped Ruhl would help, but losing seems to be second nature to him also. 

That all said, it will be interesting to see what happens to the program once Kirk Ferentz retires. 2 coaches since 1979 is pretty amazing.  

Hmmmmmmmm, just to be certain. Between the Huskers and the Hawkeyes, which team is 2-0 and which team is 0-2? Tough to talk too much trash is you are the 0-2.  Imagine if Iowa even had an average offense.

The Scott Frost experiment clearly showed that being an alumni was not enough to get the job done. Same with Trev. Was he really the right guy, or did t just feel good at the time? Like Frost, Trev was going to be the savior………not so much.

The Rhule pressers sounds just like Frost. Great practices, guys are buying into the program, we are just a couple of plays away from winning, yada, yada, yada. He says it will take a few years? Maybe in the old days! With the portal and NIL, Colorado has proven that a turnaround can happen FAST. Frankly, I would pin that decision making squarely on Trev Alberts.

I really hope that the next coach will be better.

1 hour ago, huskerfan74 said:

Our players body language when we get blow out is disturbing. They do not seem to be phased by losing. They are smiling and acting as if they won the game. I am not sure if this is a generational thing or just us getting accustomed to being the Kansas of old. It is sad and I do not see Rhule changing that.

Neither the team or Rhule acted like they really gave a chit. The players are used to losing and are fine with it and Rhule gets at least 4 years worth of big paychecks. Tough to build when you establish that losing is OK.

Checked in on here to say something smartassed, but the "Worlds Greatest Football Fans" have pretty much said it all! I thought Ruhl might be the guy, but Trev better get the big boys checkbook ready!

OK, let me get this straight. It was better to lose the first game than to win the first game? After losing for 20 years, it seems like maybe the players, coaches, and fans have grown used to losing. This whole "I'd rather lose now and build" is BS. With the NIL and transfer portal this theory is so 5, 10, or 20 years ago. The days of recruiting a player and that player having the loyalty to stick with the team until they get to start as a Junior or Senior is over. You either win or the good players will leave. 

Out of everything, I'd be most upset that Ruhl did not seem pissed at the presser. He should have been pissed at his players, coaches, and refs. It might not have changed anything, but it could show some passion, which is something that I thought he had more of.

If you do start to build a program, he will be off to the Pros again...................................

From a rivals perspective, there is no doubt that every loss over the past 20 years have been due to blown ref calls. I also heard from a source that it was the B1G Refs that counted the votes from the last presidential election. There are penalties on virtually every play and some get called, but many do not. Get over it. Losses have been due to horrible coaching and less than great talent. That said, less than great talent can become great with great coaching. I am wondering at this point if Ruhl has what it takes. He should have been pissed off at the presser, but instead pulled out Frosts notes to read. We were close.....getting better.....had a great week in practice....gunna get'em next week!

Colorado may hang a bunch on the Huskers if they don't get pissed and play with passion.

Iowa did win today, right? Iowa is 1-0.

Interesting that football players at Iowa and Iowa State were singled out from every other school in the nation. Why would the Iowa DCI decide to spend their time and resources on such a topic? You Nebraska folks did not plant somebody in the Iowa DCI, did you? 

"Oops. Freud would have a field day with this one "

Hmmmm, yes he certainly would have! Do you talk allot about other guys asses?

Once again, this thread pretty much validates the rivalry that the two schools/states have. To say there is no rivalry here is being completely oblivious to what a rivalry is.

On another note, I really do hope that the Husker program sees a turnaround. 

"I think it also proves that you're either talking about your a$$ or you're far too obsessed with your rival than is healthy."

Talking about my a$$, or talking out my a$$? Big difference. 

"That's just objectively false. Nebraska fans do that even in losses."

That is BS. Most do not applaud for the other team. They used to, but no more.

Bobby Bowdens letter was from 1980! That was 43 years ago. I will say that the fans are still way way above average, but they are no longer as good as they used to be back when the Huskers were winning. It is easy to be a  good fan when you are winning!

That was a great "Play of the Day" clip! Lets see all of the clips where the team lost going down the stretch, the fans booing, and the team concentrating more on a mustache contest than the game. 

