Huckleberry Muhammad

Good on the black shirts for not giving up a first down.  Touchdown, instead.

Just now, BIGREDIOWAN said:

At this point we might see Martinez come back in.....

Yes, he throws a much stronger pass to the opponent. 

I don't think of this thread, and its title, as being "off base," but it did strike me as irresponsible when I saw it.  Free speech, yes, but nice meme to pass around the internet?  "Huskers benefit from the coronavirus."  ??

On 1/21/2020 at 12:33 AM, Danimal said:

A question worth asking is do we have the coaching to compensate for Frost putting so much of his attention in the O that he really doesn't know much about the D and ST's?

This.  ^^^^^^^^

16 hours ago, Gorillahawk said:

Kinda like Minnesota did with Fleck, with his Big Ten pedigree or like Wisconsin did with Paul Chryst and all of his Big Ten coaching experience before getting that gig. Or better yet like Penn State did with Franklin because he spent so much time in the Big Ten over his career. 
 

C’mon man, nothing is saying that Frost isn’t worthy of being a Big Ten Coach. If anything at this point in his career he has proven more then those others had. Paul Chryst took over an established program and Franklin took over at Penn State after the previous coach navigated the Joe Pa incident and did so very well. Minnesota is the closest comparison to our program but it took Fleck a few years to get it running and he didn’t have near the attrition issues that Frost has had. I’m not saying Frost will for sure but it usually takes 5 years to truly transform a program. Firing Frost would just pour gas on the program and turn it into a full fledged dumpster fire!

I just don't see it.   I've been around husker football for a long long time, and what we're seeing for the past twenty-odd years is a new culture altogether different and the opposite of what B.D. and T.O. sowed, raked, and cultivated.  It's now like a blighted acreage that once yielded the best of the best.  Many problems yes, each could have been correctable, but new problems began to be layered on top of the old ones instead of rooting out the old ones. 

Simplistic attitudes prevailed while the disease set in.  Frost is just more of the same, and I dare say that was predictable.  Now he's seen as something he is not, just the same as the other coaches were seen.  We should have spent big bux on a proven Big Ten coach, plain and simple.  Mr. Frost might give us a season or three here and there of 8 wins, but it'll mostly be 5,6, and 7 until his contract looks buyable.  I rooted for him.. then I saw the rain later on, the hugely poor decision-making.. so I had to face the reality of watching a boxer with small hands getting his a$$ kicked by lower rated fighters.  I feel badly for him. 

They've been doing the same nit-picky, third rate b.s. to husker football for twenty years.. with steady decline as the result.  It needs to be gutted by a proven Big Ten coaching staff and put forward, plain and simple.

2 hours ago, NUance said:

 

Yeah, I'm curious about that too.  So let's see:  LINK

 

 

Yards per carry:

             Husker D     Husker O     W-L

Frost

2019         4.5                4.9            5-7

2018         5.0                5.4            4-8 

 

Riley

2017         5.7                3.5            4-8

2016         4.5                4.2            9-4 

2015         3.8                4.7            6-7

 

Pelini

2014         4.7                5.3            9-4 

2013         3.8                4.8            9-4 

2012         4.8                5.4          10-4 

2011         4.0                4.6            9-4 

2010         3.9                4.4          10-4  

 

=================================================================  

 

So basically, it took Riley two years to drive flush our O-line/D-line advantage down the toilet, and Frost hasn't been able to reverse the trend as of his second year.  (His first year was a bit better than last season.)

You may have missed that third column.  

I understand the need to get stats improved, of course.  But there is a deep, HUGE problem in the Nebraska football program and tweaking this or that position is NOT going to solve that problem.  The entire thing has to be revamped to Big Ten standards, and Frost/Chinander et al are NOT to this conference's standards.  Fine and even good/great in another conference, we've seen. 

1 hour ago, Jeremy said:

Biggest missed call in a football game that I've ever seen.

What about the two illegal blocks ("clips") in Johnny Rodgers' punt return in the "game of the century" against Oklahoma?  Those non-calls resulted in an erroneous TD.

lmao .. just kidding .. sort of.

1 hour ago, Sker fer life said:

Why does Crouch have his helmet on backwards in that last one ?

 

Oooooooh

Rather famous (in Nebraska) non-call by the official who was looking straight at that face mask grab.

You guys are knowledgeable about each player and their perceived impact on the games.. games that we won and lost.  Having said that I do believe some of this discussion is nitpicking while overlooking the big picture:  Nebraska football has been in decline through several coaching regimes here and dozens of players at each position.  And a couple of interesting Athletic Directors.

Please think about that.  What is wrong is not about how good the QB is or hopes to be.  Or the wide receiver.  Or the next great recruit.  This has been going on for too long to micro-manage our sensibilities by arguing about what could have been if only this or that player were healthy or this or that backup quarterback had seen more action. 

