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Last year, in just the limited amount of time he was out there, Gregory was impressive, and that was him playing unprepared because of the suspension he served. But he was playing on appeal of a year long ban at the time. And when the ban was upheld, back to suspension he went. He wasn't going to eligible to come back until late in the 2017 season. Now I think they go to an indefinite suspension deal where he has to make a case to the commissioner to be reinstated.

It's good bye. But oh, what might have been. As a Dallas fan as well as a Nebraska fan, that just makes me sick.

The weed must be good. Damn good.

Spring summary:

Quarterback is set. Three guys who can throw the ball with confidence and accuracy. Future is bright.

Offensive line? Hard to tell. The game atmosphere will be very different this fall. I get the concerns, but I am Ok with letting it play out into the fall.

RB? Got some guys there with talent. I figure we will play the guy with the moss pass protect and catch out of the backfield skills, but that's this offense's nature.

WR? It will look different this fall. Competition will be good. Young guys need to be ready to go. But I am fairly confident.

Defense as a whole? Can't determine anything there. They didn't show anything, probably because they're not ready to run a lot of the stuff. We will find out this fall, but with a competent passer, I think Nebraska does a better job of moving the sticks and keeping the defense out of bad situations.

I was not confident going into spring ball, but saw a lot from the QB position. We are recruiting better right now. Just keep marching. 10-2 with a possible shot at the conference title would be top end for this team. Look out for Nebraska in 2018 and 2019 though.

Lee/O'Brien = Keller/Ganz

The drama is totally manufactured here. We have heard hype upon hype about Lee. And almost nothing about Patrick, other than Riley likes what he sees. Tanner came here and sat out a year because of a promise to play. If Patrick or Tristian want a turn, they'll have to wait for a Lee injury or two years, whichever comes first. There is a slight chance, underline slight about a dozen times, that Tanner plays so well that he opts for the NFL after year one. In absence of that, he'll be here for two years as the starter. We'll just all hope that he plays well and that the Huskers win. But to think that the QB battle is going to turn any other way is a waste of time.

Maybe Tanner is truly a cut above and should be the starter. We don't know that for sure. And we might not know until fall 2019.

With a new defense and the complications that come with that....

... a new style of quarterback plus replacing a ton of play making studs and teaching the line to block for a guy who stands in the pocket......

... a new special teams strategy and a manner of implementation that hasn't really been tried. i.e. most teams have a special teams coordinator

well, let's just say worst case talk and imaginations of troubles and disappointments... that's easy.

How about a thread that talks about the best case scenario and gives us all reason for hope? I could use one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nebraska Cornhuskers

Is Bob Diaco the key to the Big Ten West?

 

Maybe. He’s that good.

 

Diaco might have struggled as the UConn head coach, but there’s no denying that he’s a whale of a defensive coach and a special defensive coordinator. It’s not like the Huskers were miserable defensively – they finished 30th in the country and improved in almost every area but run defense – but they haven’t been the killer they need to be under Mike Riley. It’s a good D, and it needs to be outstanding.

 

To start, the defensive line has to be better, more aggressive, and more of a factor, and so far in spring ball that’s exactly what it’s been. It’s still early, but be shocked if the Huskers don’t improve on the 26 sacks of last season.

 

With four starters returning in the secondary, there’s room to play around a bit. Chris Jones is a rising star at one corner spot, Joshua Kalu seems like a better fit at safety after working at corner last year, and with the help from the D line providing pressure, watch out for the Nebraska defense to be a bear when the ball is in the air.

 

See the rest of the B1G questions here: http://collegefootballnews.com/2017/17-for-17-key-big-ten-questions

We had 26 sacks last year? More than I would have guessed. This is a very optimistic piece and I'm all for it!

I think hiring Diaco and moving to the 3-4 is the best move of the Riley era so far.

I would argue the mere fact he fired Banker and Reed as the best move. No matter who he hired it would be a big upgrade . I do agree that Diaco could be special here for us.

I'm happy HCMR made the staff changes but at the same time still puzzled on why they were brought here in the first place.

 

Certainly set us behind the 8 ball but there is something to be said about having known commodities around you in an unknown environment. There's no real way to know exactly what he'd need coming into an entirely different environment than Corvallis. You can blame SE for bringing in someone who didn't know what to do instantly, but you can't blame Riley for being methodical about how he built his staff and team. If you make too many massive changes right away like many suggest he should have done, you potentially lose control and make poor decisions. The way he did it was definitely slower, but man has he taken the time to find what seem like the correct pieces.

