Spooky Tooth

 

No way is 2015 Purdue the worst loss in even recent Nebraska history.

Yes it was.

 

And Melvin Gordon scores again!

 

Why do you guys honestly care so much about wins and losses? At the end of the day, why does it really matter?

 

 

I want our team to win every game, but if they don't, especially on 50/50 plays, I just shrug it off and enjoy being able to watch my favorite team compete playing my favorite sport. One play doesn't diminish the effort those kids put forth, or the enjoyment I have being a small part of it if only by watching.

 

Losing on one bad decision or play is not even in the same stratosphere of embarrassment as giving up 60-70+ and being turned into roadkill by OSU or Wisconsin. The difference between a 6-7 season with a lot of tough breaks and a 10-11 win season is night and day by a lot of your perspectives, when it's really just a difference of a few inches.

 

 

Dude... you have the right to be a looser... or a quitter or whatever else you want to be...

 

But...

 

 

Football is a performance sport, judged harshly by wins/losses and season records.

 

People need to get back to understanding that fact.

 

Unnecessarily snarky response, Dood. You seem to be an angry recycled poster picking up where you left off.

 

the highlight of the season?.......we didn't lose by more than 10 points to anyone............wow

It's the new standard that was decided upon in place of 9/10 wins.

 

The "best" part is how the article relates not losing any games by more than 10 points to our last conference championship year. You da man, Riley!

 

I am shocked you feel that way.

 

 

 

Hey guys,

 

Just thought this would be something interesting to discuss this offseason. Since it feels like we are always churning out an assistant coach or someone is taking them, I should say...

 

1. Who is the next assistant coach to leave for "greener pastures" in your opinion?

 

2. Who is the next former husker player or coach to join the staff?

Honestly, I don't see any former Husker players or assistant coaches coming back to NU under the Riley administration.

 

My point is that I don't see Riley going out of his way to hire former Huskers as assistant coaches. He is going to hire guys that he is familiar with and friends of friends.

 

Okay, that makes sense (no sarcasm).

 

Hey guys,

 

Just thought this would be something interesting to discuss this offseason. Since it feels like we are always churning out an assistant coach or someone is taking them, I should say...

 

1. Who is the next assistant coach to leave for "greener pastures" in your opinion?

 

2. Who is the next former husker player or coach to join the staff?

Honestly, I don't see any former Husker players or assistant coaches coming back to NU under the Riley administration.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Per Dan Hoppen Tweet: Nebraska play calling this season:

 

Six wins: 56.2% runs, 43.8% passes

Seven losses: 40.7% runs, 59.3% passes

Honestly, I'm ok with either one of those ratios as long as we're winning. Give it some time and I think some of those 7 losses become wins sooner rather than later.

I should hope Purdue isn't ever a loss again.

 

But that said, will people be content with 3 to 4 losses a season?

All of the BOlievers were apparently content with it. Had a conversation with one of the relatives tonight who still wishes we had Bo. I asked him why, and the response was well the team never gave up on him. My response was the big ten title game vs Wisky or last year vs Wisky. He merely said that it wasn't bad coaching that it was just superior players.

 

Once again I asked how could a walk on from GI be the back up QB for this team. His response well that's not the coaches fault. I find myself having conversations with people like this more often then I'd like to. Not sure if they will ever get it.

Did he ask you about the 4 backup QBs + 1 starter on UNLs National Championship teams?

 

1970 - Van Brownson: Shenandoah, Ia.

1971 - Steve Runty: Ogallala, Nebraska

1994 - Matt Turman: Wahoo, Nebraska

1995 - Brook Berringer: Goodland KS

1997 - Scott Frost(STARTER): Wood River, Nebraska

 

But I suppose you're not a Devaney or Osborne supporter either.

 

Not always where you're from, it's how you party when you get there.

How many of those guys threw 4 INTs in a game? To compare Ryker with those last two guys is pretty laughable. Love the story but I doubt he'd be starting for many D-1 schools

How many of those guys were coached to throw 48 times against a conference bottom feeder?

You don't have a clue about Ryker's abilities until he's led by a coach that can actually win more games than he loses.

 

Your purpose here is becoming more and more evident. The hate on the coaching staff rhetoric is growing old, I don't care how much discussion it causes.

 

 

What is getting old is NU being bad. The coaches gave the fans plenty of ammunition.

 

This year was some of the worst coaching I have seen in some time!

 

I'm beginning to think there's a secret cabal somewhere that is determined to infest HB with trolls. Would I agree that there were coaching decisions that were boneheaded? Yes. But I refuse to discuss that when posters like this one open an account and then proceed to drop turds with every post. If you would show a semblance of balance in your posts I might take you seriously. Until then, I just consider you ban-hammer meat.

