fro daddy

Being reported in the rivals network that's its bama or arkansas now.

I was on my phone and can't get the Twitter stuff to post correctly. But I first saw it from his older brother, then some of the local stl guys started and then it was confirmed with Raymond by rivals.

And mark is right, the first time it was rumored around stl but nobody would confirm. That was not the case this time. Sory again for trying to update. Linking on the site from my mobile is impossible for what ever reason

Will announce on 1/4 at the AA game. Word on the street in stl is its down to bama and mizzou

Reportedly committed to mizzou today.

those stats specifically? No, because I seriously doubt a NFL scout, coach or GM sit and think, "ESPN says he is good, so never mind what the tape says". I think if you really believe that ESPN, or Fox, or USA today has any power or influence over what players get picked in the NFL draft then you are really reaching. Heisman trophy, yeah you are absolutely right. Who they invest millions in and stake their jobs on? no way.

influence over the general public, absolutely. But then again, if you sit down and watch the teams you can get a feel for teams or conference strength. I watch a lot of games. And it is clear that the SEC and PAC12 are clearly the best two conferences. Most of that has to do with their players and coaches. And I would wager that over the next few years those two conference will have more picks than the BIG10 or Big12 because of that.Not because espn has a hard on for one team or conference over another.

The whole thing comes down to players and coaches. Either you better recruit the heck outta some good players or be able to identify and develop talent. And I fully disagree with your statement about rankings of hs players. You claim they get extra stars after they commit to SEC schools. That is pretty far fetched really. Considering most high ranked players receive rankings long before the commit. The reason the SEC has more 4 and 5 star player is they have a lot of really talented players in their areas. Have some advantages by being able to sign extra and redistribute early enrollers to the prior year and that frankly right now the SEC is 'cool'. The play the 'best players and teams'. Some of that is media perception and some is based on the run of championships multiple teams share, the vast number of players drafted the past few years and because they (the SEC) market the heck out of them selves and their conference. One thing that differs the SEC from everyone is that the SEC is important to all SEC teams. They champion the conference. They support the other teams when they play OOC. You watch, no matter which team wins on Saturday, coaches, ADs, fans & SEC mouth pieces all alike will champion that team to the NC game. The SEC is a draw to players because of all of those things. And all the teams bring in top players.

hard to believe that saban would leave bama. But who knows. He has never stayed any where for very long. I seriously doubt Texas to the SEC. They are not keen on add teams from the same states. And if that ever bends there seem to be a ground swell that would support FSU and Clemson over anyone else.

So over those 15 years, the SEC had about 100 more draft picks than the B1G - about six per year. There are roughly 255 draft picks each year which means the SEC had roughly 2.6% more of the draft picks than the B1G. Like I said, better, but not as much as many like to believe.

The fun thing about stats is you can manipulate the amount of data to make the numbers support your argument. Your numbers go back to 97 when the Big10 was still a power and not a weak link of the auto qualifiers. Just by using the last 10 seasons it becomes 105 more picks or more than 10 per year. How about I only grab the last 5 during which the SEC has dominated recruiting and been knee deep in the title streak. Well now that number is 229 SEC to 150 for the big10. 79 more picks in 5 drafts, or nearly 16 more players per draft. Or how about first round picks during those 5 years? 46 to 18. Or 9.2 a year for the SEC compared to 3.6 for the big10. slightly more than 2.5 times the number of players. That's pretty significant. Add in Missouri, ATM and Neb for the time prior and then that number jumps to 55-20 or 11 first round picks a year to 4. Total of 255 SEC to 167 Big10 or 17.6 more players taken per year. Just for fun the past two seasons are 105 picks / 22 first round SEC to 61 picks / 5 first round Big10.

no real point, other than showing that I can make the same numbers look dramatically different than you did. In fact I made that number jump by 3 times.

Findings in Jameis Winston investigation to be relaesed tomorrow at 2 PM EST.

Any guesses as to what happens?

Mavric (and others for that matter), I am not trying to come off as a d***. I just love my team. And every once in a while I get a little hot under the collar about it. I know Husker fans, if anyone, around here would understand that.

So past seasons don't matter but then you're reading us Mizzou's resume over the last seven years? OK. Over the last five years these "mediocre" Huskers still have more 10-win seasons and more Division titles than Mizzou. And we don't have two 8-win seasons and a losing season mixed in. Over the last seven that you quote we're all of one behind in both.

actually I said 7 and you only have (3) 10+ win seasons, and the same number of division titles over that time. you also have a 5 win season. Yours was due to being awful. Ours was due to having more injuries than Nebraska this season, including having 7 of our top 10 OL go down while playing the #2 schedule in the country. But that wasn't the point. the point is that that poster cant try to slam mizzou when recent history is not bad. I was just simply showing how silly it was to say that. And if Mizzou was second tier at the end of the big12 so was Nebraska since they were darn near identical those last years.