 

In a win right away world it's hard to accept but I have no problem with his decisions and timeline of getting them done.

 

There is definitely a feeling of momentum with the program since many are hoping that the moves HCMR is making will produce fruit. And we are all ready to see what comes from the addition of a true throwing quarterback to the mix. Lee just keeps getting more and more praise from folks outside the program.

What makes it frustrating ... It was thought Riley brought with him a certain level of knowledge that would make him a hit anywhere in the college football world.

Riley knew coaches and was a hugely respected guy. The coaches didn't come to help him out at OSU because the program was one in which it was very hard, even for the most seasoned and successful coach, to go in and have success. Now that he was coming to Nebraska, it was speculated big name coaches would follow him here.

Then he brought his cronies. So that was bull.

In the recruiting, we were told the same story as with the coaches. Riley's Beavers were on the radar with top flight kids who turned him down because they just couldn't come to an OSU program that had zero in terms of tradition, facilities and player perks like the Huskers Life Skills Department. Now that he was in Lincoln, with great everything and a lot of booster money, the players would come here.

We haven't had a knock you over top 10 class yet.

Now, maybe we are building. The recruiting seems to be trending up. And the coach hire with Diaco might be great. But we thought we would start from this spot, not wait two years and then start. From here, with the improvements, what are we looking at, four or five more seasons before we could be relevant in the big picture? I would have liked to cut that down to three by now.

In a win-now society it's hard to wait. It gets harder to wait if you keep having to re-set the clock.

 

This kind of news just makes me wonder if we actually know what the heck we are doing.

 

We got rid of our special teams coordinator and now we are hiring someone who will advise us about special teams but not be on the staff.

 

There are two positions to have here 1) Our staff had the knowledge to take over special teams without need for a coordinator; or 2) We made the change to show we are willing to make changes.

 

It appears that we were in the second category.

 

When you hire someone because he is a veteran with a great feel and knowledge for the game, you expect him to show up at the door with a great system and a great way of teaching that system. When a coach comes in with a plan, then makes wholesale changes two years later, you realize the original plan sucked. And, if the first plan sucked, what confidence can we have that plan two will be better than plan one?

At least Mike Riley isn't standing pat and staying with what wasn't working, so there's that.

 

Plus, there are many different ways to address a problem and Mike Riley is addressing it in the way he thinks will work and be great for the program.

 

Will it work?

 

But at least he's proactively addressing problems and not insisting he's "...excellent in every area..." and doing nothing.

 

I am happy to see a contradiction in football practices between Mike Riley and Billy C. That's always a positive.

Here's hoping it all works out. And, like everyone here has said before, Mike is a nice guy. If you are a Husker fan, you are pleased with the way he represents the program. He seems to be trying to do whatever he can to be successful. And we are rooting for him.

It's just that sometimes I read something, think..... huh? And then start thinking negatively. I might need aversion therapy for that! LOL

This kind of news just makes me wonder if we actually know what the heck we are doing.

We got rid of our special teams coordinator and now we are hiring someone who will advise us about special teams but not be on the staff.

There are two positions to have here 1) Our staff had the knowledge to take over special teams without need for a coordinator; or 2) We made the change to show we are willing to make changes.

It appears that we were in the second category.

When you hire someone because he is a veteran with a great feel and knowledge for the game, you expect him to show up at the door with a great system and a great way of teaching that system. When a coach comes in with a plan, then makes wholesale changes two years later, you realize the original plan sucked. And, if the first plan sucked, what confidence can we have that plan two will be better than plan one?

Patience? Excuse me, but I am kind of sick of that line. Everyone had the same idea with Bo. Just be patient. Seven years later.... it's bye bye. Same thing with Callahan. Before him ... Solich.

In order for patience to be a real thing, you need results.

Better recruits. A better plan. Better game management. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Results please. And before I am dead in the ground. That would be nice.

It may seem to you all like I am being ultra negative. I am just ultra sick and tired of being disappointed and ultra sick and tired of being lied to.

Mike Riley needs to get this program going in the right direction.

We can't afford to hire a new coach... in more ways than once since we are still paying the previous guy.

