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A visit is not a win. If you get him to visit and he commits elsewhere you wasted your time and you lost PERIOD. Cutthroat mentality. Only in fairyland is a visit a win.

Posts like this show who has and who does not have a background in sales. You don't win every deal. The best sales people know their closing rate and get people lined up and get in that mention. Getting someone like this on campus when he has been committed to his hometown school for 7 months is huge. It is a win. Walk before you run. Just ask Dubs.

Lewis - 80%

Sarell - 25%

Carr - 10%

Holmes - 10%

Shelvin - 5%

Jackson - 2%

DPJ - 0%

 

 

 

Cotton for sure.

They won't take cotton if he wants N. He is a plan B and is waiting to see what our plan A's do. Our DB recruiting is so good this year that guys we use to be glad to get are plan B's.

Don't think that's correct. He's about the only safety they're recruiting right now.

 

Along with the fact that "our DB recruiting is so good" would imply greater than 0 commits.

 

 

Cotton for sure.

They won't take cotton if he wants N. He is a plan B and is waiting to see what our plan A's do. Our DB recruiting is so good this year that guys we use to be glad to get are plan B's.

 

Cotton is not a backup plan, his commitment will be accepted if given. But our DB IS really good. We don't have to have commits for that to be true. Simply look at who all we are in on and where it's trending. Recruiting is a sales profession. It's a numbers game.

The whole thing started as a troll from RSS back when the search was going. "Journalists" then ran with it and wrote it as fact. It then grew national and it seems Grobe has lied to himself enough to convince himself he actually did have an offer. There is a negative percent chance he had an offer. I'm sure TO spoke with Grobe, but there was no offer. Ever.

The Sock didn't nail anything except common logic. He made a prediction AFTER the announcement of a press conference with the LPD and county attorney. Think for yourself, why would (or when has) a press conference be held with the CA/PD to say that charges are going to be pressed before an arrest is made? All that is doing is set up for the opportunity for the offender to flee. Honestly, I know some people like the shtick and some don't, but this was beyond easy to see coming after that announcement.

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..... you realize who tweeted this...?

 

ouch. I disagree with anyone who says we aren't a national laughingstock right now. We will continue to be no matter what our record ends up being

 

Ha. That is rich.

 

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You think the nation thinks about Husker football? This is not 1995.

 

They think about us as a laughingstock, yes. When you think about Nebraska you think about the team that just gave up 408 yards in 3 quarters to one running back. So yes, they do.

I don't think Michigan should fire Hoke either. I mean, it's best for NU.

Considering people say FSU is overrated, they would most certainly be saying that we were overrated.

Yet you at and so many others are tuned in. If it's unwatchable, the numbers will dwindle and content will change. Until then, nothing happens.

Why should a runner up (or more teams) in the same conference be considered in the playoffs, when they did not win their conference? It is another chance to be National Champions for multiple teams in the same conference to win. Win your freakin' conference, if not - their is always next year and take a bowl game, good luck.

What if your only loss is on the road in a close game to the team that wins the conference and you never had a chance to play them or for the title on a neutral field?

 

We got our asses handed to us for 3/4 of the game. Michigan state let off the gas, and our kids played their guts out.

Interesting how this seems to be a one-way street for many.

 

Nebraska comes back from 24 down against Michigan St.: They let us back in the game. Doesn't mean we're really as good as them.

 

Wyoming comes back from 17 down against Nebraska: We are so bad Wyoming almost came back to beat us.

 

Would you say that we did not let them back in that game? I would say we did. MSU letting us back in the game does not mean they shouldn't be punished for that. That isn't a one-way street at all, rather, being on different sides of it. As an MSU fan, I would be saying the same thing we said after Wyoming last year.

 

I laugh when people say "they almost lost to McNeese State." The fact is they didn't lose. They played through some adversity, made some plays and won. Just like teams are supposed to do. I know people will say "if blah blah makes that catch out of the backfield they score". Maybe. Maybe not. On the other side if NU makes a block here or there who knows, maybe NU scores twice more.