The bottom line is that this thread proves that there is, indeed, a rivalry!

"So you don’t understand the difference between us applauding a team that didn’t give up even though there was no hope of winning vs fans not applauding the losing team that has been cocky douche canoes the last decade or so. Got it."

Seriously? You do not even applaud for your own team any more even when they tried their hardest and did not give up. Hell, most fans were out of the stadium leaving the ones that left to boo the team as they destructed (yes, I realize that you say the boos are for the coaches, but I don't think the players see it that way) I am not saying it is right or wrong, I am just saying why Iowa does not like Nebraska and we have enjoyed seeing the last miserable 25 years of Husker football. 

Some of you may not think so, but between the way the Huskers treated Iowa in the last century, and Iowa pretty much dominating since then, it does indeed make it a rivalry that will continue on (that was the question in the thread). I like the rivalry myself, and I am not sure why most of you will not admit it. 

"Only an Iowa fan would get butt hurt for an opposing team’s fans showing some class towards them after they just got their asses handed to them. SmH"

My point was that your fan base quit doing it when the team became losers. What happened to the class?

"So you admit your team was bad and here you are trying to troll another fan base."

No doubt admitting that at least the offense was horrible. Cannot win if you cannot put points up.

"How many rando Illinios fans stopped by to tell us about the kid going to Illinios?"

I assume that you meant Illinois. That said, the Husker fan base has never had the hatred for them like you have Iowa, so they may not see as much joy in seeing the dumpster fire the program had become. I would still like to see Matt Ruhl turn the program around.

"Being Iowa fan is just sad.  We are in the midst of the worst stretch of Husker football in a long, long time, yet more people care about the Huskers.  Oh, and we beat Iowa this year."

Yes, the huskers beat the team with one of the worst offenses in D1. Iowa has been horrible the past 2 years on offense. I will give you that.

The reasoning behind folks like us caring about the Huskers is how your team went about winning, and how your fans were demeaning to other teams and fans way back in the last century when they were good. Remember when you all would applaud for the losing team as they came off the field after a 40, 50, 60 point drubbing? The reason you applauded the other team is that you were the self anointed "best fans in college football". Fast forward several years, several coaches, and a TON of horrible seasons and no longer do the greatest fans applaud the losing team (btw, far fewer teams lose in Lincoln). When that swagger was shoved down our throats for years, it is easy to laugh about your team now, along with the fans that have abandoned the team at many games right there in Lincoln. 

With that, I do hope that Ruhl at least gets the Huskers to be competitive as a joke can only last so long...................... 

It should actually sting a bit more that he chose "has won something never U" over  Nebraska

That's got to sting a bit that Omaha native Michael Burt chose  Tight End University over the Huskers.

Like I say, I hope that it does not happen, but........

https://huskercorner.com/2023/05/30/nebraska-cornhuskers-conferences-kicking-out/

Wow, pulling up a clip from the last century? What was that, 3,4,5 head coaches ago? How many AD's have you been through? What is the Husker record since then? The oldest player on the team was not even born yet! Yea, I can see why you went back that far!

Most people that I know are glad to see Barta retire, and I do believe that, in part, it did have to do with a few lawsuits over the past 5 years or so that he did not handle very well. Hopefully the new AD will bring some new insights to move the Hawkeye program forward.

I still hope that Coach Ruhl gets the job done. We have heard discussion about Neb getting booted from the Big 10, and nobody in Iowa would be in favor of that. Word has it that the ONLY thing keeping Neb in the Big 10 is the fan support. It does take good fans to support a team that has been an absolute dumpster fire for over 20 years and has brought very little to the Big 10 (remember when "Frosty" was going to "bring it" to the Bog 10?"

20 hours ago, runningblind said:

Is it Clark that is getting too big for her britches, or is it Iowa football fans? 

Might be some of both! The past few seasons of football could have been a real bloodbath without special teams and defensive play. Most fans don't see it, they just see the record. I am in the minority, but I don't think that it was just Brian Ferentz, the offense just flat lacked talent, especially at QB, but also the line.

I cannot imagine having a s#!tty offense, defense, AND special teams for the past 20 years.