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  1. The Big Ten more resembles the Big 8 than the Big XII ever did. So yes, we belong here, and it feels great to be here.

     

    Academically as well as athletically, this was a home run for Nebraska.

     

    WVU can think what they want to think today. They can ask Colorado Fan what it's like being in a conference with Texas, and why they left. They can ask us the same question. They can ask Arkansas, who used to have a great rivalry with Texas, but who doesn't want ANYTHING to do with Texas anymore. At all. Ask WVU Fan what they think of the Big XII in two years. They will be singing a very different tune, guaranteed.

     

    You can ask Texas A&M & Missouri too.

     

    Glad we are leaving the BIG12, but will miss the tournament games in KC.

  2. Previously Pinkel suspended two players for two games this summer for DUI. Radio down says it was only one game because Pinkel wants to hang 70 points on KU because KU won't play MU after they go to SEC

     

    I think we could hang 70 on KU just as easily without Pinkel. He didn't even seem drunk in the arrest vid posted on youtube. Mu is graduating 20+ seniors this year and Pinkel won't be on the sidelines with them on Senior day. That and 300K in penalties is more than enough punishment IMO.

  3. I recall debating this same issue when MU was a B10 hopeful. I think this was a bigger deal for us because MU is probably more dependent on Texas recruits than any other Non-Texas school. Most thought MU's relationship with HS coaching staffs in Texas trumped conference affiliation. The same is true for Nebraska. Win on the field and your relationships you've already established in Texas will continue to bear fruit.

     

    I'll also mention though that while MU was flirting with the B10 it was never discussed that the B12 would change to a round-robin schedule after the realignment. I'm not saying the schedule change hurts other teams outside the B12 much, but playing a minimum of four Texas teams a year certain helps MU a little with recruiting.

  4. I can't speak for all fan bases but I haven't seen a single thread or statement from a MU fan regarding this particular dilemma. Tiger fans are more concerned as to who is going to replace Nebraska as the most anticipated football matchup. Nebraska will do well this year. The Wisconsin game is going to be one of the highlights of the 2011 CFB season. Martinez will be a lot more fun to watch now that he is in a different conference.

  5. You're missing the point. By all previous standards, Nebraska was the easy pick over Missouri. They bring way more fans and everyone in Iowa and nationally was more intrigued by the Big 10 preview game than Iowa-Missouri. The Big 12 stepped in and changed the outcome and that's what people are angry about. Yes everyone agrees we should have handled our business and won the CCG, but we didn't and now we deserve the Alamo or the Insight for what we did accomplish (North champions, 10 wins, handled Missouri) and certainly not the Holiday bowl.

     

     

    I'm not sure why Nebraska got picked over but I'm glad it happened. The MU fanbase is pumped and will most likely sell out their allotment. If I was the one picking bowl games I would have switched aTm and NE, but kept MU where they are. I think that would have made for much better games.

  6. Are you sure they weren't hoisting up the Lamar Hunt Trophy? That's what the winner of the "Border War" wins.

    I'm positive the Lamar Hunt trophy goes to the AFC Champions.

     

    The winner of the border war receives the indian war drum.

     

     

    They get the Indian War Druma and the Lamar Hunt Trophy (obviously a different one). The LHT is a more recent trophy designed after the death of Lamar Hunt, whose idea it was for MU/KU to be played in Arrowhead.

  7. The tie breaker determines who plays in the championship game, not who is actually champion.

     

    It's always been this way. Even in the BIG 8. It's not a good thing. I know MU wasn't happy about sharing the championship with Nebraska in 69'. But we had the tie breaker and went to the Orange Bowl that year.

  8. Because I'm the worst procrastinator in the world (meaning that I don't find very "fun" things to do while I'm putting other work off), I just finished keying in each team's # of penalties in each game in a 12 x 12 matrix. I'm trying to find the best way to do a real analysis with the data set this way. The first goof around I did was finding the average number of penalties called against teams' opponents.

