Huckleberry Muhammad

10 minutes ago, huskered17 said:

 

Tom had the same doubters after a couple of season's, and for good reason I guess. Did take over a pretty good program, and was given time to keep it rolling. 

Frost walked into a S!^t storm, and a very bad team. Now he is going to need more time than T O ever did. Three years from now if they are still winning 4-5 games, then yeah your assessment of Frost was right. I think you will be proven wrong, and if so, it's a win win for all of us. 

 

GBR!!!

I remember the calling for his head thing, and the Colorado thing, with T.O.  It's one of those retrospect things that seems strange and silly now, and a lot of other things.  He needed time.  Are we favorably comparing Scott Frost to Tom Osborne?  I'm not.  Tom was not limited in his abilities, while Scott seems to be.  Two vastly different men.  Two vastly different minds.  We are not short siting Frost when we see his limitations, as some were back in the 70s about Dr. Tom.

17 minutes ago, TheSker said:

You still haven't said what year Frost gets his $20+ million buyout.

That's because I'm responding to real posts, rather than snarky, childishness. 

4 minutes ago, TheSker said:

Mike Riley lost to Iowa by 42 points.

 

Scott Frost has lost to them by 3.

 

That's not faith, it's math.

Riley had his share of one point LOSSES. 

Call me old fashioned, but I like wins.  No matter the score.  Just as much as Iowa fans liked the three point WINS over Nebraska.

3 minutes ago, NM11046 said:

This is interesting to me - what is it that you expect them to say in reaction?  Do you ever take it up past the local management?  What is the end goal for you in bringing this up?  Have you ever decided to not go into an establishment because they make you and other patrons disarm?

 

(no snideness intended with the list of q's above, just curious on the thought behind it)

At an older Quick Stop gas station/convenience place on South Street in Lincoln (and two shops in Omaha) the response was to ignore the sign (in different words).  One lady said it was "about insurance."  The guy running the place in Omaha said "thanks for having my back, I'll take it down after talking to other employees."  

9 minutes ago, QMany said:

 

Some want more restrictions, like enrolling in a well regulated Militia. 

I part company with the NRA and it's strange interpretation of the 2nd amendment.  I think that the majority of gun owners are fine with it.  But that may be another thread.  I'm posting an honest query about people's thoughts about the Nebraska concealed carry restrictions.

1 hour ago, funhusker said:

Are you disappointed it hasn't?

Now that's just weird. 

1 hour ago, funhusker said:

My pov: If a person doesn't feel comfortable going shopping for groceries without a gun, it makes me very uncomfortable to see them shopping for groceries with a gun.

 

Thanks for being responsible though.

I don't feel any more "uncomfortable" about not having a gun on me than I would feel not having a fire extinguisher in the house, car, and garage;  it's about the very rare possibility of an emergency.  

Usually, at this point, the discussion turns to various irresponsible gun carriers and the statistics they cause.  I'm asking gun owners/carriers how they feel about the forbidden places.  Some states are whittling their lists down, lately to allow for carry in churches and by trained staff in schools. 

53 minutes ago, TheSker said:

So since Moos is nervous and Frost can only coach in the AAC, when are you expecting their perspective buyouts to occur?

Speculating on the future of Scott Frost and Moos's faith in him has to turn into a conversation about more than one thing:

- How far the Husker football program has declined;  pretty much down to irrelevancy from a once dominant, perennially competitive team.  That could have happened for only a few years, or for only one or two class cycles.. but:

- For how long the Husker football program has declined;  some cite all the way back to T.O.'s retirement.  Some to Solich's or even Pelini's departure.   But pretty much steadily down from either of those road marks in Husker history.

- The teams declining stats from season one of Frost's tenure to this past season:  O, D, and Special Teams.

- Whether or not a perception comes along in the minds of The Deciders that Scott Frost is up against something he can't handle, and that has to be defined as to his abilities/lack thereof in a major conference, the Big Ten in particular, of course.  It takes a lot to dislodge faith in anything, and if those Deciders are still in the midst of faith in Scott Frost, then how many losses over how many years will it take to replace that faith with the horrid realization that $35 million can't buy Husker success at all, let alone the afore mentioned perennial success of the 30 year Husker Golden Era?

My answer to all of that is that I'm trying to let Moos's good words about the Husker football future displace a lingering feeling that our popular Golden Boy is not up to it.  Recruiting gets mentioned a lot, and of course it takes many cycles of good, solid recruiting (including walkons here at Nebraska) and a great coach who knows how to run them to create a monster program.  That's Moos's spiel.  I don't think it's going to happen with this guy Frost.

