Husker1994

1 minute ago, seaofred92 said:

He’s probably going to say no and sit on the beach with his girlfriend(s) but you need to call coach O and offer him a hefty hefty sum to be DL coach IMO

Didn’t think of this. Think you’re right, but man what a hire that would be. “How bout dem blackshirts?”

2 minutes ago, sho said:

 That makes the most sense and give Busch RC title as well.  And since that seems like a logical plan, that will not be what happens at all.   lol

Good call on RC title, was my thought as well. I hope you’re wrong but common sense is hard to come by these days! 

Have to think they keep this in house, right? 
 

Dawson moves to DL (coached previously), Busch comes on to ST Coordinator, Ruud either takes all LBs or Chins takes a spot, and leaves room for RB hire TBD.

*Urban Meyer has entered the chat*

Maybe, just maybe, two of the issues so many have outlined (recruiting and development) are exactly what Frost is trying to address.

As many have outlined, the scheme isn’t entirely the issue. Our scheme actually works well at times.. it’s the talent and execution of the scheme that’s been the major issue. Just because a guy is rooted in one scheme doesn’t mean he can’t adapt to others and tweak for overall improvements. 
 

MJ, Quinn, and to a certain extent Harrell are guys known for recruiting and developing at high levels. As others have stated, I’m willing to roll with whatever changes are decided since there’s literally nothing any of us can do to change the fact that HCSF is coming back and changes are happening. 

46 minutes ago, runningblind said:

Why did we fire coaches with 3 weeks left in the season if there weren't coaches already lined up? Genuinely curious.

Fair question. One could argue this was done more for the fired coaches behalf (to start assessing their next step) since they were Frost’s friends and he can appear loyal to a fault at times. 

Sure, HCSF could start identifying targets but the delay doesn’t bother me as it stands today. We will know if this was Frost properly vetting to get the right guy by making a calculated decision - OR - having to go further down his list due to numerous rejections. I’m sure we can get an idea of how this all ended up when the hires are eventually announced. 

FWIW, Grimes and Joseph were both on the 2017 LSU staff. 

My guess would be that Joseph’s allure is heavily rooted in his recruiting ability, which he has earned.

With that said, if he stays at LSU, I could see HCSF simply adding WRs to Beckton. 

I do think he is a bit of a “first, than” hire. If we don’t get him, other staff configurations take place. Don’t love that, but just how it seems.

1 hour ago, SouthLincoln Husker said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakson_Reetz

Made it to the Nationals big league roster. Dad got a better job in Omaha and other son plays travel ball here in town. 
 

Going after obnoxious parents is one thing, but going after a kid for taking a big MLB signing bonus and dad taking a better job opportunity is a bit much. 

On 11/21/2021 at 11:38 PM, Husker1994 said:

Smoke picking up on Napier to UF. Sounds like wheels were in motion before announcement on Mullen. 

Bump.

Happy with the Mickey Joseph hire if true, but… much more concerned who is orchestrating the offense (OC) and setting the tone (OL). 

And while it could all be smoke, pleasantly surprised at the amount of talk around ST names. Hopeful that it means HCSF is ready to make it a priority. 

Just now, HANC said:

Not a chance! Meaningless topic. We all know everyone is mad, has to be more productive conversation. 

Agreed. I was more surprised it was mentioned than actually entertaining the idea.

23 minutes ago, chamrocck said:

I’d still look at Mullen and Herman. I don’t think either are on the radar for the other open jobs? They come from pressure cooker jobs that you could argue are more pressure than ours. If they take us bowling that is successful and they build huge momentum from there.

Is this at all possible? I can’t see TA the type to change course after announcing a decision. 

3 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

3 missed INTs = 9 Iowa points

Trade Accepted. 

Smoke picking up on Fickell staying put. 

47 minutes ago, desertshox said:

 

why does georgia have 3 DC/OLB coaches?

It’s an endowed position title. Dan Lanning is the “Fain and Billy Slaughter Defensive Coordinator” at UGA, as well as coach of the OLB group.

14 hours ago, chamrocck said:

Not a bad list and I could see many of those.  I don't see Moorehead at USC.  And I don't see Norvell at Wazzou.  I think Franklin has been overrated and his inflated stock has come back down and he will remain at PSU (unless USC overpays for him).  Those others could work.  

The Moorehead guess is more resting in the idea that someone ends up disappointed in every search, especially when this many major players are at the table.

6 hours ago, TGHusker said:

Please explain your thoughts on this more 

Just the idea that every year we see “high-profile” jobs opening up. As these jobs open up, ADs will have more data to review on young coaches to determine if they are true program builders vs catching lightening in a bottle. I’m specifically talking about Campbell, Fickell, Kiffin. 
 