So there.......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Per Dan Hoppen Tweet: Nebraska play calling this season:

 

Six wins: 56.2% runs, 43.8% passes

Seven losses: 40.7% runs, 59.3% passes

Honestly, I'm ok with either one of those ratios as long as we're winning. Give it some time and I think some of those 7 losses become wins sooner rather than later.

I should hope Purdue isn't ever a loss again.

 

But that said, will people be content with 3 to 4 losses a season?

All of the BOlievers were apparently content with it. Had a conversation with one of the relatives tonight who still wishes we had Bo. I asked him why, and the response was well the team never gave up on him. My response was the big ten title game vs Wisky or last year vs Wisky. He merely said that it wasn't bad coaching that it was just superior players.

 

Once again I asked how could a walk on from GI be the back up QB for this team. His response well that's not the coaches fault. I find myself having conversations with people like this more often then I'd like to. Not sure if they will ever get it.

Did he ask you about the 4 backup QBs + 1 starter on UNLs National Championship teams?

 

1970 - Van Brownson: Shenandoah, Ia.

1971 - Steve Runty: Ogallala, Nebraska

1994 - Matt Turman: Wahoo, Nebraska

1995 - Brook Berringer: Goodland KS

1997 - Scott Frost(STARTER): Wood River, Nebraska

 

But I suppose you're not a Devaney or Osborne supporter either.

 

Not always where you're from, it's how you party when you get there.

How many of those guys threw 4 INTs in a game? To compare Ryker with those last two guys is pretty laughable. Love the story but I doubt he'd be starting for many D-1 schools

How many of those guys were coached to throw 48 times against a conference bottom feeder?

You don't have a clue about Ryker's abilities until he's led by a coach that can actually win more games than he loses.

Your purpose here is becoming more and more evident. The hate on the coaching staff rhetoric is growing old, I don't care how much discussion it causes.

You know what's growing old? The hiring practices of UNLs administration. The empty trophy case shelves from year 2000+. The non ability to be proud of our state treasure, the Cornhuskers. That's what.

 

Back in the day if a record had a skip you could put a dime on the needle arm to get past the skip. If I put a dime on your head could you please come up with a different tune?

 

We could have easily gone 10-3 this year. But obstacles piled sky high.

Not nice to refer to our coaches as obstacles but ok.

 

Another friggin ray of sunshine. Do you play any other tunes?

 

 

 

 

 

 

A feeler to Chip Kelly for what exactly? We aren't in the market for a coach.

I personally feel that "you" are always in the market...if you can find someone better you need to do that...Coaches recruit players and AD's need to be recruiting coaches.

Why would Shawn Eichorst fire Mike Riley even if Chip Kelly was available? The amount of uproar around here would be monumental, even if it was a name like Kelly.

By who? Or is it, whom?

Fans, boosters, you name it. The logic behind reaching out to Kelly suggests a lack of faith in Riley, yet, Eichorst has spent the last year selling us on why Pelini needed to go and Riley was the guy to replace him.

 

And while I can only speak for myself, I'm not thrilled about having Chip Kelly in Nebraska and I don't think he would be a good fit here.

 

But, that's besides the point. Eichorst is not going to willingly fire Riley unless forced to.

I'm not an advocate for getting Riley (I actually like the guy) but why don't you think Kelly would work here? He took over a good program in Oregon and made it an elite program. Honestly most of the players on our roster right now would fit his system well. TA would probably be a very good QB in his system. His name alone would bring in top tier recruits, just like Harbaugh did at Michigan. We have everything he'd need to succeed right away. The biggest drawback in my opinion would be how long would he stay before he jetted and took another shot at the NFL?

But, if Kelly gets NU back to a dominant program in a 4-5 year time period, I would take that in an instant. If Kelly does leave, then NU goes after Frost and his similar system.

 

Who knows how Riley wants to stick in the coaching game. I know he's a "young 62-63" and that he's younger than Nick Saban, but man there are times when it's a colder game and Riley looks miserable on the sidelines. It's like he can't wait to get back in the locker room and have a cup of hot cocoa.

 

Let's see...... Bad mouth Riley all season long---- in his first season---- but give Kelly the keys to the house and give him 4-5 years.....

And the only time I've seen Riley miserable was when one of his players was being accosted on the field in the bowl game. But then if I wanted to poison the waters against Riley, why I could sound just like a poster who just got banned.

