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f#&%!  

2 minutes ago, Undone said:

 

shouldn't his name indicate a non-response? 

17 minutes ago, Toe said:

 

A few years ago, either Frost's first or second class, there was a thread on here where we rated the recruiting class by position. Even back then, I felt that pass rushing OLBs were the #1 thing our roster lacked. That class didn't bring much help in that department, so I gave it an F for OLBs. Frankly, I wouldn't rate the subsequent classes a whole lot higher than that - we've had WAY too many misses there.

Such a small pool of elite talent isn’t it. The last one I can think of is Gregory, and he was a juco.  I am surprised we can’t at least find one every two years, but here we are.  
 

I came back here to edit my response, Gregory was obviously not a OLB.

1 minute ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

Who cares?

i.e. I don't know. Probably evidence they aren't as good. I trust the coaches to know more. They aren't infallible but this question gets asked about everyone. It might be some of our starters just aren't that good, but still better than the backups.

It was great chatting with you.  #nos#!tcoachesknowmorethanwedo

2 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Miller is better than Barry.  Barry is one of the worst starters NU has had.

 

On the "Play they guys with talent even if they are not doing things that are expected of them"

 

I agree...play them.  I will say this though, I had one team with two really good players and I gave them a ton of room to d!(k around, to skip practice because they were "hurt" and s#!t like that...I still played them because they were my two best players...

 

And you know what, we sucked a$$ that year.  So while I wanted them to play because they were me best players...I probably made a big mistake.

 

Also, one was an a$$h@!e and the other I actually liked.

Miller did have a few good plays, but yes he is not very fast.  If healthy, would Reimer be his backup?  

9 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

He's better than his backup.

 

  

 

He was better than his backup.

Who is his backup?  

22 minutes ago, B.B. Hemingway said:

Also, Casey Rogers. I heard his name mentioned very little throughout the lead up to the season, and he was very impressive yesterday. A bright future on the D-Line with him, and Ty Robinson.

I re-watched the game today, and I did look closer at both Ty and Casey.  I am very impressed with what I saw, they are strong, long, quick and athletic.  Physically, they don't carry any bad weight, these guys are going to be really good.  Additionally, they were doing this against one of if not the best offensive lines in the county. 

Now we need to go recruit two rush ends.  I am looking for someone that is anywhere between or exactly like Gregory or Wistrom. 

19 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

That's the issue with Mills as the main RB.  NU needs to try and feature more north-south running with Mills, and less east-west, but NU can't also be predictable with Mills in the game.  Against Ohio State, it looked like NU was trying to get to the edge with the running game and quick passes to Wandale, and then counter-attack with QB runs up the middle and passes to the TE's over the middle.  Mills struggles in getting to the edge.  I did like his using him as the fullback in the I-formation.  He was used that way at Ga Tech, and is a wrinkle which NU can use a few times a game.

exactly

22 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

I mean ... if it was the offense others would have had the same problem.  But Thompkins was basically twice as productive.  It's pretty hard to make a distinction between a "predictable" run and "he's really best running straight ahead so we're going to do that on first down and see what we get".  Chicken and the egg.

Are you feeling argumentative today?   I basically agree with you, I just stated that I liked what I saw at the end of the year from Mills and I am happy we have both.  

6 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

It's unfortunate and frustrating that guys like Houston and Nance are turning out to be non-contributors.  I applaud the staff for recognizing this and currently have 3 big-bodied receivers committed in the '21 class.  The staff is also being creative with moving Hickman to WR, and following up by recruiting 3 tight ends in the '21 class, although the kid from Prep could end up moving to DE down the road.

Did you catch Klatts statement about Kade Warner?  He said something on the lines that he is our best receiver, I remember saying out loud, “god no”!  I do think Kade is a good player , and he will benefit from injecting more talent and speed on the field, but he better not be our best receiver.  

1 hour ago, Mavric said:

 

I've been pretty leary of Mills all off-season.  People were talking about 1000 yard seasons and who would be next in line behind him but I didn't see it.  He's a solid back but lack explosiveness.  He'll have a role but I think others start taking his carries.

 

Pretty much what we saw yesterday.  He averaged 2.8 ypc.  Thompkins averaged 5.5.  Thompkins out-yarded him on roughly half as many touches.  It's only one game but I don't think that's an accident.

I think Mills game was hampered by the inconsistency of the offense yesterday.  If I remember correctly, most of his runs where predictable play calls and the defense was all over him quickly.  I do agree that Thompkins will get more touches, and he should.  I just keep going back to the Wisconsin and Iowa game where Mills was outstanding.  It’s great to have them both.

13 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

The reasons that the talent that Ohio State, Clemson, Alabama, and other top programs are getting is so good is because they have amazing physical abilities, but also great football acumen.  Those programs also have their culture established.

 

Now, NU has to take chances on guys who may be uber-talented, but have fallen down out of favor with the top teams for a variety of reasons.  Everyone loved Zavier Betts' athleticism, but he was known to have grade issues in high school, and there could be problems grasping the offense at NU.  There are different reasons why kids end up at JUCO's, but many of them are there because they were at a D-1 program and did something to get booted or forced to leave the team.  Some kids learn from that experience and get better from it (see Dedrick Mills).  A lot of kids never mature and are still knuckleheads coming out of JUCO.  I don't watch Last Chance U anymore, but the 2 or 3 seasons I did, I was amazed at the immaturity of those kids on that show.