Just now, TheSker said:

Methinks you overthink.

New territory for you, eh?   Thinking. 

Nebraska allows for concealed carry, with a permit that is issued by the Nebraska State Patrol after a fee and FBI background check are satisfied, and also after the applicant can prove he or she has undergone a firearm training session by a NSP certified instructor.  Many (most) other states have such provisions in place by law.

I've been carrying for decades, and have lived in several states along the way.  To me it's just a part of getting dressed.  I've never been in law enforcement, but a gun has always been with me and I've always been very mindful of local laws and of course safety and common sense.  For example, here in Nebraska it is stated clearly that sporting events (and a lot of other places) are forbidden for concealed carry;  no guns allowed.  So, I don't carry in those places.  It's a fairly long list, including churches, schools, political gatherings, government buildings including post offices, etc.

I obey all restrictions, including if I see a "no guns allowed" sign on a retail door;  I'll return to my car and unload and place the weapon in a special lockable vault I have cabled to the frame of  the vehicle, then go into the place and ask for the manager.  I then inform the manager that I am law abiding and am unarmed, unlike criminals who will see their sign on the door as assurance that no body in there is capable of defending the place.  I've gotten varied reactions to this;  but mostly it's "that's company policy, I can't do anything about it."

How do you feel about those restrictions?  Some want that list pared down or even eliminated. 

22 minutes ago, TheSker said:

The people who pay Moos are on the same page he is.

That would be the hope.

But, I think not as fully as we'd like to think. 

Wrt Moos, the saying, "Methinks he doth protest too much" says something here, I think.  He overdoes it on accolades for "the future," etc.

4 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

So, you're proclaiming right now that Frost will never have an undefeated season in the Big 10.

 

Hmmm.....ok.

lmao at "proclaiming."   Suggesting feels more like what I'm thinking.  Pretty close to believing he will never have an undefeated season in the Big 10.. yeah.  I just think he's real good in places like UCF or maybe he could follow Solich at Ohio and do pretty well.

I'm having problems with formatting.. didn't mean to have two quotes..

1 hour ago, N is for nowledge said:

Again, he is in yr 4 of his HC career and will develop.  I do think had Solich remained the wheels wouldn’t have completely come off but the dominance was over.  For all those that think different...frank is coaching in the Mac with no better offers after being let go.  Bo is coaching an fcs school and barely holding on to that.  I don’t know what moos said that leads you to believe he’s moved the goal posts long term.  I think he’s asked for patience as the rebuild takes time....again fixing recruiting mismanagement that’s existed for well over a decade as well as development and culture issues.  

Except for the "..(Frost) will develop," I am in agreement with the rest of that post.  As to the "I don’t know what moos said that leads you to believe he’s moved the goal posts long term" it's just my take on the man's words.  I mentioned somewhere else that lately (after all these losses, many which really honestly should/could have been wins) I get the feeling that Moos is very nervous about the way things are transpiring and that he's PR managing that nervousness with grandiose remarks about the future.. I sometimes feel he's basically talking to the people who pay him, along with us, of course. 

3 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

1 hour ago, Huskerzoo said:

 

And an undefeated season. 

In the AAC.  Too bad it wasn't in the ACC.  Or SEC.  Or even the Big 12.   Not gonna happen in the Big 10, which I'd love to be wrong about.

10 hours ago, N is for nowledge said:

Frost is in yr 4 of his HC career.  He had to rebuild depth that had been mismanaged for the better part of a decade.  He is still evolving as a play caller and game manager.  The good part is he has all the support and rope he needs imo.

Our current AD, the same man who is supporting Frost big time and over the long haul, also feels that Solich was part of a three man legacy that should have continued ad infinitum.  I find it hard to see Moos's expressed thoughts as iron clad wisdom.  He does have me feeling a bit differently now about just what Frost is challenged with and what he wants to accomplish, but that feeling is also laced with another feeling:  that Scott Frost is limited and he was fine in assistant jobs and a HC job in a cushy conference. 

6 hours ago, Mavric said:

 

10 is a pretty weird number for a playoff.  And I would contend it would often be at odds with my "no more than two per conference" criteria.  Both the B1G and SEC have three Top 10 teams right now.  I contend that if you're not in the top two of your conference, you lost your shot in the regular season.