On 3/5/2020 at 10:54 AM, BigRedN said:

Scott seems to disappear and/or miss a key moment where he communicates that he was busy doing something else.  He appears to be overwhelmed and then passes it off on to someone or something. 

 

This.  ^^^

He did come around to clock management at some point last year.  I was surprised he had that particular issue.. but we don't know if perhaps he had problems with an assistant or what.. he did get better.  As to "..miss a key moment," that is my pet peeve about the guy.  He honestly seems overwhelmed.  Will he get over that?  Can he get over that?  Some do and some don't.  And those who don't end up heading back to where ever that was not a problem for them, if they're smart.  I feel that he is in over his head irrespective of his resume. 

2 hours ago, Nebfanatic said:

National publications have put us in the top 25 again this year. The national media shows plenty of interest in our program already 

We've noticed that off and on for 21 years now.  Fan and media expectations... then reality.  Please. 

16 hours ago, That.1.Dude said:

Imagine if all those players Frost had to kick off from attrition of his first class and the "Mike Riley guys" who were uncommitted got paid to ruin our program and bring us the worse gotd*mn seasons of our lives in regards to Nebraska football in over 60+ d*mn years. 

 

F*ck that. 

*whew*

Well.. could be more of that (program trashed).   But here at Nebraska even a slight upswing in wins will be appreciated.  Thing is, national news media would show little to no interest until Nebraska football is "back."  Then the agents for these players will have something to chew on. 

As long as they tweak it so abuses are minimized and so that the pay is not affected by performance, as in point shaving, I'm for it. 

But... watch out what you wish for. 

55 minutes ago, WyoHusker56 said:

 

If being a Freshmen All American is not playing very well in his two years, than I just give up.

Then give up, because his performance and losses speak for themselves.  All American is not what it used to be, and even in the old days was an exercise in popularity and guessing games as opposed to on-field performance as much as it should have been.  In Nebraska's case a true great captain of the offense out there would never do the things Martinez has done to lose games.  He's good at times but not a great quarterback, and he's being coached by a man who exhibits The Peter Principle;  Frost belongs in the AAC where he can excel. 

On 3/4/2020 at 11:54 AM, 84HuskerLaw said:

If Frost feels the heat of his job performance going into 2020 then he really has to have a real honest QB competition.  He needs to field the best possible team this fall. 

I've noticed that Frost puts out a coach-speak meme about not being affected by criticism or praise.  He urges his team to be the same.  His words have  been so strong on that matter that it makes me think that perhaps he is being sincere in that regard.  It's just that he's nowhere near the end of his contract, and also that Moos seems to be all in even after the -15 two season record.  A 6 win season this year would look good to everyone but Frost, and he'll continue on to 7 or 8 next year, if he can produce that.  And we don't even know that at this point.

40 minutes ago, gossamorharpy said:

You didn’t really answer my question.

 

if the times are so different, why is Iowa able to do this with less advantageous resources? Same for Wisconsin?

 

you make it sound like we’re in some perpetual vortex preventing any possibility of consistent success yet this barrier doesn’t exist for other schools without explanation 

You're answering your own question if you fancy Iowa and Wisconsin as formidable as Nebraska was during the Mr. D and Dr. O days (and for that length of time).

31 minutes ago, gossamorharpy said:

Curious, why are you so adamant 9 win seasons aren’t sustainable? While a few blips, there’s a school a couple 100 miles to the east in Iowa that manages this with less talent, ditto for Wisconsin.

 

only difference they have is a great coach who has a system in place and fosters continuity. Why is it doable at those schools but not here when most would agree we’ve got advantages over both of these schools to succeed?

 

Ain't gonna happen.  Those years it was happening were different times, not just in football, but in what could be called something like, "Nebraska special uniqueness," for want of a better phrase.  That's watered down now to the point of Scott Frost basically representing a reminder of the football portion of it, but that's all.  He wants so badly to resurrect it, we can see that.  My heart goes out to him.

On 1/14/2020 at 9:32 AM, Thurston from Pender said:

1. The speed lives down South. It is cold in Nebraska. Lots of players make their decision based on that. 

 

2. Evaluation of recruits is an inexact science. How many top recruits have bombed out in college?

 

3. Chemistry between the coach and the player is very subjective. 

 

4. Nebraska has never been relevant on the national stage in the lifetime of the recruits. It's like going to Gopher stadium and seeing all the national titles for Minnesota and the first thought is, "Minnesota was a football champion?"

 

5. To have a championship football team, you need at least one excellent player and about 5 really good ones. No weak sisters. And must have good special teams with a consistent kicker. 

 

6. Lack of a diverse female student body to date. 

 

7. Lincoln is, face it, boring. The only thing to do is drink and not supposed to do that until 21. Weak music scene. 

 

8. The competition is much stiffer than back in Dr. Tom's day. Now it is Bama, Sooners, LSU, Clemson, Ohio State, Oregon, Notre Dame and others trying to get back like us: Texas, Michigan, FL, FSU, Miami and others. 

