Jeepy

It's the same guys, no matter how they practice or what their coaches say or what meetings they have.  Some of those guys remind me of some slouches I was assigned to train at Fort Benning several decades ago;  fresh out of the stockade and trying to avoid undesirable discharges by retraining.  Most of them were pathetic and it was impossible to move them past a certain point in all aspects of training.   What they learned in the class rooms and on paper could not be seen in performance.  

24 minutes ago, secretasianman said:

https://www.omaha.com/huskers/football/husker-defense-coming-up-short-on-third-down-and-especially/article_251df52f-fb17-523f-890f-900141387726.html

 

Here you go, it’s getting attention.  Dead last in the Big Ten and 77th nationally on allowing third down conversions.

Ah good.  

Now let's send it to Scott Frost, Uber Coach Extraordinaire

We don't need to know the content of that meeting nearly as much as any results that may show up on the field week by week. 

47 minutes ago, RedNebraskan said:

I don't want to watch this game, as I really don't like how Wisky kicks our butts, however I will watch anyways.  That's just how my brain works.  

Yeah I'm the same way.  I'll watch it all.. and my wife will watch every minute closely and yell at every penalty against us and scream with joy at every yard we gain and gleefully destroy knick-knacks and furniture at every point we score. 

So, you know, it's a survival thing. 

I wish all the talk about the offense by Frost and the local media would morph over to the defense giving up third and longs and just as many yards as our offense gains, etc.

Every game we've played were winnable (ignore Michigan.. it was merely survivable);  we gained enough yards and scored enough points but the defensive squad is run by American Athletic Conference standards.  

Not to mention the well talked about penalties. 

3 minutes ago, BoSolich said:

we haven't covered a line all year, so i think we are due.

 

and i don't think wisconsin has as much talent as michigan. i actually think we will cover. something like 42-21 seems doable.

If Frost et al can get the defense into an effective penalty eradication clinic we could more than cover. 

Spoilermakers - 27

Huskers - 24

Huskers rushing - 222

Huskers passing - 178

Gawd I hope I'm wrong.  Make me wrong, Martinez.  Gifford.  Barry. 

We've got our usual tickets.  In section 17.  If this is a real offer and is in section 6 or 26 we'll take them.

31 minutes ago, ladyhawke said:

I just look at the mess they came into coupled with a group of very young inexperienced players, introduction of anew scheme-It doesn’t surprise me that they are struggling. 

Agree again. 

4 hours ago, LaunchCode said:

It's laughable reading over and over again people claiming last years results were due to coaching and turning around and blaming this years results on the players who by and large a year older and more experienced.  

 

Let's just be honest.  Constantly changing systems, terminology, and schemes will set even the most capable of players back.  It's just spin suggesting SF's record will improve given time to recruit to his system and get it fully implemented,  and on the other hand hammer MR who didn't get that time to fully implement his system.  He was forced to accept a new DC and defense in his third season so back to square one even though it was year three.  Up to now we've been more interested in getting our pound of flesh than biding our time and letting things develop.  Hopefully that changes.  

Well said.  And yes, "hopefully that changes." 

We're lifetime season ticket holders.  That's our hope and we'll never let it go.  

Meanwhile, this is the Big 10, Mr. Frost. 

39 minutes ago, ladyhawke said:

No. Scott knows what he is doing, the direction he’s taking the team and realizes that it will take time. He’s a very intelligent individual who is committed to making this program great again. 

I agree with that.  But I do have to say that I believe it without as much excitement as I did prior to that Colorado loss.. Troy loss.. Michigan epic blowout. 

He and his staff, largely from UCF, may be lost right now.  They don't say they are, but they may be.

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If you don't like that source, check around to tech outlets and computer code/malware sites.

Trump just won't talk about this stuff, except to deny it's even going on, let alone apply pressure to Russia. 

Does he consider Russia an ally?  That's the country that vowed to "bury" the U.S. decades ago, and who has worked on doing so militarily, politically, and financially.

That quote and those points from SB Nation, in the OP, say it all.  Especially the 2 and 3.

I feared for the defense back when I looked at UCF's horrible stats on defense, even as they went undefeated.   In the Big 10 you won't go undefeated while at or near the bottom of the conference in defense stats.

My guess is that the Purdue coaches are showing film of our O-line being pushed around for much of the game by Michigan's defensive line and line backers. 

It's not about how they did it.  It's about the fact that they did it to the point of our quarterbacks being hurried through most of the first half, and too much of the second half. 

That happening at home this Saturday could be fatal for the team's season, not just that game.  That O-line needs an attitude change, imo.  They're great athletes.. they need to get out of the Riley head space. 

20 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

What is an "Upvote"?

 

Is it better than Plus One or a Thanks?

I've noticed we also have the option to comment on posts.  Like I'm doing now.

Pretty bad, no matter how you slice it. 

2 hours ago, Nebfanatic said:

Who are the folks who wished he would have stayed in Florida? Haven't seen any of that around here. 