 

Even better than this is the chorus of "should have lost" in spite of a miracle 98 yard pick 6 skewing the score and the fact that the finishing play by our marquee player prevented a tie as opposed to a loss.

 

People, please... We won the bleeping thing. It's OK to let go of the masochism for a minute. In the final tally, our losses can hurt us- not our wins. Let's worry about getting more of them.

 

It is no different than saying we should have won vs MSU. We fell on a fumble around midfield on our last drive that if McNeese recovered, could have set them up with enough time to get a few yards and kick a FG. The "could have/should have" lost to McNeese came because of a "should have" won vs MSU. Neither happened.

 

 

Everything I heard said that conference champions mean the most. Oregon should have been the #4, not Ole Miss.

 

We have no conference champions yet.

 

yes, but were will you find 3 SEC conference champions other than $$$$$$$ (oh I mean ESPN)

 

You must have missed the part about not being able to factor in conference champions until after Dec 7th so the Dec 8th rankings could look way different.

 

 

Also if we win out and Mich st wins out you will have 2 top 10 teams in the B1G CCG. Winner is in the playoffs period

If TCU and Oregon win out, not necessarily.

TCU doesn't have a CCG. What top 10 team would Oregon play in their CCG?

I disagree, not because Oregon wouldn't play a top 10 team in their CCG, but if MSU wins, how do you look at 1 loss MSU and 1 loss Oregon and give MSU the nod? H2H has to be the biggest factor at that point unless something major injury wise happens.

No, she has a horsesh#t point. And I never claimed there was no correlation, only that hers is suspect because her example is a poor one...did you even read my posts? I heard nothing manly about the announcer for our game. I also said correlation does not equal causation. Learn the difference. Until SHE can prove some motive behind this supposed "only manly women are selected to announce" BS, then it's only an opinion, and a very poor one at that.

Oh, I am sorry. Apparently I am not allowed to comment on a post? And I'm glad that you are the decider of who has a poor opinion and who has a good opinion. You cannot name one pretty, higher voiced female that is doing PBP. Your posted said that if they only wanted "mannish" female voices in their broadcasts, people like Erin Andrews wouldn't have a job. However, that was nowhere near what Moiraine was saying. She said "It's like they think it's not acceptable to have a feminine woman who's knowledgeable about football calling the games. Apparently the only football-related job a woman is capable of doing is being a sideline reporter who flirts with the players. Or being Condoleeza Rice." ... So who isn't reading the posts? It has nothing to do with sideline people. Name one person female in the booth that doesn't sound more manly than feminine.

And yet they're on camera with increasingly large amounts of speaking. Not to mention women like Erin Andrews (I think?) who have done a large amount of talking in front of the camera during ESPN's Game Day Live stuff. If they only wanted "mannish" female voices in their broadcasts, none of them would have jobs.

 

You also seem to forget that correlation does not equal causation. And even your correlation is suspect here, because this woman was easily identifiable as a woman. She didn't sound like a man just because she didn't fit your stereotypical voice type.

On camera to look good. Erin Andrews is sideline talent. Moiraine has stated multiple times that her complaint with the networks has nothing to do with sideline talent. It's in the booth, and she has a damn good point. To say the correlation isn't there is, well, wrong. Unless you can provide anyone with females who are doing PBP/Color (again, not sideline) and are not more manly sounding, then you have no case. You're ignoring what she says and framing it to fit it to what you want to say.

Derrius Guice has decommitted from LSU in order to take his 5 visits.. Any idea if this will cause LSU to offer Bussey?

 

 

This is what I was getting at in another post. AS I have stated many times. It is not about winning or losing, it is how we play, who we play and how respected we are for our performance.

 

Last night was a loss, but listening to Herbie and Fowler, I think a lot of respect was gained, and it shows again in the polls. We did not play a great game, but we did perform about where most expected us to, but only in the 4th quarter. Too much attention given to less than stellar opponents in the out of conference schedule. We need to stop that crap for sure. Warm up games need to be developing our kids, not giving them the idea we will walk through the other team. Michigan State was much tougher than Nebraska for the first three quarters. Thanks to Oregon is my guess. And all the upsets yesterday did not help us either.

