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On 7/1/2019 at 12:09 PM, Huskers93-97 said:
That usually happens when people spend a bunch of time getting on their high horse about BIG10 standards. Somehow we have fallen into the BIG10 security blanket of "well we cant compete because we care about academics" argument. That doesnt make me feel better.
Yeah, who thinks college students should care about academics! Crazy!
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4 hours ago, tmfr15 said:
Like most people on this board, my expectations for Nebraska football are pretty high this year.... sometimes maybe too high, i.e. conference championship and playoff bid.
Still, it would seem that the direction of this this team is way up from a year ago. A solid bowl game bid, 10-win season, Big Ten West Division title.... those all seem reasonable.
That was until I watched the Purdue game.
Nebraska was just really bad in that Purdue game. We had flashes of good but so many dumb mistakes and breakdowns. Can we fix it all in one calendar year?
And then you look at how Purdue finished. They went 6-6 and then got beat 63-14 by Auburn in the Music City Bowl. Auburn was ahead 42-7 with 8+ minutes left until half. It felt like Auburn could have scored 100.
What I saw against Purdue was a theme of last year. There's good, but then there's, "What the heck are you doing?" Like A-Mart's backwards pass to JD against the Bucks. Why? Just Why?
I love the Huskers and I am ready for a breakout season. So I want to believe great things are about to happen.
But I also have a bit of pause in my enthusiasm after Purdue.
Anybody empathize?
Yes. After a 4-8 season, the burden of proof is on the coaching staff to prove to us they can have what it takes.
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39 minutes ago, Moiraine said:
I misspoke the other day, but had it right earlier in the topic.
Martinez is #3 in returning total offense this season in the country. If you want people to stop talking about him potentially being the best player or best quarterback in the conference or the country this season, it’s not going to happen.
Below are the Heisman contenders from 2018-2019 season...Note how the only significant 1st or 2nd place votes were cast for Kyler Murray, Tua Tagovailoa, or Dwayne Haskins....from teams who have a good record. Nebraska will have to be in National Championship contention (in other words a very good record) before AM will even compete for the Heisman. Yet you think people are crazy for pumping the brakes on a Martinez for Heisman?
Kyler Murray Oklahoma 2018 Record (12-2) Tua Tagovailoa Alabama 2018 Record
(14-1)
Dwayne Haskins Ohio State
2018 Record (13-1)
Will Grier West Virginia
2018 Record (8-4)
Darrell Henderson Memphis
2018 Record
(8-6)
Gardner Minshew Washington State
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(11-2)
Jonathan Taylor Wisconsin
2018 Record
(8-5)
Travis Etienne Clemson
2018 Record
(15-0)
Quinnen Williams Alabama 2018 Record
(14-1)
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On 4/18/2019 at 6:54 AM, grandpasknee said:
Let's get to at least 9 wins before this hype gets any wind in its sails. He led a 4-8 team last year. He did well, but slow the roll a little bit for goodness sakes!
Can someone older than me (I was born in '87) tell me if this amount of Koolaid and Hype (Heisman Watch Top 5, Best QB in the Conference) used to start before anyone had even played a game in the 70s and 80s? It seems like they push it earlier and earlier every year. I feel like they are trying to sell us Xmas decorations before Halloween.
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On 6/29/2019 at 11:01 PM, Mavric said:
4-8 last year, and now ranked #19.....pumping a straight IV of Koolaid into the veins
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11 minutes ago, Moiraine said:
No one believes that.
I would say that most if not all of the "changing the culture" argument in favor of Scott Frost is based, if you drill down far enough, to working harder or making players more team oriented. What else are you supposed to gain from "The Program", or in the words of Erik Chinander :
" “The ‘care factor’ is high right now — about each other and about the program. Scott does an unbelievable job. And I think what makes him the best is the culture piece of this whole thing.”
I think there are some people who think Scott Frost brings great coaching ability and skill to his position. I also believe there are others that believe all he had to do was "change the culture". You heard it on the radio when he was hired (especially in reference to how the culture had deteriorated under Reilly), and particularly in regards to former players, here is what Matt Davison had to say:
“I don’t think character was something that was looked at enough. I don’t think fit in Nebraska was looked at enough,” Davison said.