Matt Campbell - Been on the rise, so how does he bounce back after a down year? Losing some key pieces, how has he positioned the team for the next run of success? 
 

Luke Fickell - how does he handle not having his QB return (Desmond Ridder) / can he recruit depth necessary to build and sustain a program. Reached the top, damn near CFP, but how does he sustain it? — Think CP at Boise State

Lane Kiffin - again, how does he handle the program building that is necessary when you lose top talent (Matt Corral at QB), has he really matured, etc.

I believe two things can be true at the same time.. 1. Coaches are becoming more picky when they make the jump to the high-profile jobs.. (See Napier passing last year on Auburn, South Carolina, etc) and 2. At the same time, programs are becoming more cautious at taking a swing and miss too soon on up and coming coaches. 

I am of the belief that the landscape of hiring coaches is changing. To lock in coaches, we are seeing longer (and bigger) deals so these high-profile openings will want to see a proven track record of growth, success, and SUSTAINABILITY within the programs these younger coaches are building. It’s why we see programs starting to throw massive extensions at current coaches or massive money (Jimbo at Texas AM, reported offers to Riley by LSU, etc) to proven coaches.

The day is January 1st, 2022 and CFB coaches include..

Florida - Napier
LSU - Aranda
TCU - Dykes 
USC - Moorehead
Virginia Tech - Chadwell
Washington - Deboer
Washington State - Jay Norvell

Baylor - Jeff Grimes

Coaches Staying Put

Ole Miss - Kiffin (program “fit” - been at USC, UF values Napier over Kiffin, and LSU won’t accept Kiffin - everything else is lateral) 

ISU - Campbell (waiting for the next round… MSU, PSU, other high profile midwest jobs won’t end up opening this cycle)

Cincy - Fickell waiting for the big one (PSU, OSU, Michigan, ND) and apparently didn’t like working with Bohn at Cincy (now AD at USC)
MSU - Tucker (extension)

PSU - Franklin (extension)

OU - Riley (extension)

For as quickly as we have seen ADs fire coaches, also will be a market overreaction to retaining coaches with big extensions.

A lot of good candidates will be around with more data points in the 2022 cycle.

Smoke picking up on Napier to UF. Sounds like wheels were in motion before announcement on Mullen. 

8 hours ago, Stumpy1 said:

His name is being thrown around for the Texas Tech HC job. 

Job was already filled. 
 

But speaking of TTU, wouldn’t be surprised if Sonny Cumbie gets serious consideration for the OC opening here. 
 

2 minutes ago, All Hail Herbie said:

Idealism will get you into trouble with this situation.  Trev is not seeking to willfully injure the program in an effort to save money, nor is he seeking to give Coach Frost a chance at redemption.  He is simply approaching the situation strategically.  Dismiss half the staff without as much as a whimper (gaining favor with those wanting transition and replacing them with short-timers), limiting the cost of separation next year through a re-structuring and appear to be graceful to those faithful Frost loyalists who would never forgive him for terminating this Coach.   Not bad for a man who has been on the job for 3 months.

In a lose-lose situation, Trev came out with a W. 
 

And at worst, a moral W - which we know most are fans of! 

2 minutes ago, Danny Bateman said:

 

Where'd you hear that? Seems odd he'd settle on that and still think "Well, guess I'll let these guys stick around and screw up a couple more games for us."

TA on Husker Sports Nightly mentioned it. Kinda sounded like he said “I agree Scott.. but let’s put a plan in place for what exactly that means before we start packing people’s offices”. 

17 minutes ago, RichardHangslow said:

I wonder how long this has been in the works, I mean I can't believe firing 4 of your guys is taken lightly no matter what the record has been. So that A: tells me that they have been working on this for a while and believe they have some serious upgrades in the bag and B: That Frost is going to have to 180 everything that he has done for the last 6 years as head coach, which is also not taken lightly and tells me that Trev is committed to making this thing work so BIG TIME COACHES are coming to Lincoln. 

 

should be fun.  Maybe we steal O'Brien or land Herman. maybe pete carrol comes in as oc  or maybe all 3 oh look at me I am getting a giddy. 

It was mentioned somewhere that Frost brought up the idea of wholesale changes after the MN game. 
 

Sipple also mentioned tonight that he knows for a fact that there have been some intro level talks with Jake Peetz at LSU and a mention of Mickey Joseph. 
 

Not opposed to Beckton taking WR but would like to see the plans for the OC (and their accompanied position specialty) before committing to a WR-Only coach like Joseph. 
 

Would prefer 

OC / QB

RB

WR/TE (Beckton)

OL

ST Coordinator 

FWIW, Sipple said part of the plan is to have Frost (finally) step into CEO role and fully give up play calling. 
 

Another quote from Parker:

“They are going to start from scratch on offense and it’s not going to look like the Scott Frost/Chip Kelly offense.”