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While the details are interesting, I don't find it a revelation Warren manipulated the internal dialog to reach the decision he supported from the outset.  

My curiosity is just how drunk w/power was he?  Following the Power 5 Presidents meeting, the media buzz was that the outlook was "negative", the BIG & PAC would announce a decision the following day, & "the SEC was expected to follow the BIG's lead".  

OK, the PAC was never going to play, the BIG is announcing w/them, I wasn't even a little surprised the season was cancelled, & then pleasantly surprised NU wanted to go forward on it's own.  

But, that last statement in any context is laughable.  The SEC would push forward if all their games were being played in Wuhan.  Who was naïve enough to create that narrative?  The South might succeed from the union over CF & the SEC gives the NCAA the middle finger.  Who believed they were going to follow Warren's lead?  Warren?  If so, this clown thought he was playing 4D Chess while playing tidily winks.  

1 hour ago, Bledred said:

Looks like the Big Six Rebellion of 2020 is at its end.  And the culprit is none other than Gretchen the Grinch who stole the 2020 College Football Season.

 

"I was also told that one roadblock to the new plan is the fact that Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer has been vehemently opposed to football being played—at the high school and college level—in the state this fall," explained veteran college football writer Jeff Snook.

After the Big Ten Conference postponed its football season on August 11, Ohio State's Smith recruited the University of Iowa, University of Nebraska, and Penn State University to be part of a six-team season. To move forward with the season, Smith needed to get two more programs on board and was hopeful Harbaugh's Wolverines would be one of them."

 

https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/the-gretchen-who-stole-football/

Decisions to allow programs and individuals the choice to play or not are politically motivated/geopolitical?  I'm stunned to learn of this...

1 hour ago, The Duke said:

 

 

 

At least we have clarity on that.  I suspect this "view" developed after NU announced it would explore options because Warren's response took 24 hours to evolve. 

I'll believe spring ball happens when I see it, but accepting this plan as sincere, shouldn't Big10 teams be permitted to hold a Fall Camp to replace the traditional spring ball they will lose?

21 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

1000%.  So many people in power tripping over themselves to "take action" w/o actually having a plan it's mind-numbing. 

6 minutes ago, DrinkinwitTerrellFarley said:

 I don't believe there is any serious intention to playing in the Spring.  It's just kicking the can until that's canceled and then they start play in Fall of '21.

Delay Camp...Conference Only...Conference Only Schedules released...Delay Contact...Power 5 Presidents meet...doom & gloom for all of CF...Big 10 & PAC 10 cancel season...everybody else says we're going forward...Pushback...Big10 will consider a spring season.  We've been watching this movie a while, ending is painfully obvious.

I don't know the level of competition in the clips I've seen of Buford, but he mirrors WR's.   An ability I haven't seen from a NU recruit in a long time & I saw it out of man off & press coverage.   He buzzes his feet and flips his hips effortlessly.  If Buford has raw speed, I don't see how the kid is a 3*.

2 hours ago, BigRedN said:

 

Additional question to others ... it doesn't appear that we offered this guy ... but he was the #1 OL recruit in Iowa and we give out 400 offers per year it seems ... so just wondering if we offered or he was locked up early before we could offer?

 

 

After reading this, I looked at his 247 profile, & think the answer is obvious
 

On ‎6‎/‎23‎/‎2020 at 1:11 PM, 84HuskerLaw said:

Hm.  Thanks for the help.  Gives me some things to delve into for a better understanding.  I will try to study more closely these points.  

https://www.shakinthesouthland.com/2011/8/15/2358269/on-the-3-4-switch-and-multiple-fronts

This article is a little dated, but breaks down much of what I discussed in depth if you're interested.

3 hours ago, 84HuskerLaw said:

 

Theoretically then, the 3-4 tries to control the LOS with one less player leaving more cover and tackling players to get to the ball.  

 

 

Fundamentally, this is incorrect.  As you went on to say, less directly than this, but the 3-4 is the 5-2.  I've heard Todd Bowles for example say the reason he prefers the 3-4 is because it gives him an extra player to control the LOS. 

The difference isn't the defense, it's how the defense aligns to the modern day offenses.  Vs 21 personnel for example, the 3-4 is the 5-2.

The real difference is between 1-gap and 2-gap & some teams employ a mixed front.   The 3-4 1-gap has become more & more popular.  Again, those coordinators prefer it because it plays like a 4-3 in terms of penetration, but gives you an extra guy to control the LOS.  In addition, many, if not most 3-4 defenses today, default to a 4-2 or even 4-1 look vs 5 man lines.  Even Saban & all his disciples.

The fundamental weakness of 2 gap, is play action pass imo, and that's why you see very few teams employing it today.  Chins D has fundamentally been a mix, where the NG plays 2 gap, and nobody else (technically).   Where as Saban base 3-4 plays 1-gap everywhere except the Strong Side DE.

2 minutes ago, Mavric said:

I'm assuming he's counting on getting a waiver and the NCAA being more lenient given everything going on.

 

 

I assume every time a kid leaves a school and claims "mental health", they are counting on the NCAA granting them an immediate waiver.  Nobody wants to touch that or the Justin Fields rational

As talented as the Davis' were, they were playing out of position in this defensive scheme.  Same could be said of Lamar Jackson.  I think NU is getting more of their type of players to execute their scheme defensively. 

Offensively, more play makers, & improved O-line play.  IF there is an extended fall camp to compensate for the loss of spring ball, it helps Frost & Co. integrate Manning, Betts, Brown, & Fleming into the Offense quicker.