I swear to you that I want to see this work, but when you hear the same talk over and over and over again... you start to think, crap, here we go again.

I was convinced prior to last year at Ohio State that our days of getting our doors blown off in a rout where we were non-competitive were over.

That's the kind of disappointment that just makes you shake your head.

All of you guys want to be positive and believe in the rhetoric that's coming out of Nebraska. New coaches, new quarterback. Exciting stuff.

Remember all the great things people said in fall 2015. Then the games started and it was all of a sudden a great big rebuild that required tons of time and an entirely new culture.

There are lots of positive energy about the defense. Are we going to hear later that the terminology and strategy requires time to digest? The passing game is supposed to be great. Are we going to hear about how young they are and that they need more time?

I believed in all the rainbows the first time around. A bit hesitant this time

I am just preparing myself for what is likely going to be a pretty depressing fall.

If we keep the coaches we have at the end of the 2017, then we can avoid the dreaded transition to a new regime and the multiple year transition that comes with it.

I just hope there are positive things to build upon come this time next year. That's about all the sunshine I can offer.

Nine win season? This year?

I am not so sure you can count on that.

Nebraska is going into a very challenging season where 6-6 might be the best it can do. Consider that the Huskers play four tough games (Oregon, Wisconsin, Ohio State and Penn State.) Then there's Iowa and Northwestern that will be at least respectable. Not hard to see a break even season.

Anytime you transition from one thing to another, there's chance that it will go badly. And we are transitioning. This might as well be a new coach with us going from a running QB to a throwing QB, going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 hybrid and coming up with some new approach to the special teams game as well.

We haven't been recruiting especially well. And by that, I mean that there aren't any 5* players or Junior College studs coming to save us.

HuskerMan, you noted that I didn't mention the great new coaches. Diaco coached three years as the head man of the Huskies. Every year he was worse. Last year, he went 3-9 and 1-7 in league play. As a coordinator, Diaco presided over the Notre Dame defense during their run to the national championship game. In that year, the Irish won several games by very close margins, which gave the appearance that maybe they were lucky more than they were good. Alabama confirmed those thoughts in a 42-14 beat down that was never close. Bob Elliott has a lot of coaching experience, but up until Nebraska hired him to coach the safety position, I had not heard much about the dude. He came here because of the connection to Diaco.

Adding a layer to that, even if these coaches are GREAT, why are they just getting here now. We all said that when MR came here he should have brought good coaches with him and not just signaled a mass move from Corvallis to Lincoln simply out of loyalty. But that's exactly what he did. The guys that he fired were not going to be able to do the job. As fans, we figured that out, particularly about Banker, before he ever coached in a game.

It doesn't inspire confidence to have to course correct like this in year three.

Strategy wise, the most annoying comment MR has made was in reference to our running game. It is very telling. The guy said that he doesn't yet know or we haven't yet established, take your pick, Nebraska's identity run. What the heck? This guy has a long coaching resume leading teams in all kind of different leagues and settings from the NCAA to the NFL to the CFL and he doesn't know what the identity run of his offense is. That's a joke.

Most veteran coaches know exactly what their strategies are and wouldn't bend from those strategies. Coaches are just stubborn as heck that way.

Coach Riley tells you what you want to hear and then his team's struggles to perform. His reaction is, "Shucks guys. I thought it was going to work."

Someday those will be the last words he utters as the coach of this program. He's going to say that he gave it his best. And that he wishes the Huskers the best in the future. And then he'll ride off in the sun set leaving us to start over. AGAIN. No fret though, it's only working on 20 years since our program has mattered to anybody outside of the direct fan base. Guess we'll just have to get used to it.

And, lastly, I said I feared we were becoming Kansas. I didn't say we were Kansas yet. If in 10 years, we have goals like, go to a bowl game, then I was right.

After the season ended as sadly as it could have for the Husker men's basketball team, we got good and bad news about Miles and that means both good and bad news about Coach Mike Riley.

After making the NCAA tourney in his second year, the last three seasons could not have gone much worse for Miles. Actually they went worse in each of those years. But SE has stood right by Miles the whole way. It's that positive vibe thing. Don't be a negator or something like that. Good news, no revolving door at the Pinnacle. Bad news.... raise your hand if you think we are going to be significantly better next year. Nobody? Thought so.