Oh, and by the way, if seeing a miserable coach were an issue, I'd be used to it after watching a loon on the sidelines for the seven years prior to Riley.

 

 

 

 

People bemoan the blowouts of past seasons, and I get that, but at least those losses were often against teams that were favored to be Nebraska (e.g., Wisconsin last year was -4). I wish there was an easy way to compare NU's records against spreads across each year.

So because a team was favored over us by less than a touchdown a blowout loss is ok?

 

We have been favored and lost many times over the last handful of years. Its nothing new.

 

Minnesota 2014: NU-10 lost by 4

Iowa 2013: NU -3 lost by 21

Minnesota 2013: NU -10.5 lost by 11

UCLA 2012: NU -5 lost by 6

Wisconsin 2012: NU -3 lost by 39

Northwestern 2011: NU -17.5 lost by 3

 

Bolded the important part. Riley has essentially lost games we were favored in during his first season as Bo's entire tenure. I get that different people see losses differently, but here's the rub. Pelini had a low floor, but a high ceiling. We traded in a low floor/high ceiling couch for a high floor/low ceiling coach, but at least we competed for championships.

 

 

To be fair, Riley has also won about as many big games as Bo did his entire tenure. How many top ten teams did Bo beat? One. Mizzou, 2010. Did Bo ever win a bowl game where we were the dog by 7 points? And speaking of Bo's bowl games, I think that list above missed our loss to Washington in the 2010 Holiday bowl. The year we played Washington twice.

 

 

 

Sure we'll have fewer blowouts (Purdue was a blowout no matter how you slice it, Miami was a blowout until they stopped trying), but I just don't see us getting to the next level with Riley. And honestly, I'm fine with that for the most part. We most likely won't win anything of consequence with Riley as coach, but that isn't what he is here for.

 

Why do people keep saying this? Does the order of scoring matter more than the final score? If you swap around the 3rd and 4th quarter scoring would it not be a blowout? I mean, if we had outscored Purdue 29 to 7 in the 3rd quarter, and then had been outscored 21 to 7 would you not consider it a blowout? Was the UCLA game a blowout since we outscored them 30-0 from the end of the 2nd qtr through the beginning of the 4th? Woo hoo, by your logic Riley blew out a bowl team when we were a touchdown underdog! I don't think your buddy Pelini ever did that, did he?

 

 

Purdue hung 55 point on us, and if not for some garbage TDs would have won by at least 30 points (that's what they were leading by going into the 4th). Go ahead and wave a magic wand to try to change facts to suit your goals of defending Riley at all costs, but a blowout is a blowout no matter how many garbage TDs a team gets.

 

Miami was up by 20 until they took their foot off the gas in the 4th quarter. But go ahead and ignore that fact while you make up strawmen arguments about the order of scoring.

 

What were you smoking when you wrote this? Way to take a small portion of my comment unbelievably out of context to make a stupid and pointless argument.

 

 

 

Was the UCLA game a blowout since we outscored them 30-0 from the end of the 2nd qtr through the beginning of the 4th?

 

We can have civilized conversations about the coaching staff, but not when a board moderator resorts to boliever/boleaver bullsh#t, strawmen arguments, etc.

 

Not sure being a mod means giving up the right to post opinions. Did I miss the part where he abused a board rule? Absent that, posting on the board means pulling on your big boy pants and dealing with disagreement. Not passing judgment on football-related points you've made...... actually agree with some of your post #8. (but seriously Pelini.... low floor high ceiling? Barf.)

 

A feeler to Chip Kelly for what exactly? We aren't in the market for a coach.

I personally feel that "you" are always in the market...if you can find someone better you need to do that...Coaches recruit players and AD's need to be recruiting coaches.

 

Nope,no thanks, pass.

You folks are taking this thread down the same f'ing path as all of the other threads. It's getting old

And one bright ray of sunshine is conspicuous by his absence since NU won the bowl game.

 

 

 

Valentine says he'll talk it over with his family over the next week.

 

Kevin Williams said he's considering whether or not to play next year.

I think VV is deciding on if he goes NFL or transfers and plays a final season somewhere else, most likely the SEC.

 

 

That would be very strange and concerning at the same time. What's the basis of this speculation?

 

Too much eggnog during the holiday's.

 

Blatant abuse of an apostrophe. A pox upon you.

