Jeepy

2 hours ago, lo country said:

TO- Gave us Frank without any choice

Frank-Should've been given more time after 2003 IMHO.  Fired his defensive staff, lost Carl Crawford, still fired

 

Cally-Great recruiter.  Completely changed scheme and culture of NU. Both have never returned.  Doomed by Cos as DC

 

Bo- Got stuck with Wats (again TO).  Incredibly inexperienced staff.  Volatile temper made him viral in a bad way.  Couldn't get over the 9-10 win hump (I'd like those days back).  Burned his own house down.  Once Cally's guys were gone and Sanders and Carl left, this option went south fast.

 

Riley-Clown.  Never should have been hired.  Mister .500.  Incompetent HC with an even more incompetent staff.

 

Frost-Prodigal son.  Right hire, right time, right place.  I trust in the process, perhaps not his whole scale scheme.  I think he will adapt to the B1G.  They won't adapt to us.  If it was anyone other than Frost that started 0-3, we would have already run him out of town.  He is NU royalty and gets time.  He inherited a dumpster fire.  However, fans just want to see improvement as we go along.  IMHO, we haven't hit bottom yet.  It'll take 3-4 years to fix and start to see permanent change ie no blowout losses, competitive game in and game out (year after year) be in the conference hunt etc....Again, right guy, right time, right hire.  (Give him time will grow thin in year 3 though)

Another nice synopsis of the past several coaches.  That last paragraph about Scott seems spot on.   Gawd we want wins that should be wins (Troy.. those to come). 

The past isn't entirely in the past.  It's part of what makes us.  It's like a foundation, and sometimes it's shaky.  Thus my concerns.  Want to forget these terrible coaches?   Better not. 

3 minutes ago, JJ Husker said:

BTW, hasn't this subject been covered hereabouts before....about 100 times

 

I'm tired of talking about the past. Frost is the answer, and if he's not, there is no answer.

I'm new here, gimme a break. 

I like Redux's post up there:

- Frank let himself and his staff lose the team and direction

- Callahan was never getting over the hump....ever

- Bo needed to cut his teeth elsewhere that didn't happen and he essentially peaked

- Riley....also peaked in year 2 and then fell back down to where he normally would have finished

So, four hiring mistakes. 

4 minutes ago, JJ Husker said:

 

Unfortunately the only way that atmosphere can be viewed in any reasonable perspective is to experience what we did. Of course we didn’t have to keep making the same mistake for as long as we did. At least it is on the way to being remedied now. Hopefully people realize it’s not going to be an overnight or even only 2 or 3 year complete fix. That should be obvious after these three games.

Now.. that ^  .. nitty gritty, in my opinion.  It's like bad marriages.  Or taking college courses that get you nowhere as to career satisfaction, etc:  You have to go through it to see that perspective. 

But.. all those coaches.  Could we have had success with Callahan if he stayed?   Yep he sure did wreck the old culture here, intentionally.  He wanted an NFL seeding camp, it appears.  How about Pelini?   Another three years might have gelled one hell of a team with Nebraska's resources.  

I'm wondering if this throwing out the baby with the bath water mentality is going to hit our boosters etc when we see Frost saying "just give it more time" in his third year here. 

Well, I'm concerned with what we've done with all these new coaches... Osborne left.. and we've been through four since then.  It seems crazy.  Were those hires all really mistakes?  Should we have let somebody stay longer?  Any of them?  Or have we been correct in cleaning house four damned times over the past 20 years?

How long will it take the powers that be to start feeling the same way about Frost? 

For twenty years we've heard 4 coaches say the same thing:  We need to be patient and let our new system get in place.  

We've been very patient for each coach.. generally.  Was the mistake in firing coaches too soon?  Should we have stuck with (Solich/Callahan/Pelini/Riley)?

9 minutes ago, Husker03 said:

Watched the replay, will disagree with this sentiment. Most of the defense did not give up the first half. A few slackers, (looking at you, D Young), but no wholesale towel throwing in. The o-line gave up all game but that’s nothing new. Outside of that, they had played hard and had chances to get things back under control until several of the killer mistakes and breakdowns,(Lindsey’s muff) allow things to get so out of control so quick that even the coaches phone it in after half. 

I have not watched a replay of the game yet.  Just clips and they bear out the lack of spot on play needed to compete, especially as you say:  the pathetic O-line.

Many of us exaggerate when we're pissed off and hurt as Husker fans.  Almost all of us.  It's all so "off" from what we used to see out there before Dr. Tom left.  So, yeah we blow our stack and we even see it a bit distorted to the negative.   Thing is, we know we deserve better. 

14 minutes ago, Landlord said:

 

 

Yeah, and then after that decade we'd get sick and tired of not winning championships and we'd be even angrier.

Likely true, but I keep thinking of how our expectations have morphed downward since the late 90s.  Remember?  From Solich to Callahan to Pelini to Riley our anger went from national championship anxiety to conference contender anxiety to just making it to any bowl game anxiety to just a winning season PLEASE to now:  Can we win a game?  Two games?

What the hell?

1 minute ago, Making Chimichangas said:

 

I slightly disagree.  There has been some noticable changes, they just haven't taken effect across the entire roster yet.

Okay. 

13 hours ago, Making Chimichangas said:

 

...these three losses have really opened my eyes to just how awful we are.  

 

 

My eyes have been opened to that, too.  I admit to getting on the Frost hype right away, and believing he'd turn it around big time.  The improvement of the defense in that Colorado game was a bit of vindication, but the collapse from then on.. well, it looked like any old Riley team.  No change. 

20 hours ago, Husker03 said:

He cleans house and keeps doing things his way. If we look like this years 3 and 4 we can talk about scheme changes.  Until then you’re just being unfair.  

Yes, well said.  His system needs to gel, and he's inherited a spotty team to say the best.  The morale factor alone is low, no matter what they say in front of reporter's mics.

They seem to only know how to lose, and they'll find a way to do that until the new system sets in with newer players.  That takes years.

How are t-shirt sales?

11 hours ago, Landlord said:

 

 

Teams do this all the time.

I'm aware of that.  But it has to be resisted strongly.. again, NO team takes the field and does not try their freaking best to win.. every play.. no matter the score.

Pass it on.

If this is true, I find it astoundingly reprehensible.  I find it downright scandalous.

NO team takes the field and does not try their freaking best to win.. every play.. no matter the score.

And it's Nebraska now?  What?

Send a link to this thread to our wonderful savior Head Coach.  Send copies to his championship staff. 

2 minutes ago, Hayseed said:

Not true at all... they just don’t measure up to the talent at Michigan. 

There will be another day... it’s one game.

Hoping you're right.

Coach seems to have lost them here.   I don't see team interaction with him.. but watching on TV.  Hopefully I'm wrong. 

2 minutes ago, germanforbigred said:

Don’t get why we don’t run. Saves Martinez some blows and and would be even better yardage wise

O-line is dysfunctional running or passing.

Martinez can't be a hero if he's not protected.  He can't even function.

Melt down.  Coach seems to have lost them.

4 minutes ago, 87skers said:

Thought we were done getting blown out Bc our team was gonna be “stronger” and out work everyone else 

Yeah.   Yep, that is what was being said.

If this game were happening under Riley, I'd understand.  But... 

Second half could be with Nebraska showing some personal fire.  Hey, O-line, there is a man across from you.. is he going to own you for the entire game? 

You're wearing Husker red!

Looks like Michigan is prepared. 

Looks like Nebraska is not. 

Twenty years.  We've been waiting twenty years for legitimacy, relevance. 

The Nebraska Cornhusker football team does seem to be cursed. 

Use this.  Do something.