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8 minutes ago, WyoHusker56 said:

To be fair, those 4 losses are OSU twice a good Iowa team we barely lost to and the debacle at CU this year. It feels like we should be better than 8-4 considering the competition, but really 10-2 or 9-3 is the best case for that 12 game stretch.

So by your math, we’ve beaten the bad teams we should, lost to every team with a pulse and that’s where we are. 

We are paying too much for those kind of results. And talking too much. 

3 minutes ago, Husker in WI said:

 

We do have a history of handing out more extra chances than guys deserve, mostly from Osborne but obviously since then as well. Some people love that, some people think it's just an excuse to try and keep talented guys. We'll see how the charges end up (really don't want to open that back up), I just don't think a half-game suspension issue is the straw that breaks the camels back here. 

The “half game suspension” has a nebulous meaning. It could be a felony, it could be skipping a weight session. The fun is guessing!

1 minute ago, Husker in WI said:

 

What exactly are our losses here? The practice reps he's getting? Honestly we need backs to take them.

 

Leaving the ongoing legal matters aside, the recent suspension doesn't feel like the kind of thing you cut a guy for, whatever it was. I understand the argument that a guy is better off on a team has its limits, but if the staff felt he couldn't grow past the issues with support he'd already be gone. We have no idea what the recent issue was, other than it was only worth a half game suspension. Nate Gerry was suspended more. 

Nate Gerry betrayed his team. He should have been. 

I mean Mo has felony charges, a weed pinch and now an undisclosed infraction in one season. The safe bet is he screws up again. 

9 minutes ago, UniversalMartin said:

I honestly think at the end of the day Jurgens is going to be All Conf...dude has a serious case of the yips right now but that will pass........eventually

He may, but it will be at guard. The guy is making mistakes that high school centers don’t make and it’s becoming unfair to him he’s even being asked to do it 

12 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

This kid better get his head on straight if he's going to be a major factor moving the program forward.

Or we can do what should have been done and cut our losses because we have a trend forming 

13 minutes ago, GBRFAN said:

 

I hear you - most solid programs have 4 or 5 starters and 3+ 2nd string that are Jr/Sr - NU has zero starters that are SR and possibly 0 2nd stringers. 

 

That doesn't work in the BIG - MR is to blame and SF is fixing it but we are 2 years away from being close in the trenches

If that’s true, fine but the hubris coming from the staff about how jurgens is the next rimington needs to be turned down by at least half. 

16 minutes ago, GBRFAN said:

 

We should have an upperclassman playing at every position on the line so that takes care of the high snaps and if you don't think that AM regression has to do with a line that has been mostly dominated through 6 games then i don't know what to tell you.

With the exception of our center, which I agree shouldn’t see the field. Our starting line has people in the program for three years 

8 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

I disagree. He can’t play 1 half in college without getting getting suspended for the other half. 

Fixed

15 minutes ago, grandpasknee said:

I was going to make a snarky comeback, but then I saw it was you, and I generally respect your comments.  So I'll just pout quietly.  Happy!?  Heh heh.  To my credit, even the vaunted, hallowed Steve Sipple made the same 8-4 point today on the radio.  So I'm pretty much at the top of the commentary world I guess.  Now...off to my corner.

Sipple saying it proves something differently than what you think it proves 

Let's look at who we've beaten during this hot streak.

'18 Minnesota - finished 7-6
'18 Bethune Cookman - FCS team that finished 7-5
'18 Illinois - finished 4-8
'18 Michigan State - finished 7-6
'19 South Alabama - currently 1-5
'19 Northern Illinois - currently 1-4
'19 Illinois - currently 2-3
'19 Northwestern - currently 1-4

Combined records of the last 8 victims of Nebraska football: 30-41. Baby steps and all but that’s not exactly a squad of juggernauts 

I accept your apology and look forward to the warning being removed 

4 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

Says he's been cautioned about something.

Sees no warnings in his history.

 

I look forward to this being removed by you. 

13 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

So basically I'm doing the same that that you do but from the other side of the coin.  But you apparently don't like that.

 

 

Did anyone tweet about it?  If so perhaps I missed it.  But please keep going down this rabbit hole.

I agree. I’m talking about what I see from this team and where they are. 

I wouldnt say i dislike what you say, but I would say you do so with an amount of snark I’ve been cautioned about and frankly I think it’s a little unfair 

16 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

Would you say you are often painting things as being worse than they actually are?

I suppose it all depends on your perception on how things actually are. Some would agree with me, some, including you, wouldn’t.  

Did you make a post how we weren’t shut out when Riley got obliterated by Ohio st in 2016?  It was still a neat stat. 