OFFENSE

 

QB: Tommy Armstrong / Patrick O'Brien

RB: Devine Ozigbo / Terrell Newby

FB: Harrison Jordan

TE: Cethan Carter

 

WR: Jordan Westerkamp

WR: Brandon Reilly

WR: Stanley Morgan / Alonzo Moore

 

OT: Nick Gates

OG: Jerald Foster

C: Paul Thurston / Dylan Utter

OG: Tanner Farmer

OT: David Knevel

 

 

DEFENSE

 

DE: Freedom Akinmoladun

DT: Vincent Valentine / Kevin Maurice

DT: Kevin Williams

DE: Greg McMullin

 

OLB: Michael Rose-Ivey

MLB: Josh Banderas

OLB: Dedrick Young / Marcus Newby

 

CB: Chris Jones

FS: Joshua Kalu

SS: Nate Gerry

CB: Aaron Williams / Antonio Reed

MRI and JB are seniors next year. While Young and Newby come back Bray is gonna have to start grooming some of the younguns.

 

Isn't Gerry gone

Oh, and CB Josh Kalu

Nate has one more year.

 

The brain trust on ESPin kept saying (as did the graphics) that he was a senior. ESPin is what happens when you drink the bong water.

Hey! Keep all that stuff in one of the bitching threads.

 

I'm happy to enjoy any win.

 

What a fantastic game. I was only able to follow along intermittently on the phone, watching the teams trade scores...and then I managed to check back in just before the end of the game, and just before my second viewing of Star Wars. Shocked to find that the Huskers had unleashed a can of whoop on UCLA in the 2nd half and were about to close out the win. Awesome day. Can't wait to catch the highlights/replays.

You're not the boss of me.

 

 

 

 

 

Ucla is seriously depleted by injuries and other factors. NU will be as or more talented

So what I hear you saying is that a win means nothing, but a loss would mean WHOAH!!

 

And with Nebraska's clear talent advantage, that loss could only fall on one man's shoulders.

You should check your hearing, I think.

All I have to go on is everything you write.

Need a Kleenex?

 

I understand that the "Nebraska has no talent" fits some of your agendas, but this team has talent. Ucla is a step child in LA and hit by injuries. Our guys are damn good.

 

Sorry, not sorry, if that statement offends you.

 

 

I've posted many times that Nebraska has a lot of talent, but not across the board or particularly deep, and that can make a difference.

 

Just a few posts ago I mentioned that Nebraska had enough talent to hang with or defeat three ranked teams this season.

 

So that's my agenda.

 

I'm sorry if I lumped your last four months worth of posts together in my response, but it's kinda hard not to.

 

If you try to be reasoned or balanced in your views, some here will be offended.

 

 

 

Our run/pass ratio played to Armstrong's skill set. Too bad Riley didn't get that memo in September.

Just shut it and enjoy the win

It's a fair comment. This was the offense most of us waited all year to see. It helped that UCLA was an undersized defense, but it was the best the offense looked all season, in terms of efficiency.

No, it's a carbon copy of his last 500 posts slightly updated.

 

Yup

Remember, I bet over 50% of these fans are in favor of the "participaion trophy" philosophy. "Oh, if I don't tell Jimmy I'm proud of his 11th place finish, he'll grow up to be a serial killer." Amurica is f'd, Nebraska's part of Amurica. You know what their doing in China right now? Weeding out 1 billion of the weakest citizens and preparing 300 million winners to lead the world with. Compare that to what the US is doing with it's 300 million people. Sorry, anyone calling the 2nd worst season in NU history a success is a deranged sunshine pumping fool. Hollow "bwol" win or not. Don't get me started on what Coach Harbaugh is doing right now while wearing his cleats.

Annoys the hell out of me when ppl say "Murica" or, in this case, "Amurica". As for the rest of this post.....wha?

I'd like to see us run that offense from last night. I understand what's going on in a game like that. You can see the opponent (UCLA) getting discouraged and the Huskers gaining confidence. It was beautiful.

 

However, UCLA didn't have the horses to stop the run in this game. Many of our Big Ten opponents do. So, it's not as simple as just plug this offense in this season and reap the rewards. We may have had as many 2nd-and-shorts last night as we had all year. That makes a huge difference.

Interesting clash of cultures going in in the staff. They came from a pass happy PAC 12 and seemed to homage to smash mouth football only as a sidebar. Will be interesting going into the Spring. I absolutely loved seeing a team get worn down and gasping for breath in the second half.

Special teams played well yesterday, D. Brown's one errant kick and a couple of runbacks by UCLA aside. We can dither about UCLA's run defense but the Bruins' ST players were quality and the team did well. Stanley Morgan had some hard returns and I actually saw a return setup that allowed our returner a chance. I've been on the fence about the value of the ST coach, given his pay but there's no denying that the boys did well yesterday.

 

 

Sounds like what it comes down to, is we haven't had the staff or S/C coaches to build or train these kids, in a long time. Which is it ?