Going into 2017 with Husker football, I just can't escape the thought that we are just going to be a mess of a team. Replacing every position of significance on offense and ripping up a defensive plan in favor of a 3-4 that will certainly take time to implement. We need players that fit the system and the players we have on the team now need to figure out how to run the system. Meanwhile. Coach Riley has been waiting and waiting to throw-throw-throw. And he will indeed have a throwing QB. Look for us to use every excuse in the books to throw the ball... because we're too far behind, because the last run was for only three yards, because we have to be balanced and lastly.... the worst... the game got out of control.

Did I mention the special teams should be a mess too? *Sigh*

The bad news in that situation was, I thought, was that Coach Riley would be shown the door for a dismal season of horrid results. We would have to start over with a new coach, would lose a recruiting class and .... well, etc.

Now we have good news from this Miles situation. We know that SE will stand behind Riley after this year. He won't fire him.

The question is when will he fire him. I don't want to start over but the thought of having a bad 2017, followed by a bad 2018 and 2019 makes me wonder if we are slowly becoming Kansas.

And the only way I want to be more like Kansas is if Miles turns the thing around for the basketball team.

From what I have seen, defenses are evolving into using a lot of hybrids.

We used to say that someone was a tweener when they were too small to be a defensive end but too big to play outside backer. The size of the player had a correlation to quickness. The smaller defensive end was quick but struggled against the bigger offensive tackle. The bigger linebacker was a more physical presence that lacked the speed that position required.

Coordinators made players fit the roles they had, they needed certain players at end and tackle. certain players at outside and middle backer, and certain players in the defensive backfield. Get the right fits and you had a good defense.

Now we are seeing a lot of players who are almost glorified safety type guys. The idea is that you walk up guys to the line and make defenses guess what each player is doing while knowing that each defensive player is capable of doing multiple things, i.e. cover, rush or play the run.

From listening to Diaco's intro press conference, I got the feeling that he is very into this hybrid movement. So I am thrown by the idea that he wants to use the 3-4 in a very Bill Parcells type of way. Bill used to talk about the need for bigger and more physical linebackers. But those guys are pretty slow too. I remember our old 5-2 defense of the 1980s. Our guys were big and powerful but were too slow to get to the passer at times, which killed us against teams like Miami who had drop back passers capable of releasing the ball quickly to athletic receivers.

The switch from the 5-2 to the 4-3 and the addition of speed allowed the Huskers to attack the passer. And, well, I think Frank Costa might still be feeling the effects of that switch up.

In the end, I think we are all for a defense that will do two things that we have struggled mightily to accomplish for sometime now. We need to get to the passer quickly and we need to make a hard edge so that jet sweep plays go for something less than 10-15 yards per crack. Alright, I admit that 10-15 per crack on jet sweep might be a little bit of over statement, but those plays definitely worked for our foes through the last two coaching administrations. And the passer has been very comfortable of late as well.

I seem to recall a sack of Blaine Gabbert, maybe by Ciante during which Blaine lowered his head out of reflex to the hit coming in and that caused a helmet to helmet situation. I can't recall if anything was called on that or not, but either way, it should not have been. If an offensive player sees a hit coming, the natural reaction is probably to lower your head just a bit. The defender can't be expected to factor that into how he delivers his hit and tackle attempt.

Amend that a bit. I forgot about Steven Jackson because I kept thinking about

He's the ultimate speed back. Also seems like the kind of guy that you tap him on the shoulder and he goes down. Just saying

Tre or Wilbon will be the man before Ziggy. I like Devine, but the coaches obviously don't. And judging by history, Coach Riley has always preferred the speed back over the power back.

Watched this thread for a while. Spinning away trying to figure out where I think Riley has this program going. It's not an easy question, at least for me.

Do I like the competitive QB room? Dang straight.

Am I concerned about the line play, both sides of the ball, with a lot of solid players but no super stars? Yes. This too.

But would I still like to think the recruiting is getting better every year with Riley? I would.

This is the bottom line. And it's pretty scary to anyone who wants Nebraska to have any chance of making it to big time bowl games and winning league championships....

Riley is almost out of time.

We knew going in that he was an older guy and the chances of him having a long tenure here, beyond 10 or so years, which is a short time really, were remote.

But I am not talking about that kind of running out of time. I am talking about blowing up in the fall, losing between six and eight games and seeing the coach get shown the door.