 

I am proud of the kids, not so much the coaching staff. I think they overcome some very poor coaching/play calling. But man this team loves their coaches, no question.

I am glad we showed a pulse at the end, but some of that praise from Herbie and Fowler was induced by the shock of how badly they had just watched us get beaten in every facet of the game for 3 quarters (should clarify I mean offensively here). One of the most memorable plays we had on offense was Cotton falling over for goodness sakes.

 

I'm not sure how much respect we really garnered after that game. To me, it didn't change anything really. We continue to be perceived as a team that can't win the big game, succumbs to pressure on big stages, struggles offensively, and is generally irrelevant on the national stage, perfectly content to languish as a barely ranked team. I'm not saying that only winning generates respect, there are honorable ways to play and there are honorable ways to run a program... but I don't think our performance this past week generated a lot of respect. I would have had a lot more respect for us had we played like that for four quarters rather than just one.

 

You worry too much about what the rest of the country thinks. Guess what the rest of the country really isn't that worried about Nebraska or whoever, they aren't a fan. Talked to 2 of 3 guys that work for me this morning. One is an Oregon St. fan the other is a BSU fan. Guess what they didn't watch the game, because they didn't care it wasn't their team playing. One said it must have been a close game from the looks of the score. That's what the majority of the country sees. A close game because it was a close score.

 

Everyone around the country is not obsessed with what Nebraska is doing. You think Alabama, UCLA, OU, A&M, Oregon and BYU fans are worried about Nebraska? How about the 3 loss S. Carolina fans or the LSU fans or the world?

 

The only teams that are really relevant at the end of the year will be the 4 that make the playoffs.

 

Not sure I can agree with that. I know a lot of people (Nebraska fans and non-Nebraska fans) that watch a lot of college football every week. They watch multiple games whether or not they have their specific team involved. Of course some people only pay attention to their team, but a lot of people watch a lot. And national perception is driven a lot by what the media says and talks about. When we aren't competitive, that is what is talked about. If it's a great game, it's shown a lot and again, drives that perception.

 

Americle? What two words are being spliced together? America and bicycle? Ameer and popsicle? Ameer and article? Why such a ridiculous name given to such a great article. Anyway, great read.

It should be Ameericle IMO

 

Ameeracle....

I dont know Polo. But I'll take the word of a former player of his from 7 years ago who's had no contact with Bo outside of one random phone call.

 

The audio again? Yeah, you can judge him on that. I have no problem with that. I have no problem with what he said. He was brute honest. They were fairweather f'ing fans. And Tom Shatel and the OWH can bleepity bleep bleep. After a week of ridiculing him and his sophmore qb, and then hearing the crowd boo and file out with a half to go, I dont see the big deal in being spitefully angry after finding a way to win that game. I guess I'm just the same kinda person in a way. You doubt me. You give up on me. You ridicule me. And when I find a way to overcome and come through, you god damn right I'm gonna rub your nose in that pile of sh#t. If you wanna hold him accountable for it go ahead. But it's sad that if we're winning more than 9-10 games a year, or hold on against UCLA, we still to this day never even know of that recording. That's chickin sh#t. Nothing less. Nothing more. It's a sickening display of double standards in society. Boo hoo. Bo's mad at fans that gave up on their team and left. Put your big boy pants on and quit being such a pu&&y about it.

 

And yes. The softball umpire story. Good God. Where do you people get this crap. Yeah. Bo berated an umpire at a girls softball game and no one caught it on camer or made a story of it. Who distributes the stupid pills around here? Is it 1990?

So because you don't know it means it isn't true? That's the thing about information. Those who have some know whether to trust it and if it's true, those who don't berate people who bring it. The softball thing has been out there for awhile now and it's generally accepted as true, whether you want to believe it or not. If you don't, great. No skin off my back. But it's a fact in my eyes (and many, many other people's eyes). And nobody made a story about it? Depends who you ask. There are people who made a story about it or nobody else would know.