Frost’s staff is placing an emphasis on character on the recruiting trail, Davison said. If they like a kid’s film, but not the kid, they won’t offer. They don’t just watch the highlight film, they watch entire games of recruits. They want guys who compete every play, Davison said.
Other problems that added to the culture the past few years, according to Davison, were issues in the weight program and overall accountability.
“We need better players and we need guys that are willing to go do things that we ask them to do,” Davison said.
When Davison looks at the team right now, he sees guys who want to win. Guys who had no fun a year ago and want to get better. But the culture needs work.
Jason Peter on Mike Riley and what Frost had to fix "An undisciplined, player-coddling culture "
When Davison looks at the team right now, he sees guys who want to win. Guys who had no fun a year ago and want to get better. But the culture needs work.
You are really telling me that no one believes that all Scott Frost had to do was come to Nebraska and change the culture (instilling hard work and team first attitude)?
Or if you have a different definition of culture, what is it?
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19 minutes ago, Undone said:
You mean in the one hour since you created your new account? Tell me more...
Lurking is a slang term for when an individual reads a message board without posting or engaging with the community. Lurking is sometimes encouraged by forum moderators as a way for new members to get a sense of the community and etiquette before participating.
You can view the forum before becoming a member....
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7 minutes ago, Scarlet Overkill said:
Did 0-6 ruin the rest of the season?
Please do “run for the hills”. Kthxbye.
You are right, they weren't caring enough until game 7. (Posted from the hills I ran to - CriticalFan)
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8 minutes ago, Undone said:
Heh, strong first post!
To the quoted section, you're really not going to find anybody on this forum that actually believes that, so that's really a straw man.
The rest of the points you made were more or less valid, but here's the part you're missing: Anything that can be used as a tool to get the team to respond in a way where "team" is placed over the individual that yields positive outcomes is beneficial. You kind of painted it out as an all or nothing, black/white situation that really is a straw man of any actual argument in favor of this sort of training.
It's really about the coach leading the team into this sort of program, actually. If the players trust the coach to not put them through something intentionally hokey and full of frills and they respond positively and grow closer to this kind of thing, a benefit is yielded. Don't overthink it.
We will have to agree to disagree on whether or not people believe that all NU has to do is "work harder" or be more "team oriented", I see too much evidence of this in the forum and in those I talk to on a day to day basis.
However, I do think you are right that I could have been missing some of the point in painting it as a black and white situation. Thanks for a constructive reply.
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Defensive coordinator Erik Chinander hears all the suggestions about physicality and execution and scheme. He offers something else.
“They want to play for each other,” he said. “The ‘care factor’ is high right now — about each other and about the program. Scott does an unbelievable job. And I think what makes him the best is the culture piece of this whole thing.”
A large amount of pre-season "journalism" (way too strong a word for gossip and propaganda/hype) is just to fill pages with ink so you can give something to readers who are aching for something to fill in their football diet....also as a disclaimer I could not read the full article, because I am not a subscriber. HOWEVER, whenever I hear touchy feely things coming from the coach's mouth, like 'caring', 'work ethic', etc, it makes me want to run for the hills. The farther the coaches get away from concrete things they are doing different, and the closer they get to "working harder" and "caring more", the more worried I get for our season.
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"The Program" and routines like it are commonplace in college football and have never been shown to be effective. I don't post this to be a downer, but I just can't stand all the sunshine pumping. People seems to think all Nebraska has to do is "work harder", and "be 100% committed and team-oriented" and we will win championships. The idea that treating football like a military exercise is a good tactic, to either win football games, or build team spirit, has been debunked over and over again, from Paul Bear Bryant at Texas A&M, through to the modern medical understanding of sports injuries and psychology.
Ohio Bobcats 2014 after Navy Seal Training: 6-6 record
Northwestern Wildcats 2014 after Navy Seal Training: 5-7 record
Arizona Football 2016 after Navy Seal Training: 3-9 record
You could go on and on and on and on and on. You could also find great teams that go through Navy Seal Training in the pre-season and do great in the regular season. Because those teams are already good.
https://www.amazon.com/How-We-Can-Save-Sports/dp/1442242647
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Martinez for Heisman
in Husker Football
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Nope, but I thought Iowa natives didn't know how to drive? Are we sure they know where the brake pedal is?