 

Having faith isn't being naive. It doesn't matter one way or the other. Fandom is nothing but personal preferance. I could be an Idaho football fan and truly believe we are going to win the natty before every season. It wouldn't affect my life in the grand scheme of things. 

 

If we aren't breaking through by year 3 there is a problem, just look at any other successful coach at the P5 level.

Haven't seen much stinky anti-Frost stuff here.. it's one of the reasons I joined the other day. 

As far as "faith" goes, I don't tap that for anything other than spiritual matters.  Confidence can come along, seasoned with a lot of hope, and my hopes for this Frost era being on par with the Osborne era are probably unrealistic, but that is what I'm hoping for in my old age.. 9 win seasons at a minimum, conference championship games, national title games.  All that, just liek it was.  Can Frost do it? 

4 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

So Bo gets a longer leash? What is a breakout year? I do think we need to exercise a little faith in year 1 of a rebuild. Perhaps I trust him more than other coaches because he is "one of ours" I would rather give Scott every opportunity plus 1 to get us headed in the right direction. 

Yeah the Bo Pelini thing makes it seem unfair to say "four years and the 5th the biggie.." etc.  But you didn't ask how I felt about Bo.    I wanted him gone before he got here, having read about how many folks felt about him at LSU.  I was perplexed by all the "Bo knows" stuff up here. 

15 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

I have not spoken to a single person that doesnt think Scott is the right man for the job. Even during our rough start this season. EVERYONE says he is the one. I am going to give Scott a very long leash to get the ship righted. He WILL fix this puppy and I am willing to give him plenty of time. Part of it is probably because he is Scott Frost but part of it is we need to allow a coach time to establish what needs to be established. I felt differently regarding Riley because he has a track record of sucking. 

There are those who wish he'd have stayed in Florida.  They talk about his heading to Stanford and other displays of lack of Nebraska loyalty.  Read around in other forums.  I got tired of fighting with them.

As to his coaching abilities, I want to be honest:  I really have no idea if he can do here what he did at UCF.  Some golden boy types went down the tubes trying to right the ship at their old alma mater.  Some did okay.  I just don't know about him here.  I don't exercise "faith" with regard to these things;  I find that naive.  What I do allow myself to think and hope for is plenty of time for him;  say 4 full seasons with the 5th being the breakthrough one.  I think by then we'll see what he's made of as to righting this Husker ship.

1 hour ago, Redux said:

 

That quote was about UCF actually 

I saw that but had more fun with applying it to Nebraska, the actual used-to-be national power.

Well, so. 

Then there really is no curse.

I read the whole thread.  Couldn't find a curse.  How about a T.O. curse:   "Darn you Michigan."  Or, "Darn you Oklahoma."   That's better.

1 hour ago, Redux said:

 

Yeah.......national power...

National has been.  Hopefully on the verge of getting back to being a bit relevant now and then.  Frost likely dreamed of making it happen fast. 

He'll be redefining "fast" as time goes by.

13 hours ago, dvdcrr said:

There is a lot to mull here.  

3-4 more years of Bo's angry raging face getting more air time than our players? 3-4 more years of the image of our program being such a raging caricature?

Really liked Bo as a D coordinator but on the whole, and in review, should not have been the face of our program.  

Hiring Mike Riley... the biggest mistake:

1. Firing Solich with no "Plan B?"

2. Hiring Steve Pederson?

3. Hiring Shawn Eichorst?

4. White pants with white jerseys?

The plane on the tarmac just came to mind. 

And all that. 

Question is:  Are we really done with all that?  All those mistakes?  I believe in trickle down as to good and bad.  We've had a terrible time with the Athletic Department at UNL as to populating and running the football program.  For twenty years now.  It just makes me wonder about successful schools out there.. the perennial ones must have their stuff together when it comes to "top to bottom" in their approach.  We have not since T.O. left. 

1 hour ago, BoNeyard said:

Things are easier in hindsight.

 

Looking back it is mostly about bad hires and not bad firings. With that, Frost is not a bad hire at all, he's a great hire.

 

Heck, looking back firing Pelini was probably a mistake given we hired Riley. I know many at the time would say it was bad fire, but hiring Callahan was a mistake looking back at it. Obviously that entire coaching search was awful.

 

 

The Riley hire was about "nice guy" stuff, not about good coach stuff, let alone about a coach who understands Nebraska.  Remember the quote from the AD?  It was about how impressed he was just seeing and hearing Riley's demeanor.  "I knew right then that was our man," after just meeting him. 

Well look at what that nice guy did and what's left of his legacy here. 

Lots to digest here.  The remarks about Frost falling down on the job or not getting the team up for the game, for either half but mostly in the first half, seem true looking back at clips and just remembering that sinking feeling watching them get out played.  But it was Michigan.

And something keeps reminding me that the "Frost Alert" etc  hype really took hold of many of us Husker fans.  Look at last year and look at what he's got now.  It's still a Riley & Company squad and mentality.  Mentality does not change over night, and the crew itself can't come in and yell at people in the gym and on the practice field and expect sudden changes in people who bought into laziness during Riley's tenure.