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2 hours ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

College football doesn't need to become more like the nofunleague.  CFB needs a return to local individuality.  And not all universities are the same.  For some football is not a valued priority and they probably should sit it out, without telling others how to conduct their affairs. 

 

 

It could be very interesting.  For example does "Spring" mean a kickoff on February 1st or May 1st?

Not a fan of people requiring others to think and act just like them or be labeled a “horrible person” . What happened to independent thought and expression? I was hoping we got past that after people criticizing the Middle East interventions (And in turn criticized for being non patriotic)  were kinda proved right in my eyes anyways. 
 

If your league and area doesn’t want to play- go for it. Same if you want to play, your circumstances, your decision. 

Just don’t require me to pay for your choices if they were bad ones, no matter what they were. 

1 hour ago, Mavric said:

 

Warren is in over his head. Unprofessional, unprepared and weak. He’s still way smarter than me , but I’m not the big 10 commish lol 

Listened to kfab this am and the outdoors guy Greg Wagner? was on talking about the huge increases in hunting and fishing permits being bought.

makes sense, 

I’m going to be watching and rooting for kstate 

less than 2 hours drive from Lincoln and home to an overachieving program with loyal fans. Snyder did a miraculous job and I hope they can continue to have some reasonable success now that he’s gone.  It blows me away how they would regularly beat teams with much better players and way more money. 

 No worries, thought it was Amazing almost perfect direct  correlation between who is playing football and who isn’t. If it needs to be  nixed, So be it.

My thought process is it seems like the leadership of the conference and the political leanings of the leagues geographic footprint seems to be a factor in who is playing and who is not playing. The map was kind of compelling. 
 

The university presidents seem to be mirroring perfectly the political leanings of their respective states. One type of majority in a state consistently doesn’t want to play and the other side when in a majority in a state consistently wants to play. Interesting stuff. 
 

Utah not surprisingly is the outlier in the pac

nebraska and Indians are the outliers in the Big10 (Nebraska not really because we voted to play) .  With Iowa, Michigan, Iowa and Wisconsin on the fence. 
 

southeast, big 12 and acc are all perfectly aligned across the board, with just Virginia and Boston college as an outlier 

36 minutes ago, luvthecorn said:

Uhhh.... I think he told you exactly who he thought was responsible and your response actually answers your own question. Re-read his post and put some thought into what you've read. He's taking the position that our leaders, political and otherwise, and the general public, all have responsibility for the season being canceled. It's not Kevin Warren's fault that businesses prematurely reopened, public gatherings prematurely resumed, and people refused to wear face masks and appropriately socially distance. Warren is just doing his best to clean up the mess while relying on medical and educational professionals -- the exact people he should be relying upon. The fact that you can't watch your favorite team play football every Saturday is small potatoes compared to the significant health concerns and uncertain long-term impact of the virus.

 There are 3 p5 conferences still scheduled to play a fall season this year. Why can they play but we can’t? Blame the Chinese? The government? Mean non maskers? Protesters/ looters? 
 

What can Be done right now that is in Someone’s  power to get football being played this fall? Without having to convince people that the data clearly shows the risk to healthy college age kids is nearly nonexistent and for them less dangerous than the flu. 
 

The answer comes partly from thought leadership, planning and communication. Mr Warren hasn’t shown it. Part may also go  to political leanings in different areas. A map of red and blue states pretty much correlates to who is playing football this season and who isn’t- the tie states are in heavy red.

In some parts of the country football is important, in others it isn’t so much. 

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/president

How many players other than maybe jaimes have the resume to be drafted without playing this season?  Which Nebraska seniors get drafted with no season? 

The number of seniors who don’t get a lot of playing time and drop is very very small. Most drop before senior year.

Weve seen in the past with solich, pelini and Riley what one poor recruiting class can do to a team in a 4 year stretch. Just imagine what a 5-7 player recruiting class would do to a team in the middle of a Major rebuild like nebraska? Year 1 was patched together. Year 2-3 got better, but you can’t build a solid team in college football with 50 kids and 2 recruiting classes. 

We only have 85 scholarships. How do we even add anyone this season and stay under 85 If all the players are given another year?