I have had this exact discussion a thousand times with my friends that are fans but don’t follow recruiting closely.  We have to pull out all the stops to get a guy like Wan’Dale, whom I love, but Ohio State gets multiple Wandales.  Washington, Manning and Betts are probably as talented anyone out there, but as you mentioned above, can be a risk, of course Washington is gone.   Hopefully, it starts to work itself out and the talent starts to rise as the season progresses.  
 

One other frustrating observation.  I think it was Arkansas State in Frosts first year. I remember noticing that they had more talent at the defensive end and taller,  more athletic receivers , just frustrating.  
 

i feel going forward, Nebraska will stay focused on offensive line recruitment.  We will always be able to find talented interior defensive lineman, linebackers, running backs and defensive backs, but tall athletic defensive ends and elite speed receivers with length are just hard to find and get.  

11 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said:

I hope we can put the ESPN headline, "Day sorry for not kneeling as OSU rolls Nebraska" on a bulletin board somewhere. That's a straight kick to the nuts.

I think Day meant well, but he really shouldn’t have anything, because is reads freekn horrible.  

4 minutes ago, UniversalMartin said:

This had a 42-20 feel more than what it was...dont really get why that makes me feel better

You could even say 42-28, those mistakes and s#!tty calls were devastating.  

39 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said:

Plz lord, I wanna see what we have here. Find someone that can get separation. 

so much this!  Its not like we are dealing with a bunch of walk-ons at that position, there are four freekn four star receivers from last years class.  How can Ohio State have freshman receivers making plays, and we just cant seem to get anyone close to Stanley Morgan.  I know, I know I sound like a broken record.

Now for something positive, how good does Ty Robinson look!  That is a man right there, and he's a redshirt freshman.  We are looking at a B10 first team next year I bet.  Actually, nice game by the DLine as a whole. 

19 minutes ago, Stumpy1 said:

Why?  So they could sit on the bench also?

No, they would play, but we wouldn't throw to them.  

13 minutes ago, jaws said:

Targeting is ruining the game. Kicking kids out of a game for a borderline call is stupid and it is changing the outcome of some games as well as the following game.

 

Nebraska was a lot more physical this year. They need to be able to throw the ball down the field.

 

If Ohio State can't find a RB that can run the ball, they aren't going to win a NC. The freshman WRs are going to be very good. 

 

 

 

 

They have like fifty receivers, can they just give us two?  

We are getting better. 

5 minutes ago, knapplc said:

We're moving the ball on them, we just can't get out of our own way.

 

Imagine what this team could do with a WR threat or two.

Man I hope Manning is ready next week, because if we can stretch the field this offence is going to be very good.

2 minutes ago, lo country said:

Need Betts and Manning BADLY.

Absolutely!  We need to keep them guessing, and crowding the line.  No deep threat is going to kill us

Listen very carefully, f#&% the badgers!  

Its taken me a long time, but I rarely, if ever, read or watch a national program review or discuss Nebraska Football.  I find much more enjoyment coming here and discussing our future and giving each other s#!t about stuff.    

13 minutes ago, Farms said:

What worries me is how desperate we were at the position last year and neither Houston or Nance sniffed the field.  Also I don't think I've heard either one of their names mentioned by any coaches.

I don't like to bash any young men playing college football, but I am making the assumption that these guys are not going to make it on the field.  Last year would have been an opportune time to show something, anything.   Now there may be more to their issues than we are seeing, but with the talent that came in last year, not sure if time is on their side.  If we can consistently recruit in the top 10-20 range, there will always be a few of 4* guys not making it.  I do wish them luck though.  

16 minutes ago, WyoHusker56 said:

Man our WR depth is still an issue. That's going to take another year or two to fix I guess, but we seem to have some recruits committed that should help. We've had a lot of misses at that position really need to hit on the guys we've got and some new recruits.

I hear you, but I feel it could happen faster than you think.  You could make the argument 2020 was Nebraska's best Receiver recruiting class ever.  I like how we are mixing it up with speed guys and size guys.  Its going to be fun to watch. 

2020

Flemming  5'11 Slot/WR   4*

Betts          6'3    WR           4*

Nixon         5'11  Slot/WR   3*

Brown        5'11  WR           3* (probably should have been a 4*)

Manning    6'4    WR           4*

2021

Grimes      6'2     WR           4*

Hardy        6'3      WR           3*

Neville      6'4       WR          3*

Fidone      6'5       TE           4*      (had to add this guy, because he is going to play everywhere)

5 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

I have the same concerns you do about the starters at WR.    They seem like solid kids, but they don't seem like difference makers.  That's why I think NU goes more 12 personnel (1 RB, 2 TE, 2 WR) so one of the X, Y, or R receivers are "off the field".  With Ohio State playing more zone defense last year (and likely this year) maybe NU will be better off with guys who can understand the defense and get in the right spots for AM to find them.

Since we have accepted that Manning wont play, can you imagine how much all of us will freak out if he takes the field on the first snap and makes a play?