Husker NoNo

First off, there were bad calls both ways. Neb SHOULD be losing at this point. But I have found this particular ref to be a problem. He really likes to insert himself into the game. That pause before stating the outcome of the review is BS. 

On 4/16/2022 at 5:19 PM, hunter49 said:

kool aid anyone?

It's tough, when you look at the last couple seasons (as weird as they were) it feels like we are making progress.  But if you look at the only measure of success that matters, wins and losses, objectively we are worse.   I keep trying to remind myself that this program wasn't broken in 3 years, this was something where there were issues for the better part of 20 years.  The fix wasn't gonna happen overnight, and while it has been painful...gotta keep the faith that the right decisions are being made. 

Proof!  ESPN HATES US! 

Pasch is SUCH a Badger homer. The 15th ranked team in the country is struggling with an unravked 3-7 team and you’d think Wiscy were the underdogs. 

A live look into the Nebraska locker room at halftime. 

I agree that Frost is getting talent, we have a number of great young players on the two deep. But I am arguing that we need a combination of talent AND development.  If things are not better when Frost and company have redshirt Juniors and Seniors on the field with a sprinkling of talented redshirt and true Sophomores and Freshmen on the two deep, I will be right alongside those who are calling for a change to be made.  I just do not think we are ANYWHERE near that being a reality.  Currently the ideal depth chart equation is flipped at Nebraska, and we have little to no depth behind what is listed on the two-deep.

I will be the first to admit that I was wrong in 2003 when I wasn't that upset Solich was let go.  There was a noticeable change in the players we were fielding, we were getting boat-raced by teams, and it didn't seem like things would get any better.  17 years later, I am not so sure the observations of 2001-2003 were wrong...but the decision to move on in 2003 most definitely was.  It created a norm where the Huskers are constantly chasing the past amongst a fan base that has little-to-no patience for building towards the future. 

1-3 (likely to be 1-4) completely sucks. But this is a problem that started 22 years ago when a legend walked off the field for the last time.  There is NO way to fix a problem this large in 2 1/2 recruiting cycles.  Patience people!

We “fix” it by being patient and letting this one play out. I completely agree, it’s bad, but if we keep switching coaching staffs nothing will get better. 
 

Frost has made mistakes which set us back, but unless people believe he doesn’t care...a move would be short-sighted. 

This thread should be empty. 
 

maybe the second half will be better...

Can we bring back Bo as a ref ambassador for the rest of the season?

This is a hope v. expectations game for me.

Hope = The first half decides offense decides to stay all game long.  The d-line consistently stuffs the run. Reimers, Honas, and Domann all contain both the QB run and quick pass to the TE.  42-17 NU.

Expectation = The first half v. second half offense issue continues to be problematic.  The blackshirts continue to have their troubles with mobile quarterbacks, and while the defense largely plays well...one lapse in coverage causes a back breaking big play. 34-28 Illini.

8 hours ago, drfish said:

Cities in the midwest (where COVID is rising significantly compared to the coasts) with large university populations.  Yes, they have football teams.  They also have thousands of students who are more prone to party and ignore prevention recommendations.  This is probably cherry picking data (using the data that support your premise while ignoring the data that do not support it (Americans have become very good at this) and cum hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy (occurring together, therefore there is a causal relationship.  Does anybody REALLY believe that it is due to football teams spreading virus and not irresponsible general college population spreading virus?  If anything, the virus rates in all 5 conferences and the timing of the start of play suggests that the two are not related since the relationship to 1st game played and increases are much different.  Relating COVID spikes to FBS power 5 football is not supported by an initial look at the data.  If it was football related, then the curves in all the conferences should begin at roughly similar intervals from the onset of play.  I would argue that the graph shows the opposite.  There is no consistent relationship between the onset of games in power 5 conferences and the onset of spikes in cases.

I am glad that you have looked into logical fallacies, here are a couple more:

• "This is probably cherry picking data"
  • This is an example of an Ad Hominem fallacy (attacking the person who questions your argument).
• "Does anybody REALLY believe that it is due to football teams spreading virus and not irresponsible general college population spreading virus?"
  • This is an example of an Ad Populum fallacy (why waste time with evidence when "everyone" says it is right?)
• "Relating COVID spikes to FBS power 5 football is not supported by an initial look at the data."
• "If it was football related, then the curves in all the conferences should begin at roughly similar intervals from the onset of play."
  • These are examples of the Hasty Generalization fallacy.
• "There is no consistent relationship between the onset of games in power 5 conferences and the onset of spikes in cases."
  • An example of Ad Ignoratium (appeal to ignorance, if no one here can prove false, it must be true)

1 minute ago, Hilltop said:

Why do we have to make decisions for college age adults?  They are playing by their free will.  They all have the option to opt out with no repercussions.  Those kids WANT to play.  Why should we, or anyone, tell them they can't?  