You are right though that it is not like everyone else is playing pee wee. But look at the players in the league, on every team. look at the rankings. look at the nfl draft. They did a little thing on a mizzou board comparing the number of 4 and 5 stars mizzou has faced this season compared to 2007. They faced like 54 in 2007, have faced 130 this season so far. That's crazy. by the time they finish this year that # will be triple 07. Its just there are fewer really bad teams and even the bad ones have playmakers and nfl talent. Regarding ATM and Mizzou doing well. JFF will do that for you. And I think we would all agree that ATM underachieved for years in the big12. They had plenty of top talent and just had crappy coaching. A new coach and a once in a quarter century type of player will change your level. As for Mizzou they started making changes back in 08 & 09 to be the team the are now. They had the makings of a really good team last year, but playing with a 3rd string oline, back up freshman qbs, missing your best RB, having DB's and LBS out will frankly kill you when you played the teams they did. Mizzou is trying to build to an every year thing, But they are really on a 3 year cycle right now. Pretty good for 2 years, and really good the 3rd.

THis stuff just pisses me off frankly. The blind and ignorant statements about my team and others like auburn. I want to see the best teams play, not the best of some weak conference. Just curious if all this big10 love for an undefeated team was there last year for ND? I personally thought ND in that game was a joke. Just the idea of trying to stick it to a conference or build a playoff that will keep the best possible teams out so others feelings don't get hurt is stupid. The big10 pushing this crap is old. 10-15 years ago the roles were reversed and the big10 was the power. no way would they be arguing this way then.

The SEC is not some end all of college football. It's the best conference, but not by much. Look no further than Missouri already in their title game. The same Missouri that hasn't won a conference title since the 60s. That powerhouse is suddenly tops of the conference. A one-loss SEC does not belong in the same conversation as an undefeated team from the other power conferences.

I don't want to insult your intelligence...but can you explain what the past seasons have to do with this one?? Hate to break this to you...but if Missouri was in the big10, they are undefeated. They would be in this position regardless of conference. And every single husker fan or big10/big12 ding bat that tries to slam the SEC based on what Mizzou is doing this year is showing their ignorance and jealousy. If anything let me flip the script. Look at Nebraska. The fact that your record is what it is given just how avg to even below avg your team is shows just how pathetic your conference is. Do you even make a bowl if you are in the pac12 or sec? six wins max, and I don't know if you even get that. yet you champion OSU like they are gods. They haven't played a team ranked higher than 17 in two years. and that was NW who won 1 conference game and is closer to the bottom 25 than the top 25. Which means OSU's best win is what, Wisconsin. Wisconsin who has beaten only 3 teams that are even remotely decent in Iowa, BYU and Minn. Let that sink in for a minute. The first top 10 team that OSU will play is this weekend. That has to mean something. It has to mean something that their best win is only slightly better than Missouri's win over Florida. There just seems to be some blind hate about this stuff. Blind to how bad the big10 currently is and blind to the possibility of just how good mizzou and auburn might be. And FYI this is MU's 4th time winning or tying for a division in the last 7 seasons. Their 4th 10+ win season in that time frame. acting like we are some scrub group is just dumb

Don't forget the year that 2 loss LSU made the title game while 1 loss Kansas went to the Orange Bowl.

Now your just grasping straws. If you truly believe a team that finished second in their division and at that time had zero wins against teams with winning records should have played for that mnc you are either crazy or blinded by hate.

There is always some luck in getting to that game. Ohio state needed two teams to lose while they sat at home idle. With thqt said. Not much luck in a 21 point 4th quarter lead.

Missouri hasn't beat a single ranked team, A&M will be unranked tomorrow after losing, so no current team will be ranked that Missouri beat.

I thought every SEC team is ranked at all times???

That's because he is wrong. Mu has beaten 4 teams that were ranked. Only on of thise is still ranked though. But mizzous four victories over ranked teams is the same as OSU & FSU combined. But don't let facts get in the way of jealousy and hate.

None taken deed. I know how it is. We couldn't get the respect we deserved in the big 12 and now we are given a little extra because of the sec

It also may mean that Pinkel has become a decent head coach.