Alabama and Clemson aren’t going to agree to let Ohio state have 105 kids on scholarship? Adding one year to all the players eligibility directly impacts the team and roster numbers  for the immediate following 4 years. Only if zero players are added in a recruiting cycle are you able to stay under 85. And if it somehow goes to 105, then per title ix you have to add more money losing women’s sports teams. 

If we can’t add anyone this year we won’t have a senior class one season and gap in upper class men another. these are 18 year old kids who will be told by sec and big 12 recruiters that viruses will come again. Do you want to play in a conference that plays through it or shuts down? 99 percent of 18 year old kids will say play thorough it. Perception and reality on this one are the same. 

1 hour ago, suh_fan93 said:

Still feel all the negativity towards Warren is ridiculous and people who are guilty of doing so likely have zero idea of what is truly going on especially when it comes to trying push forward with a major college sport amidst an ongoing deadly global pandemic.  If anything be pissed at all of the mask deniers but also the so called people in charge who also basically denied it for far too long and still take it too lightly all the while with (still) absolutely no plan in place.  America is absolutely paying the price.  Add college football to the list of casualties as far as luxuries that is.

 

I want normalcy too but it wasn't Warren who 'botched' things.  You need to look higher or imo lower truth be told.  If we can begin to get a handle on the pandemic then we can see about things like will the Huskers play or not.  No one has to agree obv but this entire scenario goes far beyond just 'Kevin Warren'.

If Kevin Warren wasn’t responsible for the big10 not having their protocols and processes in place To play this fall should there be a season, whose responsibility was it? Who other than Kevin was supposed to get that done in the last 5 months? Should that have been the Omaha world herald? University of Iowa? Me? My mom? Kevin’s dog? His secretary? The cafeteria bus boy? Who is supposed to do that?? Who can we pin it on? 

Who is responsible for laying out what spring football will look like and how it will be handled safely ? So the players have something they can legitimately look forward to working towards and playing? Nothing, zilch has been communicated because no work had been put into it. 
 

This talk about just being a figurehead is baloney, Jim Delaney led from the front. He put forth his opinion and made things happen, he wasn’t just a ballot counter. Warren was a two faced empty suit at his previous job and I’m not impressed with him at all where he is now. 

2 hours ago, Undone said:

 

It's kind of a satisfying & subtle shaming of Warren & his office's incompetence.

Exactly

Like me working all day then mowing my yard in the dark when I get home because none of the kids would mow all week

Better yet- bought 30-40 trees for a public school project  to plant around campus. The public school lean on your shovel guy who was supposed to plant them couldn’t find the time. So on my lunch hour in my suit and tie, I planted 10-12 of them, dress shoes and all.

they were all planted the next day.

It works, you don’t get mad, you just do it 

The cold hard facts are healthy college age kids simply are not dying of Covid 19

The chances of.  College age kid dying in a car accident is 50x more than dying of COVID-19. so if the standard is zero then please ban all auto use. Life is full of risks and the minuscule risk COVID-19 is to these kids pales in comparison to the response. Those that want to play let them. Those that don’t want to, honor their scholarships and let them distance learn. 
 

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku

Warren totally botched this. They come out with a revised schedule a week ago then,  Cancel the fall schedule for a tentative spring Season that will never happen?Then we find out there are no detailed processes and protocols in place ?

To the college football world- The big10 looks like it doesn’t care about football. I get the pac 10 doesn’t,  California, Oregon, Washington, Colorado etc  While our footprint isn’t the bold Hard red of the sec or the big12, we aren’t left coast bright blue either. 

There is zero chance a spring season happens. Warren just kicked the can down the road to preclude us and others from playing in the fall. 
If player safety is a legit concern, no chance the kids play 20 plus games in 10 months

https://sports.yahoo.com/urban-meyer-no-chance-spring-222112075.html

27 minutes ago, Bledred said:

This cancellation is not just going to hurt the big ten senior class, but many future recruitment classes.  C19 is going no where and will rear its ugly head every year just like the flu season for years to come.  I can almost hear the SEC, big 12, and ACC coaches now telling those recruits in their homes..."I see you are considering going to Nebraska/OSU/Wisconsin/Penn State,  how will you be for sure there will be a season to play when you get there?  Having to transfer will lose you a year of eligibility and could ruin your chances at the NFL.  Come play at our conference, we never cancel."