And to this day YOU don't know of that recording. Again, there were many people that had already known it had happened. There are people that know that he has threatened media members. Some have had it happen to them, some have witnessed it. And you're blind if you think that the media doesn't talk to each other.

And the problem with telling the fans to f off that game and saying they're a bunch of fair weather whatevers is ,well, not everyone was. I was there the entire game. I was wet. I had no voice for days afterwards. I wasn't close to the only one. There were a TON of people there. It rained. We could have been winning by just as much and just as many people would have left. Would that make all those fans fair weather? And oh my. Some people got booed after a terrible first half display? I'm sorry, are you in the business of athletics? Then grow a little bit thicker skin. We're told as fans to get thicker skin because "Bo is Bo" but his can be paper thin? Give me a break.

And don't give me the PR is BS nonsense. If it was, there wouldn't be PR people on the payroll. Plain and simple. If you cannot acknowledge that PR plays a critical role in the image building of Bo, I cannot take anything you say seriously. Plain and simple.

Every time I've ever run into Bo in person he's either been grinning or laughing or saying thank you to random fans who come up to him when he's in public. (And no I'm not one of those people. I just like to eavesdrop creepily while pretending I don't know who he is).

Of course. So do most (if not all) coaches. But what does he do when you cut him off or drive too slow and cause him to miss a light? What does he do if he feels you've missed a call in his daughters game? What does he do if he feels you have an agenda against "his program"?

All I am saying is we are getting thrown this idea that he is a new person. We won't see it until those moments occur. We've seen the PR stunts over the last couple of years. I hope he actually has changed. It's a lot better for the state and the program. But I've been fooled a few too many times to buy into it yet.

Are you saying you know more than the average fan. I have never heard of him yelling at little league umpires.

 

Every major college athletic program as a PR director in fact most have several in the office the head of it is called the Sports Information Director. It is there job to get info out and make all the sports look good.

 

I think BP has always been this type of guy when out of the lime light. Has the "PR guy" said lets show everyone that side, is probably true. But, I don't think they have been sitting around thinking up things for BP to do to make him look better all the time.

 

More than some a lot less than others. I am by no means extremely privileged when it comes to information. However, I was under the impression that it was fairly common knowledge by now. It's taboo to talk about and TO did well to calm the storm, but I guarantee there are people on here that could confirm it.

And I understand that every athletic department has PR people. The post that I replied to acted as if it had nothing to do with PR. That's false.

And I think they absolutely have been looking for things to do to make him look better. It's called repairing the image. Do you think they would have needed to do all these things if none of the volatile parts of his personality had showed themselves?

 

 

Again, if Bo Pelini had been fired after last year's UCLA game or Iowa game, it may not have been the right choice but it certainly wouldn't have been surprising.

 

The win against Georgia and the off-season makeover made a difference, but we're only 9 months removed from a Code Red, so yeah.....that's a hot seat.

 

The off-season makeover is no different than any we've seen over the past couple of seasons. Any PR guy can make you look good when you are carrying out his choreographed actions. When the heat of the moment comes, that's when we'll see it.

 

This PR response to everything Bo does is BS...His players, co-workers and people that have known him for a long time all say he is a great guy and very personable. We as fans don't see that side like they do but instead see the intense Bo when he is working. Maybe, just maybe, Bo is letting us fans see his real demeanor and it isn't some PR bullsh#t like everyone claims it is.

 

How is it BS? Let's just pretend that you entertain the idea. It's been happening for the last 3 years. When the heat of the moment comes, he snaps. It's not just on the field. It's on the streets, it's at reporters, it's at freaking little league umpires. However, when you give him a plan to follow, he looks great. I'm not saying that he doesn't like the idea or wouldn't do it if he wasn't told to. I think he has the final say on everything. But he has a PR guy. That's a fact. Why else would he have one?