I don't think these 2 will be THE breakout 1st year players, but I expect Fleming & Hutmacher to play bigger roles than most anticipate.  I also wouldn't be surprised to see Scott have an Ameer type impact as a Fre.  He carried a mediocre team against elite competition in Central FL.  Put him on one of the better teams & I can't imagine how good he would have looked.

Chins presser might actually be revealing a subtle change in scheme to more of a true 1 gap 3-4 ala Wade Phillips, Todd Bowles, Dave Aranda.  I say that because he referenced NG, DT, & DE as opposed to simply NG & DE's, which is the terminology of that system versus the terminology of what Chinander has run the past 4 years. 

He also discussed the difference between the Mike & Will ILB positions.  Which, there wasn't much difference in what he's run, but is in the 3-4 1 gap.  Something to keep an eye on or perhaps Chins has always used same terminology w/different alignment & I've never noticed?

Daniels has been on the national radar a while.  He was the best player on the best youth team in the nation & snapped off a long TD vs. Bishop Gorman as a Fre while playing behind Cook II.  Impressive the inroads TFish has made down there.  Never thought I'd see the day kids from Miami Central & Northwestern were even sniffing around NU.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxoA1h98m4o

I don't know Leary, but I've seen him play since he was in 6th grade.  He played one age group up from the kids I coached.  Always been a play maker and had a monster game against St. Thomas Aquinas in the 7A state championship game last season.  I recall a STA player saying after the game nobody had torched them like that other than DeMarkus Bowman, the 2020 5* RB.

He attends my alma mater, word is he wants to go to UF, but they seem focused on building a b-ball team in the WR room, so he's open, & intrigued by NU.

I'm interested to see what scheme Bo runs at LSU.  He ran a different scheme there than he did either stint at NU, he's inheriting a unit that's been running 3-4 one gap, & he's been in the minor leagues away from play calling for a while.  Other than that, I can be as petty as him, I hope he's terrible.

All we know for sure is that prior to Joe Brady moving to Carolina, Joseph was a redundant position coach working in the shadow of the hottest assistant in CF.  That seems like a lot

13 minutes ago, Throw Dem Bones said:

I mean this is obvious.... we wanted to bring on Micky Joseph and/ or Helfrich to be an analyst/ assistant coach. Neither wanted that limited of a role. Walters saw the writing on the wall and decided its best to move on as well. Now we can offer either of the above an OC job with a higher salary.

 

Makes total sense

Its also certainly plausible Walters having 1 foot out the door could have precipitated SF looking for his replacement & his replacement was found before he found the job???

A year is a lifetime for the OL unit.  It's unquestionably a strength to have that entire unit back even though they were sub-par this season, & there's promise behind them to infuse.  It's not all rosy, but I think the pathetic O-Line play we've seen for the better part of 2 seasons will start trending in the correct direction with that experience returning, and the talent developing behind them. 

At the risk of sounding like a pompous...

AM is not making good reads & I could give endless examples all season in run and pass game.  But, if you watch the opening play of the game, NU is in an empty set w/3 to the wide side. 

OSU is covering those 3 with 2 & inside leverage from OLB, & FS in deep middle.  This is clearly cover 3, but more importantly NU has OSU out-numbered/out-leveraged to the wide side.  This is the side the field a QB should identify pre-snap to target post-snap. 

Mo motions from the #1 WR (closest to sideline) to #3 (closest to LT) and NU run a concept commonly known as "7 Ins" to that side of the field.  Its a variation of the smash concept, #3 runs a 7 or corner route, #2 & #1 run 5 yards Ins.  It's a Hi-Low concept designed to read the CB.  If he bits on the #1 WR, you throw the corner, if he stays disciplined (deep) in C3, you throw the In to #1. 

And, post-snap, the play was there.  Mo fly's off the line & runs a corner, the CB drops, & it should have been an easy pitch and catch to #1 WR on the 5 yard In w/space to potentially make a play after the catch. 

Instead, its obvious AM predetermined pre-snap he was taking the route combo to the right into the boundary.  It was covered post-snap & he ran. 

Not the end of the world, but I think it's an easy example to demonstrate that he's not reading the defense the way he needs to for Frost's offense to run effectively.  I mean, in this example, he's not even choosing the correct side of the field to read, and I don't think you need a deep understanding of football to freeze this play pre-snap and recognize the post-snap advantage is to the left.

I can't recall NU ever pulling a player out of Miami Central.  I can't recall even garnering the attention of a Central player in the past. 

21 minutes ago, 30-50 Feral Hogs said:

 

Is it safe to tell us how he received that nickname?

I only coached those kids 1 year & they all had the craziest nicknames.  All I know is that it had something to do w/him being fast & running track.  He was 6'1 in 8th grade, he's a shade under 6'3 now, and the kid has a nasty streak in a good way.  He texted me about the offer and said it was his 1st.  Interesting, because when I posted about Lynum, I almost mentioned that this could help get them in with a very taleted trio of So's to be whom I coached and knew well.  Nice to see Fisher is all over that.

FYI, Travis Fisher has offered Lynum's 2022 teammate Markieth Williams, aka Poke Smoker.  This kid I know.  Coached him 2 years ago in Pop Warner, where he lead us to Nationals (meaning we beat a MIami team) before missing weight.  Right now he's playing FS & WR.  IMO, he's a better WR prospect, but I don't think anybody will see that unless Evans gets a QB who can throw the ball.