 

 

Exactly 

Warren just set the big 10 back a decade. The huge recruiting grounds where they take football seriously, won’t consider big10 teams:

florida

georgia

texas

louisiana 

Heck forget about 500 mile radius also, with big 12 teams playing :

iowa

kansas

missouri 
oklahoma 

Only blue state where they aren’t playing with good number of kids is California and we’ve been going more south than west of late. 

I can stay closer to home and be sure to play or I can go north and maybe yes, maybe no. Imagine an 18 year old mind trying wrap their head around that. I’m working my a$$ off to get ready for a season that I have no clue if or when it’s going to start. Doesn’t matter how good the coaches are at motivating, that dog doesn’t hunt when a kid is 1,000 miles from home and your buddies are all playing on television !!
 

Man they had 5 months and never thought this through 

Bill moos did an outstanding job during this interview. He spelled out the process Nebraska officials used to put protocols in place. Without criticizing the Big10 he laid out why he and frost took the positions they did. Very well thought out, professional and reasonably diplomatic. 

Seems ridiculous, Nebraska would be slammed and threatened to be removed from the conference just because we wanted to play football. Meanwhile penn state, Michigan state, Iowa and Maryland were part of pretty nasty scandals and got off with just wrist slaps. 

Nebraska nets up about $14,000,000 per year more to the athletic department thanks to Jim Delaney and the btn tv deal. However we only got partial shares early on. My guess is we are upside down on the calculation thanks to this years big loss. 

Im as pissed as anyone about how Warren and the big10 responded to this. But with what the big10 brings to the university academically and research wise, there is zero chance we are going anywhere. It is what it  is

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/davidching/2018/04/17/big-tens-rights-deal-threatens-to-widen-financial-gap-between-even-the-biggest-conferences/amp/

This is why Brohm and Day came out with detailed plans this week on how to conduct a spring season.

Since it’s obvious Warren isn’t going to plan or the dog keeps eating his homework, it’s up to others to do his work. The coaches in the conference. 

Maybe this board could do his work for him and come up with a detailed plan? 

9 hours ago, JJ Husker said:

Well those things are not mutually exclusive. Yes, football getting cancelled definitely is mostly owed to our country wide failure to address the problem. But, it’s also obvious that the conference either didn’t put in much work to try to salvage the season or the potential liability just made them too skittish. I’ve also gotten the sense that the B1G leadership wants to be perceived as leaders and trendsetters rather than followers. So it’s also possible that when a few of the littles cancelled, followed by the MAC, they wanted to be seen as leading the way for the P5. It was looking quite inevitable but that sword cuts two ways if a few others manage to play. This is why they should’ve put in the work and developed protocols to deal with it. It doesn’t appear they did that. If the SEC, ACC and BigXII make it work, Warren has to be cut loose. In fact, it wouldn’t be a bad decision to dump him now just for being first and not having a plan. Hell, we bailed before even the PAC and we all know what wussies they are.

Warren is untouchable, he is the next one in line to run the nfl. In today’s climate, consider him made of Teflon. 
 

Listening to moos last night was great. Nebraska did an outstanding job of preparing protocols to safely get through the season. According to moos Nebraska could have wrote the book on how to do so. Warren and the big10 had nothing in place, had no intentions of even trying to put a season together.

Im very proud of how Nebraska handled this and tried to make it work. Frost and moos played the only cards we could play. At the end, we did what we had to do, smiled and with a wink and a  nod, with our fingers crossed behind our back, said we would support the conference. 

We all know spring football was a poison pill to keep teams from playing games in the fall and will never happen. Spring isn’t happening either, 20 plus games in 10 months isn’t happening. 
 

Assuming the sec, big 12 and acc play at least a part of their schedule, how does this effect the 85 limit and recruiting? If all the kids who didn’t play this season are given an extra year of eligibility how would we be able to add any new recruits come national signing day?

If we had a class of 20, that would put us at 105. I’m not guessing the sec, acc and big 12 teams will think it’s fair to allow the pac and big 10 teams to have over 100 scholarship kids on roster. And if the number is increased, title ix would require more women’s sports teams being added at a time when schools are broke. 

Its not a one year fix either since all 85 kids will most likely be given another year of eligibility. Expect to see the Nebraska recruits getting very anxious and looking to jump to sec, big12 and acc teams, that  would for sure have open spots. Warren has led very poorly with not having the protocols in place and the numbers thing is a complete mess, not a fan.