You are mixing arguments here friend...are they kids or adults?  (Just messing with you). 

I don't disagree that these students want to play and do have free will.  But the option to "opt-out" is never without consequence.  Players who opt out can be seen as selfish and not fully supporting the team-first mentality.   I FIRMLY believe that in many programs, Nebraska included, students could opt-out with little to no consequence...but I don't think that mindset is universal.  I love college athletics, but they simply do not have the same level of protections that professional athletes do.  Our distractions should be coming from the professional ranks this year.  Once we get this COVID crap under control, I will 100% go back to supporting college sports more than the millionaire cry-babies.

24 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

I agree that we can't live in fear, and that we will have to make new risk assessments as we determine how much of our daily lives we can get back to. There's no denying that these shutdowns have all kinds of other negative consequences, including suicides, domestic abuse, and crippling poverty. 

 

But isn't what we're doing "matching the reality of our current situation?"  Virtually every state re-opened, some apparently too big and too early, and many people who made a point about not living in fear insisted on attending large group events without wearing masks, and this attitude appears traceable to current surges in states that largely avoided the first round. 

 

As someone already pointed out, the crisis isn't so much the death count -- troubling as it continues to be -- it has always been the strain on the healthcare system, risking the lives of anyone who needs any kind of hospitalization. My dad was scheduled to be moved to hospice last week, but they gave his bed away because Lincoln hospitals had gone on "code red" and they needed the room for an emergency non-COVID case. That sort of stuff. 

 

I'm all for playing sports and think we should not discount the value of maintaining some normalcy and distraction for the mental health benefits. Most sports are doing a surprisingly good job, but I don't know how college football is going to get past the number of canceled games, infected players and staff,  and the validity of any championship scenario where one conference has played 8 games, another has played 2 and another has played zero. 

This was a well thought-out and argued post.  And while I LOVE everything about college athletics, I am not so sure that they should be the ones we are asking to take on that responsibility.  Let the professional sports be the ones to take the risk since they have the protections of unions, visibility, and team investment.

Red NU 31 - Purple NU 21

Huskers jump to early lead due to more Frost creativity with his offensive tools. Wildcats adjust and close to 3 late in the 3rd quarter.  The TRUE NU scores mid 4th and defense salts it away... 31-21 Big Red!

Or I could be completely wrong....just happy to have a distraction on Saturday.  Here is hoping everyone involved in the game stays safe and healthy.

On 11/3/2020 at 7:27 AM, teachercd said:

Things I have been wrong:

 

Cell phones becoming popular

Internet sticking around

Bo kicking a$$ at LSU

 

I won't tell you my thoughts about the climate...some of your heads will explode. 

I too thought that Bo would have success.  I don't think he is a terrible coach, I just think that he lacked the qualities to be a head coach at a program like Nebraska.

Man I love being a Nebraska fan!

On 10/15/2020 at 5:29 PM, Rochelobe said:

 I don't envy those of you having to try and teach younger kids in that environment.  I do some part time teaching for a community college, and there the expectations are a little different - students aren't required to be in college.  So saying (nicely) "suck it up and put in the effort" is more supported by the college administration.

I'm just getting sick of having to instruct students on how to properly wear a mask in the classroom.  If the fat middle aged guy can wear one all class period, the 18-22 college athlete sure as hell can sit there and wear one.

7 hours ago, ScarletRevival said:

Omaha and Lincoln have been wearing masks for awhile now, and rates are still increasing.

 

Apparently masks aren't the panacea they're made out to be.

Pre-pandemic I was worried about Trump refusing to accept the results on the election and not leaving office.  In recent months his behavior seems to point to him actively searching for ways to make that happen.  This man is the most legitimate constitutional threat coming from the white house since Wilson eliminated free speech, and Lincoln waived habeas corpus.

 

Nice, they get to start their season against the Florida Marlins of College Football.

11 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

I don’t need it to be a cure. I would like to know why dr’s post online videos of their success with the drug, which lines up more with the virology journal findings. 

 

Why do you need it to not be a possible treatment? 

Would this be the doctor in the video that you are referring to? 

 

36 minutes ago, ZRod said:

Most of the Athletes have their communication major classes across the way in Old Father. I remember those classes being a joke. 

As a proud Comm. Studies alumni...how dare you sir!

I could see them winning every game (short of Wisconsin), or losing every game.   It’s gonna be interesting to see how it plays out. 
 

I just hope they beat Iowa. Please beat Iowa...