    BU 7.25

    CU 7.29

    ISU 5.25

    KU 7.14

    KSU 6.38

    MU 5.57

    NU 4.14

    OK 8.57

    OSU 7.00

    UT 7.14

    TAM 7.57

    TT 7.63

     

    Again, these are not these teams' average penalties per game, but the average number of penalties called against their opponents. No analysis yet...

     

    Edited for more precise numbers.

     

    If you were to sort this list by least to most, you'll notice that NORTH teams are all on top (least amount of help from the Refs). I'm not sure what this means, if anything, but it is interesting.

  9. Well what had me scared to death before the game happened. That MU wouldnt come to play right away and little mistakes would to TD's. Nebraska played great and i wish mu would have been on their game as well. The way it played out it would have been a great game.

    :yeah

     

    I still had a really good experience in Lincoln and I loved the stadium/atmosphere. When a game starts off that poorly there really isn't much to hope for the rest of the game. So that was a dissapointment.

     

    Our defense seemed to revert back to it's old self. Nebraska played really well on both sides of the ball. To top it off they nearly completely dominated special teams. In fact I think if Helu hadn't had such a huge day the story of the game would have been how Nebraska won because they consistently had better field position.

     

    Congrats Nebraksa and good luck the rest of the season.

  10. Gabbert had a poor game but his effort was the best I've seen. Those corner blitzes were devastating. Much credit goes to the blackshirts. Gabberts will be in the ice tube all week, but he never gave up.

  11. We'll have made ten years of memories in the Big 10, Missouri might be in the Mountain West conference, and there will be no reason for Nebraska/Missouri fans to interact ever again.

     

    You are the second person on this thread to say that Husker and Tigers fans will disolve all relations after this game. Are you from some really small town in Nebraska? I live in Shawnee, KS. I know a dozen NE fans personally. Co-workers, neighbors, my wife's best friend. I'm not going to talk to them about CFB anymore? Well, I guess that could be the case if MU loses. <_< My next door neighbor is a Hawkeye, I talk to him about CFB all the time even though our teams are in different conferences.

  12. but it will be said and it will be said often.

    ...So?

     

    No offense, but I have yet to meet a Nebraska fan that really cares what others think of why we are leaving the conference or what those in the Big XII will say after. You seem to think we care when we really don't.

     

    If we lose (which is definitely a possibility, MU is looking good), Missouri will have bragging rights. Yay...who cares besides Missouri? Nobody. Texas already has bragging rights...who cares beyond Texas? Nobody.

     

    You won't let us forget by, what, coming to a message board for a team that is no longer even in your conference? Or you'll randomly drive up to Nebraska just to gloat? If the second is the case, thanks for the influx of money into our state's economy.

     

    I'm genuinely curious how you're never going to let us forget.

     

    We are going to flood your mailboxes with letters every Halloween.

     

    Obviously if you never speak to a MU fan about football again it wouldn't be an issue. After everything Knapp has had to say I wouldn't doubt if that was the case; since most CB fans don't consider us a program yet. It's too depressing to think about actually. I'm out.

  13. KNOW YOUR PLACE! This is the sad reality of Missouri football - even if you beat us, even if you win the conference, even if you go on to a swell BCS game and win that, even if ALL of that happens, nationally you'll still be a side story. Sure, you'll get some pub for a while - Cincy did last year, too - but after bowl season and we move on, your role in this will be ignored. Why? Because you're not a national powerhouse. You're not one of the Pillars of College Football. You're a bit-player, not a marquee headliner.

     

    It has never been more clear what MUs place is then right now. We just knocked off a number one, set a Gameday attendance record, huge TV ratings in STL/KC and are the number 2 team according Jeff Saragin's ratings. Still we are 7+ pt dogs this Saturday and only a handful of the respectable media think we can win. Is that because Nebraska really is that much more impressive this year or because of your history? What does MU have to do to be relevant in your opinion? Win a MNC and get a Heisman winner? If they did both in the next five years would you consider them worthy of the marquee? Or would their pitifull performance in the 70s, 80s and 90s still taint them? I guess I shouldn't be surprised that a win tomorrow wouldn't change a thing.