The guys had 5 losing seasons. In my opinion, today just re-emphasized my thoughts that in today's college football, the line between average/good/great is pretty small. Michigan and Penn State are both average teams, but they almost and did beat two very good teams. Mizzou was terrible last year, and riddled with injuries, and now they could possibly play in the MNC if things shake their way. Pinkel very easily could have (and probably should have) been fired after a couple seasons, and look where he's at now. I really think if we stay the course with Bo, we will have our time.

 

Perspective is needed here. Consider that when pinkel came to Missouri, the tigers had been to 2 bowls in 18 years. So the leaseh on losing seasons would be a little longer. Firing him last year would have been short sighted and stupid.

 

You are right however that sometimes it's worth sticking with a coach. But sometimes when there is little to no change or growth you need to make a decision

Agreed, but I know some Mizzou fans have been playing the "not getting better, getting worse card" about every year since 04. Anyway, good luck Fro Daddy, be rooting for the Tigers in the title game.

Thanks. And I don't doubt our fans. Like you mentioned before, some said last year he should have been gone. Its easy to forget just how bad we were and just how much better we are now. Sometimes its easy to get caught up in the extras and loss sight of perspective

It also may mean that Pinkel has become a decent head coach.

The guys had 5 losing seasons. In my opinion, today just re-emphasized my thoughts that in today's college football, the line between average/good/great is pretty small. Michigan and Penn State are both average teams, but they almost and did beat two very good teams. Mizzou was terrible last year, and riddled with injuries, and now they could possibly play in the MNC if things shake their way. Pinkel very easily could have (and probably should have) been fired after a couple seasons, and look where he's at now. I really think if we stay the course with Bo, we will have our time.

Perspective is needed here. Consider that when pinkel came to Missouri, the tigers had been to 2 bowls in 18 years. So the leaseh on losing seasons would be a little longer. Firing him last year would have been short sighted and stupid.

You are right however that sometimes it's worth sticking with a coach. But sometimes when there is little to no change or growth you need to make a decision

Yep. The vaunted SEC has Mizzou in its championship game.

 

Yep.

 

Says a lot more about mizzou than it does the sec

 

I kinda think it says a lot about both. I think the SEC is so overrated this year and I think Mizzou has a good team.

Look at it this way deed. Mizzou jist wenr 11-1 (7-1) in what is at worst, the second best conference in cfb. Even if the SEC is "down", its still a damn good conference.

Yep. The vaunted SEC has Mizzou in its championship game.

 

Yep.

Says a lot more about mizzou than it does the sec

No clue who iowa nice guy is, but the irony in midwestern states all mocking each other never fails in making me laugh. Never understood one rural ag state calling another rural ag state "hicks" or "inbred". But huskernationnick did bring up a good point. CB is filled with some weird ones. Lol

^^^This X1000^^^ These morons just don't seem to get the irony in that whole situation...............Iowa is no "mecca" for civilization like they seem to think it is and I've lived here my ENTIRE life.

May not be a mecca, but I always thought you classed the place up BRI.

No clue who iowa nice guy is, but the irony in midwestern states all mocking each other never fails in making me laugh. Never understood one rural ag state calling another rural ag state "hicks" or "inbred". But huskernationnick did bring up a good point. CB is filled with some weird ones. Lol

Has this guy ever been to Council Bluffs? Talk about mullets, neck beards, crackheads, meth addicts and that's just 2% of my list! LOL

 

All the people I know from CB look like that and.... are husker fans.

Do they look anything like this?

 

No. Not so much like that. Not quite so young and rich. A little more like this. Half retarded looking and piss on their clothes.

Has this guy ever been to Council Bluffs? Talk about mullets, neck beards, crackheads, meth addicts and that's just 2% of my list! LOL

All the people I know from CB look like that and.... are husker fans.

So the talking heads over at espnu have us going to Outback Bowl, Jan. 1: Nebraska. Who would we play then?

A SEC team.depending on how things end and where teams fall, it could be between auburn, mizzou, south Carolina, lsu and Texas a&m.

Can't imagine he would resign and then coach more games. Really can't believe he would resign period. Plus to me the canidates list looks bogus. Tressel is still under show cause for multiple more years. Can not for the life of me see Nebraska voluntarily taking on ncaa probation for a coach. Smart has never coached outside of the southeast and has turned down a number of jobs there. Has been with saben since lsu and makes like 1.5 mill as an assistant. I seriously doubt he would have any interest in Nebraska, nor would Nebraska want a first time hc that would likely have to make as much if not more than bo from day one.

Whole thing seems bogus. Maybe bo is about to be done, but I don't think it goes down like what is claimed by this guy.