 

9. State has only 1.8m people. Not a lot of job prospects here after graduation. 

 

10. Program has been cursed since Steve P.  and the fans refuse to perform the Ritual Exorcism to cleanse Husker Nation and rid it of the demons of the failed coaches of the past. 

L.M.A.O. at number 6. 

Number 4 is right on.

So is 7.

Number 10 says part of it, should have mentioned 10-3 Solich's last season, though. 

All that, and I still come away not seeing much in the way of national relevance, and of course Big Ten relevance, for a sustained time at all.  We'll have a few good years here and there, but no more long term 9+ wins per seasons, for those numbered reasons and several more, not the least of which is times have changed.

1 hour ago, JJ Husker said:

 In my mind, there 3 basic types of gun violence and two of them have shown increases with the mass shootings obviously standing out.

I grieve over those, as we see students and other innocents scatter in fear of some twisted up person.  What wrecks my efforts to focus on that as the major violence with guns problem in our country, though, are the numbers:  Thousands are dying and being severely injured in our mostly African American inner cities, by the dozens every single day.  Yes, we can't ignore those mostly white grinning freaks with assault rifles firing at our children and concert goers, etc.   We probably need to find out what they have in common as to many things other than mostly being white males.  Perhaps they've felt left out, bullied, etc.  I don't know.  But there's a holocaust going on in East St. Louis, Chicago, Detroit, and Baltimore.  Sometimes it's 40 or 50 people shot on one weekend. 

None of it can be ignored by thinking and caring people, but all of it seems to be ignored by the gun industry;  they're into sales.  Can we go to them for help?  Hell no, they begin the "mental illness" mantra instantly.  We can't do analogies about drugs being controlled, because they then just turn the conversation to people like me and you:  law abiding citizens who should not be "punished" by new gun laws.

My early life and work has carried me to areas of high crime, most of those crimes being gun violence.  I've known quite well many offenders.  I still visit two of them in state pens here in the midwest.   Trying to count all that I have known who have used guns illegally it looks to be about 78 or 79 over a period of the fifty some years of my 74 years being alive. 

I carry a gun everywhere I go that is legal to do so.  No.  Not because I fear those people.  The reasons I carry have a lot less to do with those people than with the ordinary people who drink and lose it, smoke and lose it, see a tailgater in their mirror and lose it, etc ad infinitum.  I'm a calm person by nature, and even more calm when I carry as I adhere to principles brought out in my MP military training and much more recently in my Concealed Carry Permit class here in Nebraska.  I, like almost all responsible gun carriers, react kindly to perceived slights or traffic potential hassles;  it would take a true life and death situation by another person for me to even think of my gun out there. 

"Mental illness" is a HUGE net that covers almost every human on Earth at some point in their lives, and some for most of their lives.  It's not a perfect indicator of who should have access to firearms (or sharp objects, or hammers, or eye drops).  Background checks help a bit with those who have already drawn attention to themselves by committing domestic violence or other violet crimes.  Those checks can fail, of course, due to overlload and time requirements on the FBI and other involved agencies. 

Is there any course of action that could stem gun violence in the U.S.?  In some countries it's about disallowing firearms to various degrees, some even not allowed at all.  And some countries with little to no restrictions have very low gun crime, such as some Scandinavian countries.  For us it has to be education.  I feel that the NRA has it right when it comes to that.  I part company with them, though, on their scorched Earth approach to fending off all gun laws, that's just crazy.  We obviously need gun laws.  But we have to be clever. 

I  think it's very much about culture and how the country was born.  Here in the U.S. it was about violent revolution, and several violent domestic wars over the past two and a half centuries (think it has been just the Revolutionary War and then the Civil War?   Nope:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_the_United_States).Guns are a big part of what shaped us and it has been often and it has been engrained in our being as Americans. 

I like the approach of permitted concealed carry, with classes, but I feel those classes should be longer and with more teaching on the responsibilities and mindset of a gun carrier.  I also think that those same classes should be required for the purchase of guns, not just for carry. 

On 12/26/2019 at 7:03 PM, JJ Husker said:

If there's anything worse than the flat earthers it's those darned decade deniers.

The flat earthers are from the past, in mind, as are other "this is what I experience" thinkers.  As are the ones who can't wrap their mind around the simple fact that decades begin with a 1 and end with a 0. 

2 hours ago, Stumpy1 said:

Makes me laugh that people are going to chalk up Purdue as a win because they hired Diaco, especially after a season where Purdue had to play a 3rd string walk-on QB and he beat us.  

Chinander beat us. 

40 minutes ago, lo country said:

What can I say.

,,

I don't see any of that.  Fedora Linux.  Firefox.