That is a real possibility, one that we all wish were not true.

But when you change your defensive scheme ... and you have a new QB.... and you have youth on the offensive line ... and you are replacing your main skill people at every position, then, OUCH. Good luck.

I could totally see Riley falling love with the forward pass at Callahan-esq levels this year, especially if he thinks we need to score a lot to make up for struggling defense.

That's not good.

And the idea of firing Riely scares the hell out of me too. Just who the hell would we be able to hire? How long would firing the coach set us back.... 5 years? ....longer?

Got to say I am not looking forward to this season because It could end up being the ugliest and the most depressing football we have ever seen from the Big Red.

I thought we practiced hard... good on good ... that was supposed to make us tougher. He just injured our guys. Does Riley know what he is doing? With his veteran status, in my mind, if that question is asked, the answer is no!

Darlington must play now. Let's see if he can do anything. Even if he sucks, we would at least learn something from this crap. On the QB situation, I feel like Lee has won the job already. You have to create competitive situations constantly at every position. I really believe that they're afraid Darlington might play well and thus make it hard to hand the ball to Lee next fall

I guess the question is really.... how far can Nebraska go this year? The answer, simply, is that we don't know. Coach Riley came here from Oregon State with many doubting that he would succeed. I was one of the doubters really, given his probable pro style passing system. I am not willing to say its working now. I am not willing to say it isn't working or will never work.

This is all TBD. We won't know if MR's system will work until we've seen it with a passing QB. We have seen the staff adjust in year two and provide more chances for our talent to succeed now as we recruit with great effort in the hopes of getting great results. Again, TBD.

The team is 5-0. And we got a win over a talented Oregon team. They had the ability to strike anywhere at any time. We got past that. Maybe the Ducks have quit now. That's not our fault. Remember that we won five games all of the last regular season. So I would say we have done as well as we could have so far.

If we played Michigan tomorrow in a championship style setting, I wouldn't like our chances. But we won't play them tomorrow. We might not play them at all this year. Seasons evolve. Circumstances change. We can only worry about Indiana now. And they deserve respect from our guys in preparation and from the fans by not assuming victory. I am not saying we will win for sure. We certainly will have a great chance. If we lose, the season won't end. Hopefully the guys would fight hard going forward and learn from it.

Once this is over, we will have work to do with Purdue. They beat Illinois. And we know that we had a good game against Illinois. Purdue will come in confident after having beaten us at their place last year. So, its a week at a time. We don't even know for sure what Purdue will look like in two weeks, let alone Wisconsin in three or Ohio State in four.

Let it play out and don't count the Huskers out. That's my mantra. Let's just see how far this goes and do our best to enjoy it.

In some ways its refreshing. Look at it this way. If we were Alabama or Ohio State, nothing but the Natty itself would do as the prize. We are 5-0 and already playing with house money, at least to a minor extent. I hope our guys have fun. I know I will have fun knowing that whatever the Huskers do from here on in.. it's going to be better than what we had a season ago.

 

He in in effect saying that Riley is lying about running wanting to run the ball more. He says we are all fearing this will happen. We are not! I stand by it, a pathetic post It could very well be that Newby ahead of Devine is a tip of the hat toward the pass over the run.​

Nah, based on last year's pre-season speak and in season results, his premise is solid. Your assertion that people are saying that "Riley is secretly plotting to fail" is absurd.

 

Mike Riley's offensive systems are built around the pass. The rush is secondary. If the pass works, the rush adds to your offensive weapons. If the pass doesn't work, you get behind the sticks and you have to pass more. If you do it long enough and get behind on the scoreboard, you have to pass to catch up. Pass first coaches often say, as Billy C. did, "Well, once we got behind, we had to pass and so the numbers got out of whack."

Trouble is that you don't have to pass when Nebraska is trailing 17-7 in the middle of the second quarter.

It is the feeling of a lot of Husker observers that a solid ground game would set the stage for a more efficient pass game. Not the other way around.

Devine not being at the top of the depth chart, possibly because Newby can pass pro better than Devine, could be a tip toward that pass game.

To be fair, it could also be an indicator that Newby has taken control at RB and is ready for a break out season.

Last year, we were told that the run would be featured and that Tommy's ability to hurt defenses with his feet would be a great addition to Mike's system as a luxury he didn't ever have before.