  14. I'm not really sure I got my point across as well as I'd liked with this thread. I thought of an analogy that may help. If a book were to be written about all the craziness of the conference realignment of 2010, I don't think a MU loss to NE would even be mentioned. I believe a MU win over NE would dominate most of the final chapter.

     

    Really Nebraska fans should take it as a compliment (just as DJR313 expressed). Nebraska beating Missouri really isn't news at a national level. Missouri handing NE a final loss on their way out will open up so many questions.

  15. so you will the same for CU right? They were the first to leave... also didn't the whole thing get started by MU's president lobbying for the Big 10 in the first place? But think what you want, in 10 years everyone will say NU left the Big 12 because Mizzou beat them the couple of years. Ok got it. :thumbs Since the Big 12 start, Mizzou has rode the coat tails of NU, CU and KSU, but for the last few years they have had their turn, but there is one thing the previous 3 have in common that Mizzou does not.

     

    Nobody cares about CU in Missouri. Honestly I had forgotten they were even leaving. I think I recall a post or two containing a sentiment that it was nice we shut them out for the last time. In general though no one really took notice. If they were a Pre-Season Top 10 it would have been different.

     

    Actually it was the Gov of Missouri that first started headlines by bascially pimping MU to the BIG Ten in a press conference. After that it got out of control.

  16. I'm no Nostradamus, I'm just taking my best guess about what will be said. My next guess is that after MU wins tomorrow you all are going to be thanking me for letting you prepare your defenses in advance. :)

    I suspect, win or lose, we (the Husker fans) will be here. But only in one of those scenarios will Mizzou fans show up (and probably a lot more than are here now) except for the honored few that we see here all year.

     

    I suspect Mizzou will lose about 75% of its support after the loss tomorrow, at least until next fall.

     

    Honored or not, I'll be here Sunday to give my analysis of the game....regardless of the outcome.

  17. If Nebraska wins tomorrow I believe this game becomes somewhat forgettable. Nebraska will have bragging rights over MU, which they have always had anyway. Nebraska almost certainly goes to the CCG which will be a great transition statement. However, overtime I don't think people will remember beating MU as the key that got NE into the CCG.

     

    If Nebraska loses, this game will be remembered forever. MU will not let you forget. The BIG12 will not let you forget. Nebraska's entire motivation for leaving the BIG12 will be put in doubt. People will say you left because you couldn't win the conference anymore. Missouri had won the North 3 of last 4 years. Nebraska had only been to the CCG twice in the last decade and had lost both times. It was becoming increasingly obvious that NE was MU's b*tch. Etc, etc. Of course that is all hyperbole.....but it will be said and it will be said often.

     

    Just some food for thought. No pressure tomorrow guys.

  18. Can NU keep Aldon out of the backfield? No you can't. But I don't expect to see him back there too much. It doesn't do Aldon any good to get back there by himself because T-Mart is too athletic. They'd risk T-Mart exploding past the rusher for a huge gain. Aldon and the rest of the D-line will be staying in their lanes to keep T-Mart in front and making him beat them with his arm.

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    “It always feels good when you hear somebody feel the pain,” he said another time.

     

     

     

    I cannot wait for our Missouri friends to vilify Smith for this statement, in much the same way they have vilified Martin for his hit.

     

    He wasn't even talking about football. He was talking about listening to Bob Marley with his friends. JK.

     

    The statement is so oddly worded that I don't even know what to make of it. If he is saying he loves the sound of hitting the QB....well what defender wouldn't? If he is saying he likes the sound they make after causing an injury then that's twisted. BTW - I don't know if Aldon has ever injured a player (other than their pride).

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