Jump to content


Lava

Members
  • Posts

    218
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    2

Posts posted by Lava

  1.  

    yeah, personally, i would prefer and do not think the few bad apples are enough of a deterrent. but i will not lose sleep if they continue to prohibit alcohol. it is a dry campus and perhaps we should draw the line here since this is a college activity.

     

    That, and I'd rather spend $15 sharing a 12-pack of Samuel Adams Seasonal with a couple of friends at a tailgate than spending that same $15 to buy two cups of flat Bud Light in the stadium.

     

     

    Why not both? ;)

     

    Really though, it's not like you have to choose one or the other.

  2. According to a Forbes.com report, the Nebraska Cornhuskers are valued at $80 million, making them the nation’s 10th most valuable college football team. Forbes cites revenue of $56 million for Nebraska, as well as $35 million in profits. The placement is one spot higher than the team’s finish on the 2012 list, when NU was 11th with lower revenue ($55 million) but a higher value ($82 million) and profits ($36 million). http://sports.omaha....valuable-teams/ So divide that by scholarship players.

     

     

    So you would just toss money to players that haven’t even seen the field yet. How much $$$ did UNL make off of jerseys that had no name stenciled on them or shirts that had nothing to do with players names or likeness but you would just hand them this money. Since none of the players provided any funding for start-up cost, shipping, advertisement or compensation for the use of the UN logo or name. Would the university be within their rights to charge them for all of this plus handling and sales for these shirts?

     

    There's already a model out there that answers all these questions in professional league jersey sales.

  3. You have to stop thinking how much it's costing you to attend UNL, but how much money is made off the football player for UNL versus their cost. That's why they would like more and should get more.

     

    No, I don't. How much it costs to attend UNL should be included in the talk because that is part of what they are receiving by playing for the Huskers. And I think what should be mentioned that hasn't been talked about (except maybe once by MOHusker) is the fact that athletes generate revenue not necessarily profit

     

    They absolutely generate profit at Nebraska. According to Forbes, the football team generated $35 million in profit last year. Sure, much of that went to subsidize other sports within the athletic department. However, according to USA Today, even after all expenses, the athletic department has turned a profit every year from 2005-2012.

     

    Numbers in millions

    Year...Rev...Exp...Profit

    2012 - 81.6-77.0 = $4.6

    2011 - 83.7-81.9 = $1.8

    2010 - 73.5-71.7 = $1.8

    2009 - 74.9-70.5 = $4.4

    2008 - 75.5-75.0 = $0.5

    2007 - 70.8-65.4 = $5.4

    2006 - 63.7-61.7 = $2.0

    2005 - 55.9-55.7 = $0.2

     

    Sure, this isn't the case at every school. Far from it. But to say that they don't generate profit is nothing more than a false statement.

  4. Supply and demand and the prices/costs involved are not based on what someone deserves. Lots of employees provide value to an employer in excess to what they are paid, but if there is a large supply of employees waiting to do that job, the employee who may deserve more is not going to get paid more.

     

    In college football, there are tons and tons of players out there who would love a scholarship. If you are going purely on economic forces, programs can survive and still put a good football product on the field because players are willing to do the work in excahnge for a scholarship, or even less than that if you are a walk-on. From a profitability standpoint, not every athletic program is profitable, so if we start paying players, many programs will have to fold.

     

    An athletic scholarship and the perks that come with it are more than enough to cover what a player both needs and deserves. As far as the deserving part, if a player is a superstar and can take their marketable skill to the NFL, their college experience will have given them that opportunity that they might not have otherwise had. If a player cannot survive on the perks of a scholarship alone, or they think they can get better scratch elsewhere, they can certainly leave and do something else. That's the market at work for you, right there.

     

     

    In regards to this statement, what do you say to players such as Eric Crouch or Colin Klein who provide value that far exceeds the scholarship they receive in college but have skillsets that don't translate to the professional game?

     

    And in regards to the college experience providing opportunities they might not have otherwise had, that's certainly true. However, that doesn't mean that they haven't earned more money than the scholarship covers. Think of it like this - if you're working at a job that's providing you opportunities to develop skills that will allow you to obtain a higher paying job elsewhere down the road, does that mean that you don't deserve to be compensated by your current employer? Or that your salary provided by your current employer should be capped?

  5. The biggest misconception in this whole debate is that the players should only care about what they need. This debate should really be about what they deserve. Everyone in the US could survive on a $20,000/year salary - that's all they need. However, because people have skillsets that allow them to generate revenue in excess of that amount, they are compensated with money above and beyond what they need; that is, they are paid what the deserve based on the economic value they provide to their employer.

     

    What someone needs is irrelevant when determining the compensation they receive for the work they put in. You pay them what they deserve based upon the supply and demand forces in the economy. Bringing that back to how college football players should be compensated at Nebraska, it's clear that they've earned more than they currently receive. This is easily demonstrated by looking at the profit generated by the football program, as well as the athletic department as a whole. If college athletics were allowed to be a truly free market, there is no doubt that the football players at Nebraska would earn more than the scholarships they currently receive. However, of course, when the NCAA and other institutions must be considered and that's when things get complicated.

     

    In summary, I encourage you all to think not of what the players need, but what they have earned and deserve based upon the value generated by the work they do.

     

     

    Why should they have to? College athletics are a billion dollar industry. Plenty of money right there.

    And you think all that money is just pocketed? You know they spend money to make the players wanna be there too right? Whether it's facilities, coaches players want, other sports that aren't as popular to watch and root for but are just as important. The money is needed (not all, mind you. But then again the players already get excess from beyond just their tuition) to keep the university going. So basically just because person A is more athletically gifted than person B, that person A deserves more and person B should have to work twice as hard to stay afloat in college only to be in massive debt once they're done? Talk about labeling. Who knew genes still dictate someone's place in the world....

     

    Glad to see you've discovered how capitalism works. If you don't like it, perhaps the United States isn't the place for you.

  6. Whether he was coming to Nebraska or not, this is a very unfortunate situation. Hope this young man gets some positive influences in his circle.

    Honestly, he needs to pick a school 1000 miles away, and get away from the neighborhood influences he has now.

    Usually that doesn't help, it usually causes an even steeper downward slope in behavior

     

    Worked out okay for Roy Helu.

  7. L.Joshua Frazier@JoshuaFrazier99 2 Aug

    Got my 10th offer from Nebraska just now. #Cornhuskers WOOOOT!!!

     

    I'm surprised he only has 10 offers, though most are pretty respectable programs. He had Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Texas A&M, and Notre Dame in his top 5. With the new offer, Nebraska is now in his top 6.

     

     

    Have to believe we're in his top 5 if the quote below is true. Wonder who we bumped out.

     

    Told Rivals that Nebraska will definitely be getting one of his 5 official visits this fall. He is easily a top 10 high school DT so this is quite the big deal. Says he really enjoys his relationship with John Papuchis.

×
×
  • Create New...