When the season got going, Mike tended to lean on the pass more than the run. Because that is what he is comfortable with.

A guy can have a bad plan. He can fail. And that doesn't mean he wants to do it or is plotting to do it. The coach can simply believe his plan will work when evidence suggests it won't.

 

 

 

Little shocked that Newby is listed ahead of Ozigbo and without the "Or".

Riley and Langsdorf will always go with the RB who is best in the pass game. Ozigbo may end up with more carries this year or may end up being the #1 guy later this season, but Riley and Langsdorf want that versatility at RB.

 

From what I saw last year from running and catching. Gimme Ozigbo

 

I would also rather have Ozigbo, but we aren't Riley or Langsdorf. They have different thoughts on the RB position that most of us on this board.

 

We are going to be a run-based offense. Right? I mean you bring in a tight end and a fullback. And then you play tight to the LOS and use play action fakes to create time for the QB in the pass game. You don't need to have backs help on the rush as much in that circumstance. Unless Riley is full of it and plans to abandon the run and pass it all the time.

That's what we are all fearing. Let's face facts.

It could very well be that Newby ahead of Devine is a tip of the hat toward the pass over the run.

Great punter. He will be missed by the team greatly this year. We all know how invaluable a great punter like Sam can be.

Obviously his loss will be felt off the field much, much MUCH more.

Surprise, surprise .... the fate of the team will depend on defense as much as it does QB.

The linebacker and defensive back corps are the concern for the defense. We were facing a rebuild with the LBs last year. Plus side, I saw some definite LB development and some coaching ability from Riley and Banker that provided protection for those guys as they found their way.

Now, considering the exodus from DL, we need to develop more there and recruit more.

The LBs and line work hand in hand really. A good defensive line, when playing aggressively, creates play making chances for the LBs. If your LBs aren't that good, a strong but conservative Dline will allow the linebackers to flow toward the play without worrying that a mistaken assignment leads to a long TD run. Now that the line is weaker, or at least potentially weaker than what it was, the linebackers will have to read and fill with an aggressive mind set to clog up holes, make plays, and, at times might be asked to challenge offensive linemen directly... tough job there.

Offensively, we are putting a bow on the TA era at the QB spot.

We have a couple QBs on campus and one on the way. Maybe we can get a good passing QB in the next few years as we settle in and develop the other guys on offense.

Through that development, an offensive style will emerge.

With projects on both sides of the ball, however, the important thing will be to manage the game now and get as many wins as possible so that the recruiting can keep getting better.

Best projection has us contending for a conference title in three or four years.

At worst, we lose too many, fire the AD and coach and have this discussion all over again in two ....three years tops.

Like many of you, I am hoping for improvement. And maybe 7-5 is just me shooting low so that the Huskers can't do anything but exceed expectations.

At the same time, I wonder what Oregon will bring to the table. They have good to great athletes and an ability to spread a defense apart and exploit weak links by staging certain match up issues and getting you out of sorts with fast paced action.

We know Northwestern has been a tough place to play. And Madison has too.

And the Buckeyes reload with studs every year.

Maybe Iowa is that swing game where we win, get to eight wins and then shoot for nine in the bowl. Iowa may be decent this year or they may stink. It's hard to tell how that program is going to react to the success they enjoyed in 2015. All I can go by, and the reason why I fear loss, is that it took OT for Armstrong to beat the Hawks in Iowa City in 2014.

None the less, my main concern with this Husker team is that we generate enough momentum, both on the field and in recruiting, to keep people, we are talking about the booster and big names behind the scenes, to continue to believe in MR.

I do not want to start over until we know that MR had his shot and it didn't work. Judging by some of the momentum that's being created in recruiting, the Huskers could be ready to explode onto the national scene in the next three to four years.

This season has me worriedl, but the future has me hopeful.

With the Oregon and Wyoming game times announced, I again RE-visited the schedule and prospects for wins-losses.

Getting the feeling that we open 2-0 with easy wins over Fresno and Wyo, then run into a buzz saw against the Ducks and get nipped in a game at NW. After scoring three pretty easy conference wins to go 5-2, we lose in a heartbreaking decision to Whisky and run into another buzz saw vs tOSU. Now at 5-4, we get bowl eligible with back to back wins and then lose a tough one to the Hawks.

So there it is 7-5. How's everybody feel about that?