2 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

I did.  I thought it was an interesting historical footnote.  And I thought I'd throw in a little old school Keith Olberman for the few that might remember it and get a smile out of it.

 

You're inventing the part where I was trying to sell it as some sort of silver lining.

You thought it was an interesting historical footnote after an utter embarrassment of a game. 

Maybe lets just agree it was incredibly convenient. And that Martinez is better than Vedral. 

7 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

Someone has to be the yin to your yang.

 

 

Now you're inventing things to blame on me.

 

 

My post that you quoted above also applies to this statement.

You didn’t make this thread?

20 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

Look at these things that confirm what I'm saying!!!

 

Ignore all those other things that point the other direction!!!

I mean, you spend a lot of time on here digging up tweets and obscure stats to justify that things maybe aren’t as bad as they seem. 

You posted a tweet about how Nebraska scoring against Ohio st kept a “not been shutout” streak alive. As if that’s any kind of silver lining. What if someone did that about Callahan after the 04 beatings in Oklahoma and Lubbock?

I agree with you that it’s madness people think Vedral is somehow better than Martinez but to taunt another persons opinions on here does nothing to further discussion, of which there are tons we can talk about here. Good and bad. 

2 hours ago, Roundball Shaman said:

Here’s some comments that America heard from the broadcasters about Nebraska during the national TV coverage broadcast of the Northwestern game:

 

“From the Heartland of America”...“From the Land of Corn”...

 

“Lincoln. It’s something special, isn’t it?”...“Took a walk around the campus. It’s magnificent”...

 

“This Nebraska team is just an inch away from being...better”...
    
“I think Scott Frost thinks he’s the modern day version of Tom Osborne”...“Scott Frost is the right man to turn this thing around”...

 

“This game today is the most important to his (Frost) program.”

 

And here are the most poetic comments:

 

“When the leaves begin to turn, the Boys become Men in the Heartland of America”...

 

and then, the game winner:

 

“The Limbo Field Goal! How LOW can you GO!”

11 minutes ago, TheSker said:

I'm not concerned about Martinez alleged "regression".  Frost's track record in developing quarterbacks speaks for itself.

Alleged. 

Does this mean you think he’s improved?  Stayed the same?  Gotten worse but it’s Mike Riley’s fault?  Just trying to get a snapshot on how you feel this is all going. 

2 minutes ago, TheSker said:

Riley sucked.

So you can’t answer then?

It is painfully obvious that hyperbole can run rampant about this football team. You can write off the coaches comparing him to other heisman candidates and media being a glorified propaganda machine, but there were other scouting reports from other teams basically saying Martinez is our guy and that if he got hurt, we’d be in trouble. 

They weren't wrong. 

We know now a few things but we don’t know a lot. We know he’s hurt but we don’t know if the northwestern game added upon stuff that he was already dealing with, because he hasn’t looked right all year. 

We know hes regressed but we we don’t know if it’s due to coaching, injury or just a natural hiccup in maturity. 

And we know we’re probably in trouble. We just don’t know how much but that game next week is on the road, at night, potentially in the snow against an undefeated team and possibly with a backup. This season just got a lot more interesting 

1 hour ago, TheSker said:

Riley sucked.

 

Are you really trying to spin Riley's record in a positive light?.....

 

Frost can win with players he didn't recruit.  He did it in a big way at UCF.  Half a dozen players that Frost didn't recruit at UCF got drafted.

 

Any guesses on how many Riley recruits that Frost is coaching get drafted?

Stating what his record was isn’t spin, but what you’re doing certainly is. 

1 hour ago, TheSker said:

And it couldn't be more accurate.

 

Mike Riley was a godawful recruiter, coach and leader of the Husker football program.

 

Godawful might be a lenient term.

Mike Riley was by no means a success here, but I guess I’d like you to tell me why he’s behind the two biggest problems on this team, Adrian Martinez, his regression and the errant snaps. 

28 minutes ago, krc1995 said:

On Big Red Overreaction, DB stated that Mo is "a different cat"  and he is guy that coaches need to be in constant contact with to make sure he's doing the good things he needs to do.  He mentioned him beig emotionally immature.  He gave some instances of odd behavior-like talking to his helmet. 

 

DB kind of gets on my nerves with his posturing and using weird and redundant academic words to show his superiority, but I think he's got a good perspective on Mo.  It's probably in segment one of the BRO if you want to listen.  

That’s a careful situation. The beginning of the end of Solich happened when it became clear to the team Crouch was being held to looser standards

I don’t the one half suspension has quite the effect Frost thinks it does