 

GBR!!!

 

I don't know, but Clownahan made a living as an OL coach for quite a while. What the OL did and became under his watch was probably the biggest disappointment of his tenure here. Another huge letdown was what we did with Bake Steinkuhler. He was a four star recruit as an OL, so of course we make him a DL.

 

Callahan wasn't the offensive line coach here. And last I checked he was still making a living in the NFL as an oline coach.

 

For the life of me I can't recall who his oline coach was.

 

Bill Busch?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, other than the fact that NU beat the team that won the B10E... And don't get me started on an average Florida team playing for an SEC championship.

 

NU has a talented roster.

If some on the board could drop their irrational dislike for the current staff, the answer is kinda simple. The roster is talented and deep in some positions (interior defensive players, wide receivers) and thin and less talented in others (QB, DE, LB). The roster is good in some spots and not so good in others. Does that make it talented or not talented, and how the hell do you decide?

 

According to some Nostradomi on this board roster depth and quality is the fault solely and exclusively of the current staff. I would include the intellectual giant who, in another thread, predicted the current staff will be gone next year.

Pretty simple: with similarly talented rosters, a fired coach won north of .700 of his games here.

 

Only when a coach comes in and lays an egg against a very easy schedule do we hear that the talent isn't there to continue 9+ win seasons. Of course, that's not what was said at the time of the firing last year. And it's not the case today, either.

 

The roster isn't perfect, but it's far better than the results that were wrung out of it.

 

Now cue: we only won last year because of a single player arguments.

 

Talent level under Frank was dropping, anyone who is honest can see that. Same with the last staff. MK III Eyeball Detector.

 

Frank had the #14 class in the country when he was fired, and he likely would've signed Woodhead.

 

 

 

Exposed again. You straight up invent crap to try to make a point.

 

http://dataomaha.com/neb100/player/60

 

"Danny Woodhead doesn’t dwell on not being recruited by Nebraska and why should he?"

 

HAHAHA! An article about Danny Woodhead not getting a scholarship from Callahan doesn't expose anything I said.

 

Solich had already recruited Woodhead to walkon, and if a bunch of blue chips didn't fall into place by signing day, he would have gotten a full ride.

 

Solich did not try to sign Woodhead. An offer to walk-on is different than recruiting him with a scholarship. You get caught again and rather than admitting it you try to move the goalposts again, eh?

 

 

Frank's classss may have been declining from the mid 90s, but it was as good or better than what we've seen since then.

 

Or, Frank was a hell of a head coach.

 

I wonder what percentage of husker nation regrets his firing at this point. I would hope 99.9995%. If less, we still have too many people who will keep Nebraska football in serious trouble during the coming decade.

If Frank was a hell of a coach, then why isn't he in a better job than he currently holds? If he is this world beater coach, then why haven't top programs snatched him up? He's done alright in his current position but I wouldn't say he's set the world on fire.

 

I will say this about Frank, he was a hell of a running backs coach, HC...not so much.

 

He was obviously a helluva lot better than what we have now. That's not even debateable.

 

Actually, it is debateable, hell, it's even debatable.

 

 

 

 

Well, other than the fact that NU beat the team that won the B10E... And don't get me started on an average Florida team playing for an SEC championship.

 

NU has a talented roster.

If some on the board could drop their irrational dislike for the current staff, the answer is kinda simple. The roster is talented and deep in some positions (interior defensive players, wide receivers) and thin and less talented in others (QB, DE, LB). The roster is good in some spots and not so good in others. Does that make it talented or not talented, and how the hell do you decide?

 

According to some Nostradomi on this board roster depth and quality is the fault solely and exclusively of the current staff. I would include the intellectual giant who, in another thread, predicted the current staff will be gone next year.

Pretty simple: with similarly talented rosters, a fired coach won north of .700 of his games here.

 

Only when a coach comes in and lays an egg against a very easy schedule do we hear that the talent isn't there to continue 9+ win seasons. Of course, that's not what was said at the time of the firing last year. And it's not the case today, either.

 

The roster isn't perfect, but it's far better than the results that were wrung out of it.

 

Now cue: we only won last year because of a single player arguments.

 

Talent level under Frank was dropping, anyone who is honest can see that. Same with the last staff. MK III Eyeball Detector.

 

Frank had the #14 class in the country when he was fired, and he likely would've signed Woodhead.

 

Exposed again. You straight up invent crap to try to make a point.

http://dataomaha.com/neb100/player/60

"Danny Woodhead doesn’t dwell on not being recruited by Nebraska and why should he?"