Counting teams in last year's March Madness brackets... Just kidding! 

1 hour ago, Mavric said:

 

Yes, they would be out of the playoff picture.  But they four quarter-final losers would be slotted to go to two of the non-semifinal New Year's Six games.  That way the rest of the bowl selection process could continue on without having to wait for the results of the quarter-final games.

Gotcha.  Sounds like a formidable set up.  It compresses things a bit for so many teams in the picture, and that's a good thing.  It also allows for major bowl game interest.  It'd take some lobbying by people who can make a revenue presentation tied in with watchability and all that. 

I admit to liking the top ten thing because it could add even more energy by the schools to get in the top ten being seen as "get in the playoffs."  I'm wondering if your schema could be reworked for ten teams (five first games) without adding weeks to the playoffs.

16 hours ago, Mavric said:

 

I've been an 8-team guy for a long time.  Basically goes like this:

• Eight team playoff
• Five Power 5 Conference Champions (provided they are in the Top 12 of the final standings)
• Highest-rated Group of Five Champion auto-qualifies if they are in the Top 12
• Remaining teams chosen by committee
• No more than two per conference

Now that the field is set, how does the playoff itself actually work and how does it mesh with the other bowls?

• Those eight teams are locked into New Year's Six bowls on a rotating basis (as they do now with four)
• Remaining bowl assignments can proceed as they currently do
• Higher-seeded teams host the quarter final game two weeks after CCG weekend
• The four teams that lose in the quarter finals will be matched up in two pre-determined New Year's Six bowl games (rotating)
• The four teams that win in the quarter finals will move on to two other New Year's Six games as the semi-finals (rotating, as they do now)
• Championship game one week later (as it is now)

Bowl structure preserved.  Conference championships matter.  Group of Five teams have a chance.  Doesn't extend the season (time-wise).  Bowl season begins and ends with a bang.

Well thought out.  But I'm trying to wrap my mind around:

"The four teams that lose in the quarter finals will be matched up in two pre-determined New Year's Six bowl games (rotating)."

Losing in the quarters exits them from the playoffs, right?  Or am I misreading it as qualifying them for a game down the road against another quarter loser for another chance at a winner?  

I've always thought that the top ten in the AP poll should be in a playoff schema that would end with the championship being played in January at the Orange or Cotton or Rose, etc.  Way before this whole playoff thing came along I have felt that a playoff was necessary.  They've been doing it in the other tier now for a while;  seems to be working at that level. 

4 hours ago, Mavric said:

Not a great trend overall.  But 2017 ... woof.

 

 

So those of us who are at all the home games and some of the road games are contributing to the trend? 

Inquiring minds need to know. 

2 hours ago, Nebfanatic said:

We are trying to take a healthier approach this time..

I admit to just now coming around to seeing it this way ("it" being hiring new coaches to "right the ship" practically instantly).   The "program rebuilding" thing that Moos harps on is taking over my sensibilities gradually. 

We all want wins.. every game we want that win.  But what Nebraska is wanting most of all is something in addition to that.  Something we were used to and have the resources to reclaim:  Husker football being Husker football, and all the meaning that entails.  That will take time.

42 minutes ago, DrinkinwitTerrellFarley said:

If it doesn't work he will ride off into the sunset an independently wealthy man who hired the man the fans wanted.  

And "saved the sellout streak," as he said. 

But, interestingly, in a prolonged interview he kept going back to the time needed and the emphasis on "building the program," which he explained is much different than what the new coach at Ohio State (for example) had to do because that football program had not been wrecked by bad hires after the legacy coaches (in our case Bob, Tom, and yes, Frank) left.  Amazing point. 

So.. Moos's ride into the sunset, no matter his age at the time,  might be seen as regretful by Husker fans, if he's right about all this.

On 12/6/2019 at 8:38 AM, Redux said:

 

Draft picks mean squat as far as chemistry and buy in go.  If a unit gels it doesn't matter.  That UCF unit gelled in clutch situations.  Frost's Husker squads have not. 

Yep.  Recruits respond to team mission, not much to team stated mission.  They feel it and they're together.. very few words.. lots of fire.

1 hour ago, SFW said:

If Frost wants more time...no more losing seasons.  
 

Very easy...win games you should.

 

Stop blaming and making excuses.

 

GBR!!

Moos is with him and saying "..three, four, or five seasons of recruiting should get the program back to where it should be," etc.  

Sometimes he sounds to me like he's talking to his boss, the one who signs his paychecks.